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1 minute ago, Marty Backe said:

I just checked mine (and a couple of other wheels too). It's out of round by maybe 3/64" ( a bit shy of 1/16-inch). Your's certainly is worse.

I think I would do what was already suggested above. Deflate the tire and work it with your hands to seat the tire better.

 Thought I already did that. Could someone be a little more Pacific and less Atlantic on how to do that? :-) 

 

 Keep in mind I’m not very bright. LOL 

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8 minutes ago, Patton250 said:

 Thought I already did that. Could someone be a little more Pacific and less Atlantic on how to do that? :-) 

 

 Keep in mind I’m not very bright. LOL 

I've never had to do this myself so I can't offer any practical advice beyond what I've read here. Good luck.

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30 minutes ago, Patton250 said:

 Thought I already did that. Could someone be a little more Pacific and less Atlantic on how to do that? :-) 

 

 Keep in mind I’m not very bright. LOL 

I've never had to do this with any EUC of mine, but had my share of fidgeting with bicycle tires. Others have already posted great advise earlier so re-read that first of all, but I'll try to add something, assuming your rim is actually OK and not deformed. First off, you have the rim, the tube and the tire. The tube should be equally distributed all along the rim (i.e. equally stretched all around and not bunched somewhere), and for the tire you want the inwards edges of the tire to be at the same distance from the rim. So the idea of re-seating the tire is to the ensure the latter - let out enough pressure to let you work on moving the tire (a pumped tube will fix the tire to the rim), either by pushing it in towards the rim at places or by pulling it outwards from the rim. In your video you used a visual aide to determine this, this can also work as a guide when you're re-seating the tire.

It could also be that someone bunched up the tube to a significant degree when putting it and the tire on the rim, in which case I don't think you'll be able to do much about it without taking the tire off and redoing it.

Well, my two öre for DIY, and I hope that it helps, but if you can't do it yourself but perhaps there's some knowledgeable bike shop locally that could help you (just based on reading about someone else have a good local shop, I'd never leave my wheel to a bike shop myself..), or your dealer as the last step.

Edit: And as Marty suggested you could try and measuring the rim to see whether there's any obvious deformation there.

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5 minutes ago, Nils said:

I've never had to do this with any EUC of mine, but had my share of fidgeting with bicycle tires. Others have already posted great advise earlier so re-read that first of all, but I'll try to add something, assuming your rim is actually OK and not deformed. First off, you have the rim, the tube and the tire. The tube should be equally distributed all along the rim (i.e. equally stretched all around and not bunched somewhere), and for the tire you want the inwards edges of the tire to be at the same distance from the rim. So the idea of re-seating the tire is to the ensure the latter - let out enough pressure to let you work on moving the tire (a pumped tube will fix the tire to the rim), either by pushing it in towards the rim at places or by pulling it outwards from the rim. In your video you used a visual aide to determine this, this can also work as a guide when you're re-seating the tire.

It could also be that someone bunched up the tube to a significant degree when putting it and the tire on the rim, in which case I don't think you'll be able to do much about it without taking the tire off and redoing it.

Well, my two öre for DIY, and I hope that it helps, but if you can't do it yourself but perhaps there's some knowledgeable bike shop locally that could help you (just based on reading about someone else have a good local shop, I'd never leave my wheel to a bike shop..), or your dealer as the last step.

Edit: And as Marty suggested you could try and measuring the rim to see whether there's any obvious deformation there.

 Tried the whole stretch the tire thing again and it worked pretty good. I basically got rid of about 80% of that gap in the video.  However during my first test ride it still bounces a little.  I’ll try measuring the rim next. 

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1 hour ago, Patton250 said:

 OK here we go. I think after you watch this it’s obvious things are not even. How do I fix this? 

 

 

hmmmmm... definitely out of round, but i dont see any problem with the tire where its seated?? could just be a wonky tire maybe.... you did try 100% deflating it and giving it a squeeze all around then re-inflating it?

edit: didnt see your response.. well thats good if you got rid of 80% of it.. maybe the rim, but maybe youre just sensitive to it and youll get used to it? not much more you can do...

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53 minutes ago, Rywokast said:

hmmmmm... definitely out of round, but i dont see any problem with the tire where its seated?? could just be a wonky tire maybe.... you did try 100% deflating it and giving it a squeeze all around then re-inflating it?

edit: didnt see your response.. well thats good if you got rid of 80% of it.. maybe the rim, but maybe youre just sensitive to it and youll get used to it? not much more you can do...

Yeah.  I’m just a little bummed out because it’s the only wheel I own that does that.  I’m not going to send this to Jason over something like that. I would have no idea how to change the rim out myself. 

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2 minutes ago, Patton250 said:

Yeah.  I’m just a little bummed out because it’s the only wheel I own that does that.  I’m not going to send this to Jason over something like that. I would have no idea how to change the rim out myself. 

i mean if it bothers you that much, and you cant see anything wrong with the rim, you could put on a new tire.. and you cant change the rim, the rim is the motor.. you would literally need to replace the entire motor.. some people have had bends in theirs where they just whacked it back into place

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4 minutes ago, Smoother said:

I can't see the tire/rim relationship changing as you spun the wheel, so it looks like you simply have a wonky tire.  Its possible it will smooth out over the miles.  New tires are often stiff but loosen up as they get used.  Maybe ride it at a lower pressure for a while to "exercise" the rubber.

Tires are made quickly and as cheaply as possible, especially these basic bicycle tires (not specialised racing tires).  So getting a few bad ones is inevitable.

 

 Thanks you guys. I will ride it a lot. I think I only have 60 or 70 miles on it right now anyway. 

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5 minutes ago, Patton250 said:

Sorry if this question is in the wrong place but does the fast charger that works for the Nikola also work for the M Super X MSX? 

84V and 84V yes, 100V and 100V yes

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40 minutes ago, Patton250 said:

 Thanks you guys. I will ride it a lot. I think I only have 60 or 70 miles on it right now anyway. 

Yeah, get back to us after 500-miles :D

13 minutes ago, Patton250 said:

Sorry if this question is in the wrong place but does the fast charger that works for the Nikola also work for the M Super X MSX? 

Yes, everything is interchangeable with 84-volt Gotway wheels.

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2 hours ago, meepmeepmayer said:

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This is interesting... The photos above have a different control board. The installed one doesn’t have the red and white connectors next to the inductor, and the separate board doesn’t have the small blue sister board.

The Nikola control board variations seem like a mess, with zero info provided from Gotway.

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24 minutes ago, mrelwood said:

The Nikola control board variations seem like a mess, with zero info provided from Gotway.

Shocking news! Hold the presses!

Sorry, I'm not making fun of you. Just of Gotway:rolleyes:

We could ask @EcoDrift when they visited the factory. These boards might already be old news.

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15 minutes ago, zenleetech said:

My Nikola is on the way from ewheels, going to be my first wheel. Was excited, now I'm not as optimistic. Was supposed to be shipped out
last week, but Jason said I could wait and they'd put in the new board. This is the last e-mail I received from ewheels. 

'Things didn't quite go as planned... William installed the replacement controller & it blew the voltmeter quite violently, there's scorch marks inside of the shell. As there was just that single Nikola in Tucson, we're going to plan A of sending you out a factory seal Nikola today from LA, will be with you tomorrow.' 

The factory sealed Nikola should be arriving tomorrow, going take it easy and keep you guys updated. 

Why aren't you optimistic? Does the "factory sealed Nikola" not include the updated board?

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4 minutes ago, Marty Backe said:

Why aren't you optimistic? Does the "factory sealed Nikola" not include the updated board?

from that i gathered a NEW factory sealed nikola.. aka one sent to him after the boards were updated... although that time frame doesnt seem to match up unless they expedited the hell out of that batch... anyways, he wouldnt send you one without either having a new board in it.. or including a new board but i would think the former. i could just be misinterpreting it though

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Yes basically I'm hoping the factory sealed one has a new board, if it does I'll be more confidant.
My last email to ewheels asked if I would be getting the new board, as I wasn't sure.

And honestly I don't want the new board if this is what its going to do! 

 

 

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i can guarantee that gotway at least turns them on once before shipping them out lol.. if theres some problem like incorrect wiring or incompatibility it will be obvious, sometimes blatantly as the example youve shown, while turning the wheel on for the first time.. so fingers crossed that at the factory they did at least the absolute bare minimum and turned the wheels on to test if they actually work before shipping out lmao.. im under the impression they dont actually have something on hand to check the boards themselves before they ship out like kingsong or onewheel would.. they just basically haphazardly assemble everything, turn it on, move it back and forth for two seconds then pack it up

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1 minute ago, who_the said:

My brand new Nikola 84v had 0.5 miles on it when I bought it new from @Nevin@Tec-toyz.com. I've now got ~250 miles on it and it's performed flawlessly under harsh usage.

original board?

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