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...and who's willing to wait until spring can possibly get the full package for just €19.99. In the last years the manufacturer granted this discount at the beginning of the bicycle season - presumingly at the last week of March. 

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@Seba I just tried it out, and it works great, and  pretty much offers the whole package (offline maps for my region were free too). Until now I've been using Strava for route recording (when I know where I'm going or am just leisure riding), and Google Maps + Wikiloc for route planning & recording: If I wanted to go to the supermarket taking only small residential roads to avoid main roads, I'd plan the route with Gmaps and then run wikiloc in recording mode, so it would record the route and I could use its navigation function the next time without having to use Gmaps. The downside of this system was that Gmaps is a hassle when navigating: you have to add a ton of waypoints, and every time you reach one you have to unlock your phone and tell it that you want to continue. Adn while wikiloc does offer navigation (if you pay the 4.99€ yearly subscription), there's no audio navigation.

It's great to be able to do everything from the same app, as well as choosing the profile (elevation, type of roads, etc.). Being able to see the route by just hitting the power button is extremely useful, and there's a fantastic route-planning option where you can just select a pre-planned or pre-recorded route and reverse the order (it was very useful for getting back home after shopping :efee612b4b:). I've also found the average and max. speeds to be much more precise than in Strava (which was giving me max. speeds of up to 58 km/h on my V8 :efee612b4b:).

The only drawbacks I've found so far are the inability to change maps (it only uses OpenStreetMaps; in Strava it's only Google, but you can choose "normal", terrain or satellite), and the elevation info is fairly off. All the same, great app, it will definitely be staying on my phone and will surely come in handy! Thanks for sharing!

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22 minutes ago, Seba said:

I will ask Komoot developers for some improvements and new features. At least they would allow to define "custom" routing options. This is the only feature I really miss: to explicitly define what types of roads/surfaces should be used and in which order. So you can save it as named personal preference and use in future.

I haven't seen a satellite mapping feature like Google's. Zoom-in, and street level features in satellite mode would provide excellent intelligence about environment and terrain features, before taking a route. A Waze-like route intelligence feature that adds to the body of knowledge about unique route features and hazards. For example,  intelligence regarding paved surface conditions that is user reported so that known routes stay updated at no cost Komoot. Unknown routes will become known routes over time as the user base populates. The feature would tell us which paved surfaces are rough or smooth and provide pothole location reports.

When the pothole is repaired the user will note with a pothole repaired report in the form of a simple icon that makes the pothole disappear off the Komoot map. Although I don't do a bunch of riding over off-road surfaces, I imagine that the reports would be very useful to riders that do venture off the beaten path. 

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Google Maps are available when planning trip in web browser - just select small button in the upper right corner of the Komoot map:

komoot_maps.thumb.jpg.dca4689abe917c2ae57be7b5c9fa9571.jpg

HINT - press "M" to temporarily hide your track to see map objects behind. This is especially useful when working with aerial Google Map.

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32 minutes ago, Seba said:

Google Maps are available when planning trip in web browser - just select small button in the upper right corner of the Komoot map:

komoot_maps.thumb.jpg.dca4689abe917c2ae57be7b5c9fa9571.jpg

HINT - press "M" to temporarily hide your track to see map objects behind. This is especially useful when working with aerial Google Map.

Thanks, dude. Now for the Waze features. Since Google now owns Waze it should be an easy play for Komoot. 

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20 minutes ago, Lutalo said:

Thanks, dude. Now for the Waze features. Since Google now owns Waze it should be an easy play for Komoot. 

I'm afraid Komoot won't be able to use Waze, because they only rely on OpenStreetMap data for route planning. Google Maps is used just for visualization. However, they could implement Waze-like features by themselves. Sadly, I've searched their "ideas database" and it seems they are not too keen to introduce new ideas :(

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@Seba by the way, that google satellite feature must be PC-only. I couldn't find it on my mobile app :)

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Just now, Lutalo said:

@Seba by the way, that google satellite feature must be PC-only. I couldn't find it on my mobile app :)

It only works when accessing the Komoot website from your web browser. I plan my routes on my computer, ahead of time (much easier than on the phone), but tt would definitely be a great addition to the mobile app in terms of route planning on-the-go

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2 hours ago, Seba said:

I'm afraid Komoot won't be able to use Waze, because they only rely on OpenStreetMap data for route planning. Google Maps is used just for visualization. However, they could implement Waze-like features by themselves. Sadly, I've searched their "ideas database" and it seems they are not too keen to introduce new ideas :(

Be nice if they could just use Waze because implementing Waze-like features in-house will obviously require time and resources that adapting an already existing platform wouldn't.

Hey. but, it is what it is. It's a great tool that I just used to plan a group ride. I actually get a sort of kick out of going to war with the route customization features 😉👍

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4 minutes ago, travsformation said:

It only works when accessing the Komoot website from your web browser. I plan my routes on my computer, ahead of time (much easier than on the phone), but tt would definitely be a great addition to the mobile app in terms of route planning on-the-go

I would love that feature on the mobile app. I would also like to see a downloadable, and shareable in-app bird's-eye route map screen shot function. Or, is that already a PC/webview only function too :D:D:D

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23 minutes ago, Lutalo said:

I would love that feature on the mobile app. I would also like to see a downloadable, and shareable in-app bird's-eye route map screen shot function. Or, is that already a PC/webview only function too :D:D:D

There is a very nice way to create bird's eye view of a route planned with Komoot :) In fact you can visualize any route planned/recorded. And results can be much, much better than Relive. You just need Google Earth. I've even planned to make a "how to" tutorial, just give me some time B) 

You can just review your planned route or make a video like the one below. It's a 7th day of my trip across Poland, planned with Komoot and visualized with Google Earth. Overlay and final editing made with Adobe Premiere.

 

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25 minutes ago, Seba said:

There is a very nice way to create bird's eye view of a route planned with Komoot :) In fact you can visualize any route planned/recorded. And results can be much, much better than Relive. You just need Google Earth. I've even planned to make a "how to" tutorial, just give me some time B) 

You can just review your planned route or make a video like the one below. It's a 7th day of my trip across Poland, planned with Komoot and visualized with Google Earth. Overlay and final editing made with Adobe Premiere.

 

Figures. I am too addicted to my mobile :D

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Just now, Seba said:

There is a very nice way to create bird's eye view of a route planned with Komoot :) In fact you can visualize any route planned/recorded. And results can be much, much better than Relive. You just need Google Earth. I've even planned to make a "how to" tutorial, just give me some time B) 

You can just review your planned route or make a video like the one below. It's a 7th day of my trip across Poland, planned with Komoot and visualized with Google Earth. Overlay and final editing made with Adobe Premiere.

  

Wow, that looks awesome! I've been editing all my Relives with Premiere, playing with the zoom (keyframe-based), changing the soundtrack, etc., but it still doesn't look anywhere near as good as this! Great video!

Am guessing you exported the .gpx and imported it to Google Earth? Have never tried to "relive" a route in G.Earth, but will look into it, love the results you got! (and Relive's options are fairly limited, especially if you consider the suscription price of the premium plan...more than Netflix!). Can you play with zoom (or rather altitude) and camera angle in "real-time", as you record? Thought I'd try to go to bed early today, but it looks like I've found a new excuse (aka obsession) to stay up late :efee612b4b: (haven't done any screen recording since my gaming days with FRAPS on Windows XP :efee612b4b:)

Will be looking forward to your tutorial! Even if I figure it out myself, I'm sure there'll be a lot to learn from it! You've got a new subscriber! (And damn whoever gave your video a f*cking downvote!)

 

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@Seba I've managed to successfully import gpx files from Komoot and Strava into G. Earth, and replay the trip. Now I'm playing around with the settings to get the speed, camera tilt and camera range to my liking. :D The only thing I can't seem to get right is the camera range; no matter how many tims I change it, when I replay the trip, the value remains unchanged. Odd...

Will be looking forward to your tutorial! :thumbup:

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On 1/10/2019 at 11:16 AM, Seba said:

Google Maps are available when planning trip in web browser - just select small button in the upper right corner of the Komoot map:

komoot_maps.thumb.jpg.dca4689abe917c2ae57be7b5c9fa9571.jpg

HINT - press "M" to temporarily hide your track to see map objects behind. This is especially useful when working with aerial Google Map.

I will be glad when this feature is available on the mobile app. 

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On 11/2/2018 at 9:30 AM, Borg666 said:

...and who's willing to wait until spring can possibly get the full package for just €19.99. In the last years the manufacturer granted this discount at the beginning of the bicycle season - presumingly at the last week of March. 

BTW, regarding the discount price of €19.99 for the komoot complete package, you should check this page(s) in intervalls:

https://www.komoot.com/product/complete-package

https://www.komoot.de/product/complete-package

I'm expecting the next €19.99 offer at end of March and maybe again at end of May. 

Cheers. 

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The free version of Komoot has been my go-to route planner and navigator for a few years. Never needed more features to the free version, great app! I do all planning directly on iOS.

I love the most to ride on easy forest paths and pathways, but they are often marked accessible only by hiking or mountain biking. Unfortunately, those categories often include sections that are not ridable on an EUC. Luckily going back for an alternate route with an EUC is usually equally fun!

Since Komoot relies on the OpenMaps for navigational data, fixes to actual mistakes in the map data can be supplied by anyone. Changes in the map data should appear in Komoot in a few weeks.

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4 hours ago, Joshua Sherman said:

I travel a lot to different parts of the country for work and this application seems useful to me, thanks!

I love it. I use it a lot. Although, I think that it could use more features on the mobile app; satellite mapping. Community based information about the routes like hazardous potholes, wet mud for offroad, dangerous intersection, regulations that might affect portions of the route, compass, Etc. Some of the features I mentioned are present on the PC version, but not the mobile app. 

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On 2/4/2019 at 2:10 AM, Borg666 said:

BTW, regarding the discount price of €19.99 for the komoot complete package, you should check this page(s) in intervalls:

https://www.komoot.com/product/complete-package

https://www.komoot.de/product/complete-package

I'm expecting the next €19.99 offer at end of March and maybe again at end of May. 

Cheers. 

Hello Folks, 

FYI, the anounced discount price €19,99 is currently availiable - until 23rd April. Check links above. 

Komoot App is highly recommended, still my favorite. 

Cheers, Borg 

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