ir_fuel Posted October 14, 2018 Posted October 14, 2018 I really got annoyed by the fact that I couldn't look straight behind me. Since I am not an owl I can't turn my head 180 degrees, and just trying to look back as far as possible while going 20mph is not easy nor comfortable nor will you have the time to observe how stuff moves. So I wanted a rear-view mirror. Since I hate the mirror-attached-to-helmet look ( sorry @Marty Backe ) I found another solution on Amazon. Got to test it for the first time yesterday and it works really well! As we drive/ride on the right hand side of the street here I installed it on the left. It's very discreet, easy to use, can worn under a motorcycle jacket and over wrist protection and it's not expensive. I just leave it open when I ride and when I'm done close it and it's not in the way. 2 Quote
Marty Backe Posted October 14, 2018 Posted October 14, 2018 Yeah, some of us have posted similar setups, including me When I'm riding with just wrist guards, I use a pair that have a mirror mounted like yours. The helmet mirror is far superior though because you don't have to be waving your hand about to see what's happening behind you. 1 Quote
Gaz Bon Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 Vibration and head movment cant see anything with the helmet mirror so i too have a wrist mounted mirror works a treat 1 Quote
Marty Backe Posted October 15, 2018 Posted October 15, 2018 59 minutes ago, Gaz Bon said: Vibration and head movment cant see anything with the helmet mirror so i too have a wrist mounted mirror works a treat Yes, there can be a lot of vibration in the mirror. But for me, the point of having a mirror is to know whether a car or bicyclist is approaching from behind. For that, the helmet mounted mirror works great. I don't really need to know whether the car is a Ford or Chevy. 3 Quote
Kristof Willen Posted October 16, 2018 Posted October 16, 2018 I use the same solution. Only drawback is that the mirror is curved, so everything appears quite small. Sometimes I hear the traffic more early than I see it in the mirror. But surely works better than looking back all the time ! 1 Quote
ir_fuel Posted December 2, 2018 Author Posted December 2, 2018 And you can keep your speed up, just raise your arm have a quick glance and continue. Otherwise it's always a bit of a hassle checking out behind you. Especially if you want to make a left-hand turn. Quote
baracuda50 Posted December 10, 2018 Posted December 10, 2018 On 10/14/2018 at 11:57 PM, ir_fuel said: I really got annoyed by the fact that I couldn't look straight behind me. Since I am not an owl I can't turn my head 180 degrees, and just trying to look back as far as possible while going 20mph is not easy nor comfortable nor will you have the time to observe how stuff moves. So I wanted a rear-view mirror. Since I hate the mirror-attached-to-helmet look ( sorry @Marty Backe ) I found another solution on Amazon. Got to test it for the first time yesterday and it works really well! As we drive/ride on the right hand side of the street here I installed it on the left. It's very discreet, easy to use, can worn under a motorcycle jacket and over wrist protection and it's not expensive. I just leave it open when I ride and when I'm done close it and it's not in the way. Perfect solution. Can you share the Amazon link please. I couldn't find it. Quote
Gaz Bon Posted December 22, 2018 Posted December 22, 2018 This is a mirror I used and adapted to fit helmet no vibration problems and easily adjustable 1 Quote
ir_fuel Posted March 7, 2019 Author Posted March 7, 2019 On 12/10/2018 at 9:34 PM, baracuda50 said: Perfect solution. Can you share the Amazon link please. I couldn't find it. https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B07BBJS2XB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Quote
LanghamP Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 On 10/14/2018 at 5:29 PM, Marty Backe said: Yeah, some of us have posted similar setups, including me When I'm riding with just wrist guards, I use a pair that have a mirror mounted like yours. The helmet mirror is far superior though because you don't have to be waving your hand about to see what's happening behind you. Has a mirror ever been useful for when a driver comes from behind you? Like has it actually ever gotten you out of a crash? In the same vein, has a mirror ever gotten you into trouble? For example, looking at it instead of the pit in front of you? 1 Quote
RockyTop Posted March 8, 2019 Posted March 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, LanghamP said: Has a mirror ever been useful for when a driver comes from behind you? Like has it actually ever gotten you out of a crash? Yes. It shows me when I can change lanes and turn left. It also shows me when not to make unpredictable movements. 1 Quote
Popular Post Marty Backe Posted March 8, 2019 Popular Post Posted March 8, 2019 7 hours ago, LanghamP said: Has a mirror ever been useful for when a driver comes from behind you? Like has it actually ever gotten you out of a crash? In the same vein, has a mirror ever gotten you into trouble? For example, looking at it instead of the pit in front of you? I use my helmet mirror all the time. It's all about situational awareness. I know when I can cross lanes without having to turn my head. Or I know when I should scoot over to the side of the shoulder because a vehicle or truck is getting closer than I'd like. And a few times it helped me to stop at an intersection because I could see a car fast approaching to do a right turn in front of me and cut me off. 5 Quote
ir_fuel Posted March 9, 2019 Author Posted March 9, 2019 8 hours ago, LanghamP said: Has a mirror ever been useful for when a driver comes from behind you? Like has it actually ever gotten you out of a crash? In the same vein, has a mirror ever gotten you into trouble? For example, looking at it instead of the pit in front of you? 100% sure it's a lot more comfortable for me. Instead of having to turn my head to try and look behind I can comfortably look around without going off my trajectory or taking too long to have a look. And especially for left hand crossing I can look if I can safely move over to the middle of the road before turning. That was just a lot more stressful without. The advantage of having it on the wrist is I can move it around to look where I want. It's like in a car. Sure you can drive a car without rear view mirrors, but it's a lot more comfortable with them. 1 1 Quote
Werner Posted March 17, 2019 Posted March 17, 2019 (edited) I own this one and it works quite well. I'm happy with it. But, as said before, because of the radius of the mirror, cars appear late and small. But it works enough and can be adjusted just as I want it to be. Edited March 17, 2019 by Werner 1 Quote
mrelwood Posted March 18, 2019 Posted March 18, 2019 On 12/22/2018 at 11:52 AM, Gaz Bon said: This is a mirror I used and adapted to fit helmet no vibration problems and easily adjustable I have the exact same mirror on the visor of my helmet. A key benefit on a helmet mirror is that you are aware of the vehicles behind you all the time, not just when you decide to look. Getting a complete picture of the surroundings behind you takes a lot less time when you’ve already had the image in your view. And moving just the eyes is also faster and more automatic than the hand. But a wrist mounted one is of course a whole lot better than nothing. 2 Quote
Darrell Wesh Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) One of the few detriments of wearing full face helmets is the obstruction of peripheral vision. Especially if you top it with goggles, say goodbye to a good bit of vision. I had the wrist mounted option but it’s not quick enough as turning your head because you need to position your arm and/or head just right to see where you want to. I ended up returning it as it wasn’t worth the hassle and ended up making my rearward checks too slow at speed. I assume the mounted to helmet mirror is phenomenal, but never tried it as I don’t wear helmets. It was either a full face helmet or nothing and from experience cars give me much more room when I’m helmet less (going hand in hand with research demonstrated on cyclists). My biggest fear is falling and getting run over, not falling and getting my chin banged up. That is also one of the reasons why slaloming is important: it makes drivers think you’re going to fall at any second and they back WAY off 😄 Edited March 19, 2019 by Darrell Wesh 2 1 Quote
Popular Post Marty Backe Posted March 19, 2019 Popular Post Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Darrell Wesh said: One of the few detriments of wearing full face helmets is the obstruction of peripheral vision. Especially if you top it with goggles, say goodbye to a good bit of vision. I had the wrist mounted option but it’s not quick enough as turning your head because you need to position your arm and/or head just right to see where you want to. I ended up returning it as it wasn’t worth the hassle and ended up making my rearward checks too slow at speed. I assume the mounted to helmet mirror is phenomenal, but never tried it as I don’t wear helmets. It was either a full face helmet or nothing and from experience cars give me much more room when I’m helmet less (going hand in hand with research demonstrated on cyclists). My biggest fear is falling and getting run over, not falling and getting my chin banged up. That is also one of the reasons why slaloming is important: it makes drivers think you’re going to fall at any second and they back WAY off 😄 I do want to say that some helmets have fantastic visibility. The Scorpion that I'm currently wearing most of the time has exceptional peripheral vision - feels like I don't even have a helmet on, in terms of the vision. If you ever do start wearing helmets you'll become dependent on the helmet mounted mirror once you start using it. The situational awareness that you gain from the little mirror is great. I was pulled over by a cop once who suggested to me that I should not be slaloming like I was because the traffic behind me was being "disturbed". He felt that they were being too cautious around me since I looked "erratic" on my wheel Sometimes you just can't win Edited March 19, 2019 by Marty Backe 4 Quote
Darrell Wesh Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Marty Backe said: I do want to say that some helmets have fantastic visibility. The Scorpion that I'm currently wearing most of the time has exceptional peripheral vision - feels like I don't even have a helmet on, in terms of the vision. If you ever do start wearing helmets you'll become dependent on the helmet mounted mirror once you start using it. The situational awareness that you gain from the little mirror is great. I was pulled over by a cop once who suggested to me that I should not be slaloming like I was because the traffic behind me was being "disturbed". He felt that they were being too cautious around me since I looked "erratic" on my wheel Sometimes you just can't win Until EUC’s are commonplace(which I don’t think so) this “effect” is exactly what I’m talking about. Marty you should coin a phrase for it. On 18” wheels with the slower reaction of the wheel, slaloming looks like you’re about to fall and this is great for the idiot car tailgating to alert them they might wanna slow down because of the fragile human being on one wheel in front of you. Edited March 19, 2019 by Darrell Wesh 1 Quote
Popular Post who_the Posted March 19, 2019 Popular Post Posted March 19, 2019 On 3/8/2019 at 2:51 PM, Marty Backe said: It's all about situational awareness. Yup this. Can't let anything sneak up on you. Boresighting can be dangerous. 28 minutes ago, Marty Backe said: I was pulled over by a cop once who suggested to me that I should not be slaloming like I was because the traffic behind me was being "disturbed". Ironically they call it "calming" when you slow down traffic up here LOL. On our larger group rides we've had cops thank us for slowing down traffic. We'll ride right around the limit (25 mph unless otherwise marked) here in San Francisco and cops will tell us, "glad you guys are doing the speed limit because nobody else is." 5 Quote
Smoother Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 4 hours ago, Marty Backe said: He felt that they were being too cautious around me since I looked "erratic" on my wheel Sometimes you just can't win Its a shame you didn't ask him why he thought "too cautious" traffic was a bad thing, and did he know how many people are killed by motor vehicles every year in the US, presumably by drivers not being cautious enough. 1 Quote
Popular Post Marty Backe Posted March 19, 2019 Popular Post Posted March 19, 2019 58 minutes ago, Smoother said: Its a shame you didn't ask him why he thought "too cautious" traffic was a bad thing, and did he know how many people are killed by motor vehicles every year in the US, presumably by drivers not being cautious enough. Generally, the last thing I want to do is have any kind of debate with the Police. It's all "Yes Sir", "Will Do", "Thank you", etc. 3 2 Quote
Marty Backe Posted March 19, 2019 Posted March 19, 2019 5 hours ago, Darrell Wesh said: Until EUC’s are commonplace(which I don’t think so) this “effect” is exactly what I’m talking about. Marty you should coin a phrase for it. On 18” wheels with the slower reaction of the wheel, slaloming looks like you’re about to fall and this is great for the idiot car tailgating to alert them they might wanna slow down because of the fragile human being on one wheel in front of you. I admire the benefit of the doubt that you give humanity. Unfortunately there are a-holes who would just as well "almost clip you" just because. Haven't we all been passed by cars which did not move over at all even though they had plenty of room to do so? That's what I like about the mirror. I can see if an upcoming car is not approaching with a wide berth, and in those cases I slow down a pit and move as far right as possible. Doesn't happen a lot, but it does. 2 Quote
Guest PogArt Artur Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 On 3/8/2019 at 10:51 PM, Marty Backe said: I use my helmet mirror all the time. It's all about situational awareness. I know when I can cross lanes without having to turn my head. Or I know when I should scoot over to the side of the shoulder because a vehicle or truck is getting closer than I'd like. And a few times it helped me to stop at an intersection because I could see a car fast approaching to do a right turn in front of me and cut me off. Could you please provide any link,where I could purchase the mirror please? I went through Amazon and eBay, but can't find any self-adhesive mirror? Unless it's DIY? Cheers. Quote
Marty Backe Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 Just now, PogArt Artur said: Could you please provide any link,where I could purchase the mirror please? I went through Amazon and eBay, but can't find any self-adhesive mirror? Unless it's DIY? Cheers. Look at one of my most recent YouTube videos. In the Description are links to everything I use including this mirror. 1 Quote
Guest PogArt Artur Posted March 31, 2019 Posted March 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, Marty Backe said: Look at one of my most recent YouTube videos. In the Description are links to everything I use including this mirror. Cheers Marty! Quote
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