Gerri Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Hello Wheelies, I want to calibrate my Ninebot Z 10 to a desired tilt angle. If I tilt the wheel forward while calibrating, it always calibrates back! Does anyone know a solution? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziiten Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) At least @Marty Backe has had similar experiences; apparently it cannot be done to a specific angle, rather the wheel autocalibrates to level. Maybe that could be fixed with a firmware update, if they decide that's what they want to offer to the user. Edited September 20, 2018 by Ziiten 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerri Posted September 20, 2018 Author Share Posted September 20, 2018 Thanks for the info, then I'm not the only one who has stated that! It would be appropriate to integrate this into the app. My other wheels, I have all set with a tilt angle forward. Then my feet are just more relaxed.Now the angle of inclination is set so that the pedals are tilted a little backwards. This is not good for a downhill ride, because you have to lean back extremely to not get faster! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Gerri said: Hello Wheelies, I want to calibrate my Ninebot Z 10 to a desired tilt angle. If I tilt the wheel forward while calibrating, it always calibrates back! Does anyone know a solution? As already stated, the user cannot set the pedal angle on the Z10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotciv Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Everyone should provide feedback via the app every time the app is updated or a new firmware is released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve454 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) This probably won't work on the Z10, with it's completely new control board, but it might be interesting for someone to try the manual calibration for the E+. Who knows, maybe Ninebot left that in the new wheel. But with the much higher power and weight of the Z10, I would be extremely careful to hold it strongly while the tire is spinning up. And it should go without saying, don't try to use plastic glasses for supports. I would use bricks or concrete blocks. Edited September 20, 2018 by steve454 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gerri Posted September 21, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2018 Great thank you ! You were right, it worked! I put the Z10 on jam jars, measured it with a spirit level that it just stands, turned it on, and just turned it briefly and then stopped immediately. Then it flashed red. Then I pressed the button for 4 seconds and it was callibriert and then beeped once. Then I measured with a spirit level.So the calibration function in the app does not seem to work yet, also no roll angle and no tilt angle are displayed !@Marty Backe if you want, you can also try to calibrate your Z10 with this method ! 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Gerri said: Great thank you ! You were right, it worked! I put the Z10 on jam jars, measured it with a spirit level that it just stands, turned it on, and just turned it briefly and then stopped immediately. Then it flashed red. Then I pressed the button for 4 seconds and it was callibriert and then beeped once. Then I measured with a spirit level.So the calibration function in the app does not seem to work yet, also no roll angle and no tilt angle are displayed !@Marty Backe if you want, you can also try to calibrate your Z10 with this method ! Unfortunately this process is not at all practical where I actually need to calibrate the wheel, and that's on the trails. It's all a little bit on the dangerous side. But thanks for the tip. Edited September 21, 2018 by Marty Backe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerri Posted September 21, 2018 Author Share Posted September 21, 2018 yes, you are right, just in between, on the trail, you can not do the calibration so it would be with the app, as it is intended also more practical. But it looks like the app does not seem ready yet. Maybe this feature will be available in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrovertigo Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Need to bump this for some help please? I have had my Z10 for about a month now, and it didn't occur to me to check how level the footplates are, and they are quite a bit out. But using the calibration option in the app doesn't help at all. Also, I see from above it being mentioned that the app isn't reading roll and pitch angles and that is from almost a year ago, and the same applies.....no pitch or roll angle are measured in the app. Yet I have seen videos online of the other Ninebot unicycles being read in real-time. Can anyone help? I'm nervous to try that other manual option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
who_the Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Retrovertigo said: Can anyone help? I'm nervous to try that other manual option. "Manual" option is the only way. And it *does* work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotciv Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Retrovertigo said: Can anyone help? I'm nervous to try that other manual option. What version firmware do you have? I have 1.07 and I was able to calibrate using the app and it keeps the pedal angle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrovertigo Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Rotciv said: What version firmware do you have? I have 1.07 and I was able to calibrate using the app and it keeps the pedal angle Yeah same version here, 1.07. Just tried wheelog app as well, and that doesn't show pitch or roll angles either. They just remain at zero. @who_theYep, decided to give it a go balanced on two small speaker cabinets. It's bang on now What I'd like to do, is build a stand that has the ability to be tilted forward and backward so that I can calibrate it slightly leaning forward I think. May be beyond my skill level though. Edited August 27, 2019 by Retrovertigo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotciv Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 45 minutes ago, Retrovertigo said: Yeah same version here, 1.07. Just tried wheelog app as well, and that doesn't show pitch or roll angles either. They just remain at zero. The One Z doesn’t provide the pitch and roll angle. Not sure if this is a limitation in the controller or the app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
who_the Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Retrovertigo said: What I'd like to do, is build a stand that has the ability to be tilted forward and backward so that I can calibrate it slightly leaning forward I think. Wise man indeed. I run my wheel 6-8 degrees forward. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 26 minutes ago, who_the said: Wise man indeed. I run my wheel 6-8 degrees forward. This explains why you ride so fast But seriously, you ride with >5 degrees tilt? Wow. When mine is tipped forward by just a couple of degrees, by accident, I feel like I'm going to slip off the wheel. Fascinating that you can ride all the time like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 5 hours ago, who_the said: "Manual" option is the only way. And it *does* work. Why do i feel i got to try this even if i don't have a problem 🤪 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PogArt Artur Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 15 minutes ago, stephen said: Why do i feel i got to try this even if i don't have a problem 🤪 I'v calibrated my Z two times already with the above method 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, PogArt Artur said: I'v calibrated my Z two times already with the above method 😁 Why did you have to do it second time did it loose it's calibration or you was just making sure 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PogArt Artur Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) 38 minutes ago, stephen said: Why did you have to do it second time did it loose it's calibration or you was just making sure 🤔 You see, at first time I wasn't sure how to do it properly @stephen , so even if I corrected the original bad tilt, I was full of doubts,if I did it precisely ... I repeated it second time then, putting more attention to the side to side levelling. Edited August 27, 2019 by PogArt Artur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrovertigo Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Even now, just going down my hallway, it feels like a completely different beast. I reckon it was tilted back about 5 degrees, possibly slightly more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PogArt Artur Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 17 minutes ago, Retrovertigo said: Even now, just going down my hallway, it feels like a completely different beast. I reckon it was tilted back about 5 degrees, possibly slightly more. My was tilted 4 degrees forward originally. I had adapted to that tilt, but I found it being very odd while going up any incline. Simply because of the pedals front edge, which was nearly touching the surface of the pavement or street... Then I realised it has to be corrected 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrovertigo Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) very Went out before and managed to skip off my wheel practicing my tight turns....didn't drop with a bang or anything, but the wheel span up and the alarm went off. Tested the calibration went I went back inside, and it had gone out very slightly, because of that I assume. Used the app this time, and the app now corrects it to how it had been set using the manual method this morning. So I assume from the factory, my wheel was out of calibration and the app merely wanted to reset it back to that. Now it as been hard reset it seems to know what straight and level is again Edited August 27, 2019 by Retrovertigo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planemo Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 My May 2019 Z10 came with about 3 deg forward tilt. I was staggered how different it felt compared to the previous 1 deg back that my Z6 had. During my initial ride of the Z10 I felt like my feet were going to slip off the front of the pedals when I braked - didn't like it all all. Kudos to being able to ride with 8 deg forward - jeez. I used the manual calibration to set it to zero and have left it at that since but I may try 1 deg back again. Oddly, compared to Marty, I have had neither the Z6 nor the Z10 go out of calibration at any point, even after being dropped. So are we saying that the NB app DOES cater for calibration to the users preference now? Or can it only reset to whatever it came out the factory with? I must admit, the ability to set it at will on the V5F via the Inmotion app is really handy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrovertigo Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) @PlanemoYeah the app seems to calibrate it back to whatever you set it to manually. Which suggests that it lacks something electronically to stop it sensing how level it is. That would fit with it not being able to give real-time readouts of roll or pitch, because it simply doesn't know what they are. It only knows whatever you set it to manually? It definitely isn't an app issue, as wheelog doesn't show roll or pitch either. It must have a very rudimentary gyro system which is why it can go out of calibration for some and not others. Which is staggering really, as I have seen the cheapest Ninebot EUC's have real-time readouts of roll and pitch, so quite why their flagship model doesn't do it is anybody's guess. It would be amazingly handy if I could quickly set angles easily just to test what I prefer. Edited August 27, 2019 by Retrovertigo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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