Unventor Posted June 27, 2019 Author Share Posted June 27, 2019 18 minutes ago, 1748 said: Firmware v1.13 for KS-18L also increase the Bluetooth range for anyone experience unstable connection on current Firmware. Where did you get that info? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icestorm Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) 46 minutes ago, 1748 said: Firmware v1.13 for KS-18L also increase the Bluetooth range for anyone experience unstable connection on current Firmware. I experienced same improvement after upgrade to 1.12 too, but after some time signal dropped to the same low level as before, so I needed to have phone in my back-pocket to keep connection with phone. Today I upgraded to 1.13 and signal is strong again, I’m looking forward if this will persist. Edited June 27, 2019 by Icestorm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniVehje Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 After some riding I can say that the new firmware feels better and more responsive. It’s not quite as peppy as a V8 or other similar size wheels but feels very similar to my old V10F with it’s new firmware. Not bad at all. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimetic Polyalloy Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Thanks for your reports. Did you have to do a recalibration afterwards (i.e. after coming from 1.12)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniVehje Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, Mimetic Polyalloy said: Thanks for your reports. Did you have to do a recalibration afterwards (i.e. after coming from 1.12)? I probably should have done it but I forgot and it didn’t cause any problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US69 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 I am trying to get some more concret numbers about the performance advantage..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unventor Posted June 27, 2019 Author Share Posted June 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Mimetic Polyalloy said: Thanks for your reports. Did you have to do a recalibration afterwards (i.e. after coming from 1.12)? I didn't recalibrate, nor did the the update say it was needed. It stated that at 1.12, and it was absolutely necessary back then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimetic Polyalloy Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) Encouraged by your reports I did the 1.13 upgrade one hours ago . Being frightened by former experience but no issues so far - phew! You are right, calibration wasn´t demanded like in prior versions. Although I checked after upgrading and found a slight misalignment of my wheel. But this may have been there before I think. Anyway I repeated calibration without any hazzle. Now I´m very exited about the pronounced improvements. Maybe tomorrow I will know more if wheather conditions are OK (Having a crazy heatwave this week makes you glue to the tarmac this days! ) Edited June 27, 2019 by Mimetic Polyalloy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker10 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Hmm mine seems to be stuck upgrading the firmware. Android it doesn’t seem to be making any progress, and if I try to move back on the phone it says update in process. How long did it take to update your firmware? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lutalo Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 4 hours ago, Unventor said: Grab some tape to help you limit the wide smile on your face. It feels nothing less than great. Tomorrow project. Just rode 55 miles on V1.12. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker10 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Never mind. I used my iPad and it updated fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mimetic Polyalloy Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) Glad to hear that. My upgrade on Android took some time maybe 8-10 minutes but no interruptions. It might feel very scary what you reported... good to hear you found an other workaround. Edited June 28, 2019 by Mimetic Polyalloy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker10 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 it does seem more responsive. Seems to climb my driveway with less input 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacPara Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Feels good. Very good, actually. Used the iOS version to upgrade without a hitch and recalibrated just for good measure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasenutty Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 There’s a big difference, it feels faster, quicker acceleration and less ratchety motor click feel if that makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul2579 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Anyone else getting a low rhythmic whirring out of what appears to be the control panel area following the update? (Rides nice, though.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasenutty Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Not that I noticed but maybe fan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniVehje Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, Paul2579 said: Anyone else getting a low rhythmic whirring out of what appears to be the control panel area following the update? (Rides nice, though.) I think it’s the fan. I noticed it also. It seems like it’s running all the time now. Might be a bug or maybe it runs hotter now. I also noticed a bug in lights. The tail light sometimes comes in white mode on the back instead of normal red. This happened on the back side while riding forward. Well, at least the ride is better and more responsive now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UniVehje Posted June 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2019 6 hours ago, US69 said: I am trying to get some more concret numbers about the performance advantage..... Please do. I’m very interested in what they actually did and how it’s done. It feels like there’s some sensory magic happening. I would describe it as a feeling that when I lean just a bit the wheel senses it and starts accelerating like with a bigger lean. Like it’s amplifying the lean angle a bit and that gives it a feeling of responsiveness. You don’t need to lean as much to gain same acceleration. I’m trying to persuade my friend not to update his 18XL yet so we can have a direct comparison soon. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyboyEUC Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Tried to update from v1.11 and the progress bar never "progressed". Closed the app after 5 minutes of no response. Might try again tomorrow interested to feel the acceleration. Also, anyone getting random tilt back at low speeds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1748 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 10 hours ago, Unventor said: Where did you get that info? Kingsong Technical Support. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binks00 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 What does the update do for the lighting? I didn't see anything different in the app. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyboyEUC Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Does this mean the with v1.13 the XL can accelerate faster than the MSX? I can only assume it's climbing abilities have increased also (disregarding overheating)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniVehje Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 27 minutes ago, Flyboy10 said: Does this mean the with v1.13 the XL can accelerate faster than the MSX? I can only assume it's climbing abilities have increased also (disregarding overheating)? Acceleration is a bit difficult term because it accelerates as fast as needed to catch your lean. But it is feeling more responsive. Meaning it takes less effort to lean to get fast acceleration. I think 18xl was already feeling more responsive than MSX even before with the smaller diameter tire. Also not known for over heating. But pretty much yes. Also felt easier to go up a very steep incline. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel-Son Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Went for a quick 5 mile ride to get the feel of the 18L before I did the update. After the update I went for a 12 mile ride and yes there is an improvement! It basically feels like I purchased a K&N Performance air filter and premium brake pads for a Toyota Camry. It’s still a Camry, but now it’s has more snap when you accelerate the wheel, and the braking has more bite. The wheel was at version 1.11 before I updated to 1.13. Not sure if everyone experienced what I went thru but as I was updating the wheel, it would cycle thru 75% back down to 0% then maybe 58% drop down to 0%, 35% - 0%, 64% - 0%. It done this maybe 15 times. Towards the end it went to 97% then dropped down to 0%, I was getting frustrated and then it finally went to 100% “update complete”. Took around 15-20 minutes to update. Because I knew I needed to calibrate the wheel after the update, I placed the wheel true level (front and back, side to side) to get the wheel ready for calibration. FYI when you reboot the wheel, it automatically calibrated the wheel. So if you haven’t done the update 1.12 yet like me, it would be best if you level the wheel while it’s updating, and save some time, because it going to auto calibrate after reboot. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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