Atharif Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 They just took out the Hack for the Mini Pro. The Russian says it works, but you can turn the Pro into a coffee-making toaster, who knows. If it fails, you risk throwing it away. Does anyone want to be a guinea pig? https://www.ninebot.run/catalog/uslugi/pereproshivka_ninebot/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Romero Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Only for the foolish. Why mess with a great thing? Went 26 miles today swapping batteries. Works well, rides well. ➰ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atharif Posted June 24, 2018 Author Share Posted June 24, 2018 The brave are always a little foolish. Alexey is known in this world of the Firm Hack in the Ninebot devices, like the M365 that many people carry their modified Firm and the people very happy. I am a smart fool and I wait for a brave fool to try it, but if it works and it is verified that it is well done, I would change it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeRide Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 (edited) I intend to try it as I have extra machines. I bought a programmer for the chip, but been using the ebike more and testing the Elite with little time to dig into this. I'll try to get to testing this. MoreForMini is also offering a new tire with apparently a slightly higher profile (thus circumference) for a little higher top end. It is supposed to be out by early July. Seems they are trying to sell the More4Mini business though, so I have a feeling the parts situation could get a lot worse in a year or two. ps... tried to ride the EUC the other day after a pretty long break and it was like the first time I stepped on one.... I've gone backwards.... very sad. I may have to concentrate on that as I wanted to get a new model. Edited June 24, 2018 by FreeRide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRN76 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 More than 80 devices are sewn. the firmware is completely safe. The run did not fall, you can even drive more. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyYellow Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 I sent them query weeks ago, but never got any reply from them, not even a “no”. Maybe it’s because I’m not in Russia that they can’t practically upgrade my firmware, so they simply decided to ignore it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atharif Posted June 24, 2018 Author Share Posted June 24, 2018 51 minutes ago, MRN76 said: More than 80 devices are sewn. the firmware is completely safe. The run did not fall, you can even drive more. The problem is that the WEB is in Russian, and if not possible buy, I buy and only say me that one person call me for information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRN76 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 The firmware is distributed on a commercial basis. For other countries, only by soldering and providing access to your PC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WEagle95 Posted June 24, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2018 Hi to all mini/Pro riders I surprised, how fast and how far the news about SwallowBot can go. 9 hours ago, Atharif said: ...Alexey is known in this world of the Firm Hack in the Ninebot devices, like the M365 that many people carry their modified Firm and the people very happy... @Atharif, i'm also surprised that you know about my M365 mods. So, you can find a little bit of information about SwallowBot firmware at https://mimod.ru Direct link is https://mimod.ru/en_US/swallowbot-firmware/ Before you make a decision to install this firmware for "brave and a little foolish" you must choose of two options coffee machine or toaster, there is no option for both, sorry A little bit later i'll try to write another post with some technical details regarding pros and cons of modified firmware and the original one. Ride safe! 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeRide Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 i just have to dig out the correct connector to solder to the board and confirm the pinout on the programmer and i can get started. pretty slow on projects these days though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winter Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 (edited) Edited August 18, 2018 by nte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo33 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 (edited) On 6/24/2018 at 8:51 PM, WEagle95 said: i'm also surprised that you know about my M365 mods in France your mods for M365 is very famous... For Mini & Mini Pro, your SwallowBot Firmware, there's really "5) Makes posible now to downgrade or change firmware quick and save without soldering and special programmers." ? it requires to give you the serial number and the iMini ID Edited June 25, 2018 by jojo33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winter Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 (edited) Edited August 18, 2018 by nte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo33 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, nte said: If I'm not mistaken, this is only available if you can meet in person (in Russia) https://mimod.ru/en_US/swallowbot-firmware/ 5) Makes posible now to downgrade or change firmware quick and save without soldering and special programmers. Edited June 25, 2018 by jojo33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo33 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 (edited) Ninebot.run sell a method too but need to send the motherboard... Edited June 25, 2018 by jojo33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeRide Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 42 minutes ago, nte said: Which programmer did you get? J-Link v8? yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winter Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 (edited) Edited August 18, 2018 by nte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WEagle95 Posted June 27, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 27, 2018 Hi again I want to give you some technical details about firmware, as i promised. Let's start with a regular "safe" firmware. Looking at the firmware line of mini/Pro i see only one strategy line: "Let's make a good product at start and then kill it with firmware after one or two years to force the user to buy new model". The other thing is that all products designed with a better characteristics than you will get as a regular user. For example, you can become a "super user" just changing only one condition in firmware settings and get 20 km/h on fully charged battery. It's a regular functionality of firmware not a mod of it. "Safety" of regular firmware is a big question to discuss too. Just an example - critical IRQ handlers. What we must do on a "hard fault" or "watchdog" interrupts in mission critical applications? The common practice is try to switch to some "emergency mode", "alternative control law", save the rider from falling, whatever to save situation... and what ninebot do? - nothing! Just switching all off to save (as they think) hardware. The same story is for losing samples from Hall sensors or any other sensor on the bot. Now some words now about the modded firmware. I was not be able to fix ninebot bugs or add safety to the firmware. It lays out of the modding limitations and tasks for full custom firmware for this device. All I can do now is to unlock the stupid limits of speed and limit the quantity the endless warnings. I tried not exceed reasonable limits of the bot. Also I found that firmware has several different speed limits like warning level, soft limit and hard limit. Only warning and soft limit are changed. The hard limit is still in it's place and has the value of 25km/h. BTW, early firmwares has bigger limit values. That's all for today. Fill free to ask your questions. Ride safe! 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo33 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Hello @WEagle95 thank you very much for your explanations, on your website you have written "5) Makes posible now to downgrade or change firmware quick and save without soldering and special programmers." You propose a method of installation, without welding or programmer, so it's like the old downgrade method of Alexander & Denniss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEagle95 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 26 minutes ago, jojo33 said: Hello @WEagle95 thank you very much for your explanations, on your website you have written "5) Makes posible now to downgrade or change firmware quick and save without soldering and special programmers." You propose a method of installation, without welding or programmer, so it's like the old downgrade method of Alexander & Denniss? Hi, @jojo33 No, everithing can be done via special android app and bluetooth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo33 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) 54 minutes ago, WEagle95 said: Hi, @jojo33 No, everithing can be done via special android app and bluetooth. ok thanks ! Very great ! ? It's really good, congrats for your great work ! yes i have another question, how about the "real" speed? You know Ninebot app lying on speed data when we hit a top speed at 18kmh in reality it's 16/17kmh, what about your app? is speed data more honest and reliable than Ninebot's? Have you compared these speed data (average speed, cruising speed, maximum speed) with another bike running application, for example? Edited June 27, 2018 by jojo33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEagle95 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 31 minutes ago, jojo33 said: yes i have another question, how about the "real" speed? You know Ninebot app lying on speed data when we hit a top speed at 18kmh in reality it's 16/17kmh, what about your app? is speed data more honest and reliable than Ninebot's? Have you compared these speed data (average speed, cruising speed, maximum speed) with another bike running application, for example? Yes, i know that ninebot app lyes with a speed values. All numbers, that i mention in my posts is from applicaton. The "real" speed will be smaller. My app do not shows the speed or any othe parameters. It's only a flashing tool. Firmware is still compatible with Ninebot mobile application. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zugu Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 On Thursday, June 28, 2018 at 12:37 AM, WEagle95 said: ...... My app do not shows the speed or any othe parameters. It's a flashing tool. Firmware is still compatible with Ni nebot mobile application. Great! Thamks Thanks But please add either an option in the app to backup the firmware loaded on the machine before to flash it, if the user eish wish to save it to store or rollbacks Thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRN76 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 5 hours ago, zugu said: Great! Thamks Thanks But please add either an option in the app to backup the firmware loaded on the machine before to flash it, if the user eish wish to save it to store or rollbacks Thanks Through this application, you can return to the stock firmware. Through this application, you can return to the stock firmware. The stitched device behaves more safely and to go on it more comfortably 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEagle95 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 5 hours ago, zugu said: Thanks But please add either an option in the app to backup the firmware loaded on the machine before to flash it, if the user eish wish to save it to store or rollbacks Thanks Download installed firmware is not posible by security reasons. But i have most of ogriginal firmwares in my base and it is posible to install it back, replacing modded firmware. Also i can save your bot configuration and activation status. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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