Esper Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Now that electric motors are becoming more powerful and that the evolution of batteries is on the horizon electric motorcycles will be a growing trend. Motorcycles themselves are already highly gas efficient and their electric counterparts are not currently in a position to overtake them. But maybe after a few technological breakthroughs it will be a good investment. Here is one of the few websites that have high speed 70 mph capable motorcycles. http://www.zeromotorcycles.com Check it out if you're interested. I'll post more if people want to see it or if i happen to come across something with outrageous specs like >250 miles per charge at 60 mph with peaks of 90 mph. I bet its possible, but god damn, it would cost a lot of money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARPed1701D Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 (edited) My larger engine motorbikes weren't actually that much more efficient than my car that had double the engine capacity. They weren't fuel injected though. Also, while they may use less gas they are generally much more polluting than a car due to the lack of bulky emission reduction equipment such as EGR systems and catalytic converters. Someone at my work just got an electric moped. I don't know much about it but it looks cool, is quiet, and doesn't stink! Edited September 8, 2018 by WARPed1701D 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayRay Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, WARPed1701D said: Someone at my work just got an electric moped. I don't know much about it but it looks cool, is quiet, and doesn't stink! Action Wheelsport in St. Petersburg, FL. carry GenZe e-Scooters. These are premium e-scooters meant to compete with high-end 50cc mopeds. Similarly, these are limited to 30mph to keep them street legal without requiring a motorcycle license. If I weren't concerned about the speed limitation, I might have considered buying... (Also, a bit pricey with all the options). ? Edited June 23, 2018 by RayRay and I have a moto license. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARPed1701D Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 13 minutes ago, RayRay said: Action Wheelsport in St. Petersburg, FL. carry GenZe e-Scooters. These are premium e-scooters meant to compete with high-end 50cc mopeds. Similarly, these are limited to 30mph to keep them street legal without requiring a motorcycle license. If I weren't concerned about the speed limitation, I might have considered buying... (Also, a bit pricey with all the options). ? That looks about right. Especially the large open storage box behind the seat. I'll have to take a closer look next time she rides it. There are a lot of mopeds around these parts. Based on your comment about skirting licensing I wonder if it is because there are so many stoners and drunks in the area and they all lost their licenses (the lady at work is not one of them)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayRay Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Just now, WARPed1701D said: There are a lot of mopeds around these parts. Based on your comment about skirting licensing I wonder if it is because there are so many stoners and drunks in the area and they all lost their licenses (the lady at work is not one of them)! DUI Scooter? (Locals may have coined the phrase...) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayRay Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 (edited) Here's another e-moto option (scooter or minibike category) that people on this forum might find interesting... California Scooter Company is planning to import an electric 'motorcycle' called City Slicker. (Nothing special, but the price seems competitive.) Edited July 30, 2018 by RayRay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunka Hunka Burning Love Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 (edited) I think it would be cool to see what sort of electrocycle Tesla Motors could come up with. Imagine autopilot on an electric motorcycle! Edited July 30, 2018 by Hunka Hunka Burning Love 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esper Posted July 30, 2018 Author Share Posted July 30, 2018 10 hours ago, Hunka Hunka Burning Love said: I think it would be cool to see what sort of electrocycle Tesla Motors could come up with. Imagine autopilot on an electric motorcycle! If they did that, they would need to create a self balancing system for the bike. Imagine not having the bike fall over, ever, and the lean to turn would be automatic and safer. And the bikes could be named, Tesla Fireball. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunka Hunka Burning Love Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) $2500-$2800 gets you an entire electric motorcycle. https://www.cscmotorcycles.com/New-Inventory-2019-CSC-Motorcycles-Motorcycle-Scooter-City-Slicker-Azusa--5652551 EDIT: Ohh I see @RayRay already mentioned this one above a while ago... whoops! The first guy also rides EUCs! Man, that learning process brings back memories! Unfortunately! Edited December 19, 2018 by Hunka Hunka Burning Love 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyTop Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 That seems like a great deal for $2,800 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunka Hunka Burning Love Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) Too bad it wasn’t faster like a Dualtron. The second guy was able to ride to work on his, but it looked like the bike was a bit underpowered up hills only reaching about 35 mph? Top speed was about 47 mph or so. It’s weird though how much more “wheel” you can get in that price range. I guess our batteries are more expensive, but something is still a little askew price-wise though considering the amount of engineering and production work that goes into a motorcycle versus EUC/e-scooter. Edited December 19, 2018 by Hunka Hunka Burning Love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyTop Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 8 minutes ago, Hunka Hunka Burning Love said: Too bad it wasn’t faster like a Dualtron. The second guy was able to ride to work on his, but it looked like the bike was a bit underpowered up hills only reaching about 35 mph? Top speed was about 47 mph or so. It’s weird though how much more “wheel” you can get in that price range. I guess our batteries are more expensive, but something is still a little askew price-wise though. When you look at a GotWay monster and compare it to the motorcycle, you do seem to get a lot more for the dolllar with the bike. I drove to work this morning checking my speed to see what it would take to keep with traffic on a standard 45 mp road. The answer is 50 mph, I would still work great downtown. Speeds rarely get above 35 mph 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esper Posted December 19, 2018 Author Share Posted December 19, 2018 That motorcycle looks really small. Also, I've seen electric assist bicycles that have very similar specs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyTop Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Esper said: That motorcycle looks really small. Also, I've seen electric assist bicycles that have very similar specs. Clears throat .... But it looks cool ...... and it has blinkers brake lights 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunka Hunka Burning Love Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) Ditto on the cool brake lights! What would be cooler is if a company like Gotway were to do a joint EUC venture with Zong Shen to produce something together. With their long term experience with two wheeled rides in China, I bet Zong Shen could bring a lot to the table in terms of shell engineering and design. Sometimes a bit of collaboration can bring together the best of both worlds. Here's a product brief on the City Slicker E-moto. http://www.cineco.cc/English/Index/product/catid/35/id/7.html (oh oh server crashed) I wonder whether going with a hub motor instead of the belt drive would up the speed capabilities. It sure looks like they got a pretty good design department, but it's best to wait for the reviews about the build quality... @Jason McNeil - do you think there might be any interest in the US for these reasonably priced Chinese e-moto's? I guess bumping up the speed requires a motorcycle license, but at least then you can register it, get it insured, and legally ride the streets. BTW, Jason, not that you don't have your hands full already doing stuff, but you need to publish a book like these guys! https://www.amazon.com/5000-Miles-At-8000-RPM/dp/1517355354#customerReviews Edited December 19, 2018 by Hunka Hunka Burning Love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esper Posted March 8, 2019 Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 OH BABY!! I just found out about a new motorcycle that will knock your socks off. @Hunka Hunka Burning Love Getta load of this! http://lightningmotorcycle.com/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunka Hunka Burning Love Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Holy Fritolies! Me likey! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lutalo Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Hunka Hunka Burning Love said: Holy Fritolies! Me likey! I have been a fan of lightning motorcycles since they first hit back in 2014. Fastest street legal motorcycle on the planet; hands down. The problem is the 40K price tag. My Suzuki Hyabusa; the fastest bike on the planet before the lightning was 13k brandstankinspankin new. Edited March 8, 2019 by Lutalo 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esaj Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 (edited) A Finnish company called RMK Vehicles is making a new e-motorcycle with a hubless rim motor: https://rmkvehicles.com/#e2-introduction Entering production in "late 2019", currently it looks like the price will be around 25k€ + VAT. Edited June 16, 2019 by esaj 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neurokinetik Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Want a good laugh? Then check this one out. http://daymak.com/em2.html I've been seeing ads for it, so my curiosity got the best of me and I checked it out. From the pics, it looks like a legit electric motorcycle, but the red flags show up quickly, and it only gets worse the more you look. First red flag: "does not require a license or insurance to operate" Second: Uses a lead acid battery Third: 500W motor Nail in the coffin: 30kph top speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esper Posted July 18, 2019 Author Share Posted July 18, 2019 14 hours ago, neurokinetik said: Want a good laugh? Then check this one out. http://daymak.com/em2.html I've been seeing ads for it, so my curiosity got the best of me and I checked it out. From the pics, it looks like a legit electric motorcycle, but the red flags show up quickly, and it only gets worse the more you look. First red flag: "does not require a license or insurance to operate" Second: Uses a lead acid battery Third: 500W motor Nail in the coffin: 30kph top speed. Apparently it qualifies as an electric bicycle... and only 300 charges?? that's really lame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ir_fuel Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 15 hours ago, neurokinetik said: First red flag: "does not require a license or insurance to operate" We've got cars like that (although in Belgium they do require insurance and a very simple to acquire license) Top speed 28mph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayRay Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) Sadly, it appears that the GenZe line of electric scooters are to be no more... Say goodbye: The only made-in-America electric scooter company closes The prices on these kept creeping up until they were way too expensive for the 50cc scooters they were supposed to compete with. (Note: 50cc scooters are limited to 30mph.) They've also been outclassed by newer electric scooters; (such as the Niu NGT which offers 125cc like performance, but still cost less than the latest GenZe 2.0e). It looks like they sell Niu scooters at my local Vespa shop... Hmm? (I'll pass on the 30mph limited ones, but that NGT model looks tempting.) Edited June 21, 2020 by RayRay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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