who_the Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 I recently re-calibrated my MSuper V3, and re-confirmed that an 8.0-degree forward tilt is my ideal setting. Wondering if this is extreme or where it falls on the spectrum of wheel calibrations out there. I ride fairly fast and (safely) aggressive in urban conditions with poor pavement conditions. I tried a variety of less forward tilt angles when I recalibrated and none felt as comfortable as my original. Thoughts? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab1 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 (edited) My V10F is set at 7 degree forward (positive) tilt which is comfortable. Edited May 21, 2018 by Rehab1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipsiain Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Ive not actually measured, but mine looks to be around 5 degrees backwards tilt on a Gotway acm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 I've got a kingsong ks16s how do i calibrate it to have a + or - degree I've read instructions but i can't tilt it when it's on cause it goes forward or backward ? any info please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriull Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 28 minutes ago, stephen said: I've got a kingsong ks16s how do i calibrate it to have a + or - degree I've read instructions but i can't tilt it when it's on cause it goes forward or backward ? any info please One needs to start the calibration procedure with the app to change the tilt angle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Morris Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 5 or more backward on the Tesla to stop pedal drag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 5 hours ago, who_the said: I recently re-calibrated my MSuper V3, and re-confirmed that an 8.0-degree forward tilt is my ideal setting. Wondering if this is extreme or where it falls on the spectrum of wheel calibrations out there. I ride fairly fast and (safely) aggressive in urban conditions with poor pavement conditions. I tried a variety of less forward tilt angles when I recalibrated and none felt as comfortable as my original. Thoughts? 8 degrees Wow, I would feel like I'm about to slide off the wheel Interesting that so many people use such large offsets, particularly with the toes pointing downward. I'm going to have to experiment more because I always ride level. Hmmm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARPed1701D Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 +3 degree forward tilt on my V8. Mainly due to the fact that I ride near tiltback and InMotion firmware seems to flare the pedals up just a few degrees when you are a couple of MPH away from the set tiltback speed ( a gentle advanced warning). As I cruise just below tiltback it means that most of the time my pedals have lifted just enough to level out. I'd never heard of people riding much more than + 3 degrees. I'll have to try it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Chriull said: One needs to start the calibration procedure with the app to change the tilt angle. yeah i did it through the app i press confirm then i have to hold the power button to set it for 5 seconds but how do i set the degree please.. do i have to put it on a incline or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esper Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 If i understand correctly, forward tilt means the front is lower and the back is higher. Under that definition, I ride with about a 5 degree backwards tilt so that the front is higher. Maybe a little less. This makes it so that when standing level I get a little acceleration and it becomes easier to stop suddenly. I don't ever ride full speed because the roads here are pretty bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriull Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 9 minutes ago, stephen said: yeah i did it through the app i press confirm then i have to hold the power button to set it for 5 seconds but how do i set the degree please.. do i have to put it on a incline or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniVehje Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 I like my V10F tilted +3 - 4 degrees forward. It feels comfortable and handles better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrelwood Posted May 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2018 3 hours ago, Chriull said: The calibration process is different on the 16S. I do it like this: Install a leveling app. (No need for a second phone.) I use "Light & Ruler" (iOS), as it has .1° precision. Launch the app to the background for easy switching. If the backside of your phone has a camera bulge, place the bulge outside of the pedal edge. Connect the wheel with KingSong app. Place the phone on the 16S pedal, aligned with the straight plastic to metal seam. In the KingSong app, tap "Calibrate". The wheel will stop balancing. Switch to the leveling app. Set the wheel to the angle you wish and hold it there. (Y-angle in the mentioned app). MAKE SURE the wheel is perfectly vertical left to right! Press the power button on the 16S. At the long beep, press the power button again. Done. Power the wheel back on to confirm the new angle. I use a prominent backwards angle because: it gives me a lot better stability at panic breaking, rough terrain and potholes. less fatigue since I don't have to actively press down on my toes. my riding boots seem to have quite a thick heel section. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Blaster Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 (edited) 3 degrees rearward tilt angle on calibration gives me a more comfortable angle at cruise speeds and helps with decreasing forward pitch of pedals in turns (pedal dip). Edited May 26, 2018 by Master Blaster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenhorse Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 What happens when you reverse direction on a wheel with non zero tilt ? (you go forward and then go backward). As I understand the tilt will have to 'transition' to be the same as before but in opposite direction. So if you have tilt set to 8 degrees your wheel will tilt 16 degrees when you switch direction and go from forward to backward. And while your toes were lower than heels when you were going forward now the heels will be lower than toes. Is this what happens with non zero tilt or I am missing something ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ipsiain Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, greenhorse said: What happens when you reverse direction on a wheel with non zero tilt ? (you go forward and then go backward). As I understand the tilt will have to 'transition' to be the same as before but in opposite direction. So if you have tilt set to 8 degrees your wheel will tilt 16 degrees when you switch direction and go from forward to backward. And while your toes were lower than heels when you were going forward now the heels will be lower than toes. Is this what happens with non zero tilt or I am missing something ? Good question. I only go forward so I haven’t a clue. Im interested to find out though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 As the KS-16S doesn’t have a slider but the position is decided manually, it doesn’t adapt to a reverse direction. You would just ride with an opposite calibration. I would think that the ones with a calibration slider behave the same. It would be nasty to have the wheel tilt back and forth when you impatiently idle at traffic lights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrd777 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 All my wheels always have backwards tilt, about 3 degrees. Im not sure how people ride with forward tilt? When I ride at speed there is way too much pressure on my toes with forward angle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 i still can't get to calibrate my ks16s I've tried the instructions I've looked on YouTube but it's a different version app I'm on 1.47 and there's only the one i can't use a leveling as as the pedals are slanted upwards ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbas Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 41 minutes ago, Mrd777 said: All my wheels always have backwards tilt, about 3 degrees. Im not sure how people ride with forward tilt? When I ride at speed there is way too much pressure on my toes with forward angle. Maybe it's related to body posture while riding? I also have backwards tilt and that's mainly because with forward tilt I feel like slipping away from pedals while braking (and that's when you want to have 100% control of your wheel). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriull Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 44 minutes ago, stephen said: i still can't get to calibrate my ks16s I've tried the instructions I've looked on YouTube but it's a different version app I'm on 1.47 and there's only the one i can't use a leveling as as the pedals are slanted upwards ? You tried the instructions @mrelwood? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
who_the Posted May 22, 2018 Author Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Mrd777 said: All my wheels always have backwards tilt, about 3 degrees. Im not sure how people ride with forward tilt? When I ride at speed there is way too much pressure on my toes with forward angle. Makes sense, but level or backward tilt places too much flex on my toes. Must be the odd, alien ?shape of my feet, slightly curled upward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrelwood Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 16 hours ago, stephen said: i still can't get to calibrate my ks16s I've tried the instructions I've looked on YouTube but it's a different version app I'm on 1.47 and there's only the one i can't use a leveling as as the pedals are slanted upwards ? Yes you can. Here's how: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 1 hour ago, mrelwood said: Yes you can. Here's how: just what i was looking for thanks very very much indeed;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannings Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 So i've had my tesla at a forward 3-4 degree angle for the last week, and I have to say my little toe is really killing from being buried into the end of my shoe, i'm not sure if forward is the one for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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