Jerome Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 10 minutes ago, Marty Backe said: I'm not saying it would be fun, but I believe it's doable. Some places I would have to walk for sure. One of my ACM's burned up on a ride and @Sven carried it out on his Monster. On another ride, @noisycarlos's ACM got a severe flat and @Jrkline "Wheel Whisperer" carried it out on his Monster. Cool. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrkline "Wheel Whisperer" Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Jerome said: 41 minutes ago, Marty Backe said: On another ride, @noisycarlos's ACM got a severe flat and @Jrkline "Wheel Whisperer" carried it out on his Monster. How does that work? You could carry a 50lb EUC down a steep dirt path for miles riding an Euc? I am not trying to be a wisenhammer, I am actually curious. The key to EUC retrieval via EUC is a seat.Both retrievals were done while sitting on a Monster in the seated position with disabled EUC carried on the lap,at least that is how I did it and I'm assuming @Sven did the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 6 minutes ago, Jrkline "Wheel Whisperer" said: The key to EUC retrieval via EUC is a seat.Both retrievals were done while sitting on a Monster in the seated position with disabled EUC carried on the lap,at least that is how I did it and I'm assuming @Sven did the same thing. @Sven was not sitting. See him carrying it here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED209 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 I remember this! I wonder if Sven has experienced any problems or issues with the Monster since riding the Chino hills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Edddeus said: I remember this! I wonder if Sven has experienced any problems or issues with the Monster since riding the Chino hills He had some unrelated bad shims on his Monster and no longer owns it. I haven't heard from him in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 7 hours ago, Marty Backe said: Here are the vitals from my ascent Holy crap, no wonder you standby your Gotways. An average 10.5% 10 mile climb, with part(s) 38.5% (steeper than SF hills). Heck you can ride your MSuper VS3+ over the Rockies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Jrkline "Wheel Whisperer" said: The key to EUC retrieval via EUC is a seat.Both retrievals were done while sitting on a Monster in the seated position with disabled EUC carried on the lap,at least that is how I did it and I'm assuming @Sven did the same thing. Okay, makes sense. A lot of skill is required. Are you the guy that jumps down stairs with your Monster in videos? When Marty gets his MSuper X he can use his MSuper Vs3+ with a seat as the retrieval unit.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrkline "Wheel Whisperer" Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 35 minutes ago, Jerome said: Okay, makes sense. A lot of skill is required. Are you the guy that jumps down stairs with your Monster in videos? When Marty gets his MSuper X he can use his MSuper Vs3+ with a seat as the retrieval unit.? The weight is the issue.It is harder to ride while seated with a 50LB. weight on your lap than it is to ride standing and holding it,but it is not long before holding a 50LB. boat anchor wears on your arms.The trail to get out to our vehicles was about 8 miles so I rode out seated most of the way. Then I had to carry another EUC back in so @noisycarlos had something to ride back out.And no,I'm not the guy in the videos jumping stairs.I have gone down stairs on the Monster,but tend to refrain because it is so hard on the axel and shell and I like the Monster in one piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunka Hunka Burning Love Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 For any of the new people who may have missed this epic thread, and for those who wonder why I keep pestering Marty about staying well hydrated ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted May 22, 2018 Author Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Hunka Hunka Burning Love said: For any of the new people who may have missed this epic thread, and for those who wonder why I keep pestering Marty about staying well hydrated ... It's been a bit over a year since that happened. Enough time has gone by that it almost seems like I'm reading about another persons adventure. What a day that was. Yes, I guess you're allowed to keep reminding me to stay hydrated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriull Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 @Marty Backe do you have the end charge % of your ride (after the downhill section)? Just to get an idea of regenerative capabilities. I'd assume you started fully charged, imo reported 40% on top and 45% after some rest? ps.: Even better would be the voltages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted May 22, 2018 Author Share Posted May 22, 2018 4 hours ago, Chriull said: @Marty Backe do you have the end charge % of your ride (after the downhill section)? Just to get an idea of regenerative capabilities. I'd assume you started fully charged, imo reported 40% on top and 45% after some rest? ps.: Even better would be the voltages Part 3 summarizes the return. I barely made it back. The thing is, I took a 26-mile highway road back down that included lots of headwind, some uphill, and about 8-miles of flatter riding. Most of the downhill segment consumed only about 5%. My no-load battery level was ~%20 at the very end. Therefore it took 25% of my battery to go 26-miles, which is exceptional mileage. Put another way, a 1600wh MSuper V3s+ was able to travel 36-miles and climb and descend 4600-feet while consuming 80% of the battery. That's rather impressive and clearly demonstrates that regenerative charging was in play. Sorry, didn't record any voltages. The coming Saturday I'm doing the ride again, with a few other people. But this time I'm returning via the same trail. I'll let you know how that turns out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriull Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 14 minutes ago, Marty Backe said: ... The coming Saturday I'm doing the ride again, with a few other people. But this time I'm returning via the same trail. I'll let you know how that turns out. Great! Charge % should be perfectly fine to just have some numbers, but voltages would be a bit more accurate (though i have no idea if this helps anyhow ?). Main point is imo that the values are noted after some resting period! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARPed1701D Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 This seems an appropriate thread for me to post a reminder about Personal Locator Beacons and other satellite based communication devices. People who enjoy riding remote terrain like Marty, especially those who ride alone, should take a look at PLB's or Satellite Messengers as life saving additions to their ride pack. Cell signal is usually crap in remote and mountainous terrain and while Marty's route here appears quite busy many are not. We've probably all heard this week about the two bikers attacked by the Mountain Lion in Washington state. The sole survivor had to ride two miles to get a cell signal to request help. That's not too bad in general but he was badly injured and was lucky to be able to ride after the attack. Riding EUCs we are at risk of broken limbs that could prevent us moving from the area of a fall to a location of cell service. Marty himself has had to be rescued when he became dehydrated and lost in the hills with no cell signal. The group had to split up to get help and no one really knew where the other was or if they were OK. It would have been safer and nicer to activate the beacon and all camp out together to await assistance rather risk 3 lost and dehydrated people spread over the terrain. A PLB works anywhere worldwide with a clear view of the sky and will signal your precise GPS location to rescue services and also has a short range transmitter for people on the ground to follow when near you. I used to teach safety at sea to new boaters and these things could have saved so many lives. I don't boat much at the moment but I still carry my one whenever I have vacations in the mountains and go hiking, especially if I have my elderly parent with me. Be sure to check them out. This is my one: https://www.rei.com/product/843146/acr-electronics-resqlink-gps-personal-locator-beacon More info here that also covers satellite messengers: https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/personal-locator-beacons.html They only cost a few hundred dollars. If we are prepared to drop a few grand on a new wheel I would think that a few hundred on something that could save your live would be a no brainier. I hope this helps some people who enjoy trail riding in the back-country. P.S. Carry a space blanket too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted May 22, 2018 Author Share Posted May 22, 2018 Here's the conclusion to my ride that conquered Mt Wilson. Thanks for watching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunka Hunka Burning Love Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Excellent conclusion video! There's not much of a side path up higher to dodge those large trucks. Good thing there wasn't that much traffic until later on. I'd be afraid of someone zooming down quickly around a tight corner and not seeing you in time. People are always on their cell phones, texting, drinking coffee, etc that I'd be wary about a distracted driver coming up from behind. Maybe a reflective vest would be a good idea. Also, I spotted a perfect spot to send a drone up to get a pull back shot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted May 22, 2018 Author Share Posted May 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, Hunka Hunka Burning Love said: Excellent conclusion video! There's not much of a side path up higher to dodge those large trucks. Good thing there wasn't that much traffic until later on. I'd be afraid of someone zooming down quickly around a tight corner and not seeing you in time. People are always on their cell phones, texting, drinking coffee, etc that I'd be wary about a distracted driver coming up from behind. Maybe a reflective vest would be a good idea. Also, I spotted a perfect spot to send a drone up to get a pull back shot... Thanks. With my rearview mirror I have excellent situational awareness and can see traffic that will be coming around the corner. Hopefully people aren't texting while driving down winding canyon roads You'll never see me wearing a reflective vest - I still have some self-respect. At work, so I can't see whatever picture you posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunka Hunka Burning Love Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I wouldn't say that you would need to wear it all the time, but you could put it on if you're in any heavy traffic areas. Besides, it wouldn't be that bad going with the black jacket. I believe they can fold up into a small carrying pack. I can't have my investment getting mowed down by some crazy truck driver... I think @MaxLinux used to wear one routinely. I hope he didn't get run over... haven't seen him for a bit. http://www.policemag.com/blog/careers/story/2010/10/fancy-vests-that-save-lives.aspx If I'm driving and see someone in a yellow reflective vest, I'm extra careful just in case it's police or a road-worker. Even a bike flag helps raise visibility. Say it's getting late at night, and the sun goes down before you're back to your truck. A black motorcycle jacket while cool and protective may not be that visible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab1 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 17 hours ago, Hunka Hunka Burning Love said: For any of the new people who may have missed this epic thread, and for those who wonder why I keep pestering Marty about staying well hydrated ... 16 hours ago, Marty Backe said: It's been a bit over a year since that happened. Enough time has gone by that it almost seems like I'm reading about another persons adventure. What a day that was. Digging up the past? Awesome! The old Brokebacke Mountain Days were a fun time....atleast for me. ? I still remember having to teach Marty some survival skills using his ACM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve454 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 14 minutes ago, Hunka Hunka Burning Love said: I think @MaxLinux used to wear one routinely. I hope he didn't get run over... haven't seen him for a bit. He is active on Youtube under the name Bryan Bryan T. Posted a video just last month. Seems he is not into euc's anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maltocs Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Great Ride and vids. I'm gonna forward the links to my friend. I did this ride 20 years ago on a Mountain Bike with a buddy of mine. After watching many of Marty's videos around the LA area, I asked Marty about this trail and he researched and made the climb. I told him if he made it to the top, I could probably convince by buddy to get an EUC so we can conquer the mountain in another form. Thanks @Marty Backe for doing this and hopefully getting another rider into the sport. Once I get trained up, I'll attempt this myself despite the fact that you guys are scaring me with talk of dehydration, falling off the mountain, and satellite EMS response! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted May 22, 2018 Author Share Posted May 22, 2018 35 minutes ago, Hunka Hunka Burning Love said: I wouldn't say that you would need to wear it all the time, but you could put it on if you're in any heavy traffic areas. Besides, it wouldn't be that bad going with the black jacket. I believe they can fold up into a small carrying pack. I can't have my investment getting mowed down by some crazy truck driver... I think @MaxLinux used to wear one routinely. I hope he didn't get run over... haven't seen him for a bit. http://www.policemag.com/blog/careers/story/2010/10/fancy-vests-that-save-lives.aspx If I'm driving and see someone in a yellow reflective vest, I'm extra careful just in case it's police or a road-worker. Even a bike flag helps raise visibility. Say it's getting late at night, and the sun goes down before you're back to your truck. A black motorcycle jacket while cool and protective may not be that visible... Do you think I'd be into riding EUCs (one wheel self-balancing machines with zero redundancy) if I was the kind of person to wear safety vests and flags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunka Hunka Burning Love Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Marty, Marty, Marty, we are trying to build the brand here! Stop fighting it! I know you're all about that bad boy "James Dean" image, but we do have to help represent the sport and promote safety as much as it is possible on one wheel. Look at what happened when James didn't use a seat belt. Well, it probably wouldn't have saved him, but that's besides the point! Look at Tony Hawk - he's always geared up and sets a good example for skateboarding safety. There are cooler options available too... https://www.amazon.com/KwikSafety-SPECIALIST-Reflective-Compliant-Breathable/dp/B01CFKYO1S I'm just gonna plant that seed and let karma run its course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab1 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 3 hours ago, Marty Backe said: You'll never see me wearing a reflective vest - I still have some self-respect. 1 hour ago, Hunka Hunka Burning Love said: Look at Tony Hawk - he's always geared up and sets a good example for skateboarding safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted May 23, 2018 Author Share Posted May 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Rehab1 said: Is there a moderator around here that can limit posts from this guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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