THE VIDEO THREAD!

[houseofjob]

41 minutes ago, Hunka Hunka Burning Love said:

Chris is so busy checking out wheels he got his username pluralized to @houseofjobs!   I hope to someday become Hunkahunkaburningloves!  

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[Unventor]

42 minutes ago, Hunka Hunka Burning Love said:

Chris is so busy checking out wheels he got his username pluralized to @houseofjobs!   I hope to someday become Hunkahunkaburningloves!  

Did you say burning gloves ??

[houseofjob]

6 hours ago, Hunka Hunka Burning Love said:

  Anyone else get distracted by the guy wearing the InMotion T-shirt to a Gotway MSuper X first look video?  

[houseofjob]

9 hours ago, mezzanine said:

Damn, I might be getting tempted by the 18L.  I really like the way it seems to cram an 18" wheel into a city-friendly form factor.

Yes, it was surprisingly light-to-the-pull for a 1kW nominal wheel having lifted many 18's here.

 

9 hours ago, mezzanine said:

I am starting to hate when EUC companies release fake specs ahead of launch, though.  The Z series was initially advertised as being 84V and the KS18L was initially listed as being 36lbs. or thereabouts.

Amen to this.

Just don't post legit-looking stat sheets if they don't have the prototype specs set.

 

9 hours ago, mezzanine said:

This would be a good time to be just getting into the hobby, in that a wheel like the 18L could easily be someone's only wheel.

I never thought of it like this, always flipping wheels to get new wheels, and tending towards roughly a 3-wheel rotation myself (backup for my backup), plus different use cases, but having just one KS-18L would suit at least my NYC daily riding very nicely!

 

9 hours ago, mezzanine said:

I've been trying not to be tempted by these new releases because I've already blown my EUC budget.

I have no idea what this means, can you describe it? You mean my extra kidney is not something I should sell for another wheel? ?

 

7 hours ago, eddiemoy said:

The 18L will be my go to wheel for short rides and the 18S will be for longer rides.  Until they update their 18S.  Lol

Yes, this!

I'm actually contemplating this inevitability, pre-emptively selling my KS-18S now, but wavering because that would leave me without a seated EUC, no bueno~

 

7 hours ago, eddiemoy said:

The Z10 with it motorcycle wheel is very weird.  It rides like a motorcycle.  Seems to have some of the turning characteristics too.  Slow speed turns different than high speed turns.  I constantly felt that it might throw me high side like on a motorcycle.  Very weird feeling.  But I think need tint to adjust to.  

I'm realizing I might've overdone the PSI lowering for the group ride, was slightly underinflated, at least for my bodyweight, which did a little bit of pulling due to the underinflation.

But your motorcycle analogy is legit too, been trying to see if I can do that knee-leaning thing they do on it.

 

9 hours ago, wheelr said:

So far I'm looking at the 9bot Z10, the MCM5 and the 18L, talk about busting one's budget ?

Oh, man, bummer you weren't in NYC for the demo this go, we had all those there!

 

9 hours ago, mezzanine said:

The integrated handle/trolley on the 18L is a nice feature.  I don't need a huge battery.  It kind of reminds me of an 18" Tesla or V10F, which is close to what I would want in my ideal if I were limited to having only one.  

Really think that 18L (barring unforeseen engineering gremlins, as usual for new wheels) is gonna be a sleeper hit. 

Mixed balance of fast enough speed (50kph), ... relatively light weight for an 18", ... the 2.5" wide for bumps/shocks (I might be wrong, but the stock Kenda that's on the 18L might be similar but not as bouncy/rubber-y as the weirdo (in a good way) V10F Kenda stock 16 x 2.5, super cushy for bumping), ... harder to overpower than my 67V KS-18S now with a King Song first 84V, ... stronger magnesium handle on an already excellent design & orientation trolley (plus weight-sensor motor disengage where you can lift the wheel in collapsed, middle, and pulled out telescoping trolley positions), .... good enough range/battery, ... and dual Lenovo reversible plugging charge ports for fast charge (all wheels should have this, my favorite charging connector!).

[Citi Wheel]

On 6/9/2018 at 3:52 AM, gr8ps said:

I love Tishawn's videos but he never really shows himself riding in any of the videos. He rides like an asshole. You all ride like assholes in that video - no ifs, ands, or buts about that. You guys blow through stop signs and red lights like they aren't even there. You are accidents waiting to happen. It reflects badly on the EUC community in my opinion. Also, it's one thing to put yourself at risk but another thing altogether to put other pedestrians at risk. 

Respectfully disagree. If you watch the video you see we yield to pedestrians, so I'm not sure what you are talking about.

[ir_fuel]

He probably never saw a cyclist in NY ? 

[Marty Backe]

7 hours ago, Tishawn Fahie said:

Greetings all - I was also able to play around with the Ninebot One Z 10 - thanks to @houseofjobs! I dont believe in reviewing a wheel I dont own especially when you only have it for a couple of hours but here's my first impression video. Thanks!

 

 

Great video! I'm excited about this wheel. Love your video style.

Just to correct something that @houseofjob was saying at the beginning, the MCM5 absolutely has a kill switch in the handle. It does not use weight sensing to shut off the motor. I don't think the Chinese worry too much about infringing on patents  

Also, as you observed with the wheel spinning when you picked it up, I don't think they are using weight sensing, but instead are sensing the resistance of the tire to the ground (which disappears when you pick the wheel up). Don't know for sure of course. Like you, I prefer the kill switch in the MCM5 and V10F, but it's good to know that it can be disabled.

 

Edited June 11, 2018 by Marty Backe

[ED209]

24 minutes ago, Marty Backe said:

I prefer the kill switch in the MCM5 and V10F

Don't forget the Inmotion V8, the wheel that started the trend! ?

[z3n]

42 minutes ago, Edddeus said:

Don't forget the Inmotion V8, the wheel that started the trend! ?

The V5 did! 

[houseofjob]

1 hour ago, Marty Backe said:

Just to correct something that @houseofjob was saying at the beginning, the MCM5 absolutely has a kill switch in the handle. It does not use weight sensing to shut off the motor. I don't think the Chinese worry too much about infringing on patents  

Also, as you observed with the wheel spinning when you picked it up, I don't think they are using weight sensing, but instead are sensing the resistance of the tire to the ground (which disappears when you pick the wheel up). Don't know for sure of course. Like you, I prefer the kill switch in the MCM5 and V10F, but it's good to know that it can be disabled.

Yes, this was before I had a chance to actually press it at our Z10 NYC demo. At that time, I only knew the early report info.

The MCM5 implementation was very interesting, not exactly the same style as the V10F button, in a good way.

All the InMotions have a spring-resisting plastic button press, which doesn't always engage when quickly snatching the wheel off the ground; you have to learn to pause for the blip, then you can pull off the ground.

Whereas the MCM5 implementation is like a sturdy metallic strip under the handle (which you already know, but for those who have not experienced yet) that can be clicked up to disengage the wheel, almost like pressing / clicking on a tin box that will dimple in, then dimple out when un-pressing.

 

Actually, out of all 3 handle motor disengage styles (Ninebot/King Song weight sensor (S2, Z, KS18L) / InMotion spring-resist plastic button (V5, V8, V10) / Gotway clicky-tin under-handle (MCM5)), I really like the Gotway MCM5 implementation the best.

It's:

• super fast with no need to delay for the disengage (I love fast transitions from riding to carrying & walking),
• very sturdy (the InMotion disengage buttons are the worst to align the depressed springs in place when you've split the shell, then have to reassemble, ugh),
• and less chance for failure IMHO with wires & such, like the worrisome weight sensor wiring method in at least the KS18L, where it's just wires at the end of trolley assembly's base support sticks in the body (TBF, I haven't seen the internals of how the Ninebot & Gotway wiring for this is implemented).

 

Edited June 11, 2018 by houseofjob

[Marty Backe]

32 minutes ago, houseofjob said:

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Actually, out of all 3 handle motor disengage styles (Ninebot/King Song weight sensor (S2, Z, KS18L) / InMotion spring-resist plastic button (V5, V8, V10) / Gotway clicky-tin under-handle (MCM5)), I really like the Gotway MCM5 implementation the best.

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I agree with you. The MCM5 is my first wheel with a cutoff switch and I felt that it is much more natural then the V10F where you have to slightly 'hunt' for the button to use it.

[Marty Backe]

58 minutes ago, z3n said:

The V5 did! 

 

1 hour ago, Edddeus said:

Don't forget the Inmotion V8, the wheel that started the trend! ?

Good points. My only personal experience is with the V10 and MCM5. Hopefully this is a trend that will become baseline on all future wheels.

[gr8ps]

3 hours ago, Citi Wheel said:

Respectfully disagree. If you watch the video you see we yield to pedestrians, so I'm not sure what you are talking about.

Blowing through stop sign - https://youtu.be/gfBC5fEAQXo?t=1m49s

Blowing through another stop sign - https://youtu.be/gfBC5fEAQXo?t=1m58s

Blowing through a red light while a pedestrian is crossing a crosswalk - https://youtu.be/gfBC5fEAQXo?t=2m20s

 

Blowing through another red light - https://youtu.be/gfBC5fEAQXo?t=2m33s

Blowing through another red light, riding between cross pedestrians that have the right of way - https://youtu.be/gfBC5fEAQXo?t=5m34s

Doing it again - https://youtu.be/gfBC5fEAQXo?t=5m42s

Blowing through another red - https://youtu.be/gfBC5fEAQXo?t=6m6s

Riding past pedestrians who have the right of way again - https://youtu.be/gfBC5fEAQXo?t=8m1s

Doing it again, disregard another red too - https://youtu.be/gfBC5fEAQXo?t=8m50s

 

But hey, you have no idea what I'm talking about. I must be seeing things.

[dieterGRAMS]

18 minutes ago, gr8ps said:

Blowing through stop sign - https://youtu.be/gfBC5fEAQXo?t=1m49s

Blowing through another stop sign - https://youtu.be/gfBC5fEAQXo?t=1m58s

Blowing through a red light while a pedestrian is crossing a crosswalk - https://youtu.be/gfBC5fEAQXo?t=2m20s

 

Blowing through another red light - https://youtu.be/gfBC5fEAQXo?t=2m33s

Blowing through another red light, riding between cross pedestrians that have the right of way - https://youtu.be/gfBC5fEAQXo?t=5m34s

Doing it again - https://youtu.be/gfBC5fEAQXo?t=5m42s

Blowing through another red - https://youtu.be/gfBC5fEAQXo?t=6m6s

Riding past pedestrians who have the right of way again - https://youtu.be/gfBC5fEAQXo?t=8m1s

Doing it again, disregard another red too - https://youtu.be/gfBC5fEAQXo?t=8m50s

 

But hey, you have no idea what I'm talking about. I must be seeing things.

Ayy this is NYC. This is how you have to move unless you wanna get plowed by a Cab. Unless you want a Roadie or Mess-lifer up your ass. I had a cyclist slam into the back of me going UP the Manhattan bridge because I thought i'd chill and pace with tourists on Citibikes. You should see the Mexican/Chinese delivery E-bikes... 

 

1st Post. Usually a forum lurker these days but I had to speak up for my City. Thanks to Chris for the chance to ride the z10 this weekend along with the 18s/18l, v10f, MCM5 and others

Edited June 11, 2018 by dieterGRAMS

[ir_fuel]

And where in that entire list of "evidence" you see one pedestrian being blocked? It seems to me they all just keep on walking at their normal pace and nobody has to move over or stop because they are "blowing through"?

Ever seen how pedestrians themselves behave at intersections?

[Marty Backe]

Everyone should chill on this NYC thread. Instead of counting all of the infractions by the NYC crew, how about getting outside and enjoy some riding on your wheel 

[winter]

 

Edited August 18, 2018 by nte

[Hunka Hunka Burning Love]

Don't forget about the lack of helmets!!!    Where's the helmet police???  Wrr wrr wrr...

NYCers have hard heads.  They don't need helmets.    Except for @Citi Wheel.  He's a rebel.

But ya gotta give props to @Tishawn Fahie - the man's got swagger even on EUCs!  

It'd be funny to shoot a video with these guys chasing the NYC crew down and issuing tickets for not wearing safety gear and breaking some driving rules.  

It would be neat to see a wheel reveal done at a go kart track or something like that.  I'd love to see people zoom around the curves on the 9botZ at high speed to see their turning technique.  Even with the Tesla, I like to lean into the curve a fair bit to keep the speed up while making the turn.  Slaloms are really fun.

Edited June 11, 2018 by Hunka Hunka Burning Love

[ir_fuel]

@Hunka Hunka Burning Love did you see the price of those things in the video you posted?

?

[gr8ps]

12 minutes ago, ir_fuel said:

And where in that entire list of "evidence" you see one pedestrian being blocked? It seems to me they all just keep on walking at their normal pace and nobody has to move over or stop because they are "blowing through"? 

Please point out where I said pedestrians were being blocked. Blowing through, not yielding - whatever. Riding between pedestrians is not yielding.

But whatever man - red lights and stop signs are optional for New Yorkers.

[ir_fuel]

Just now, gr8ps said:

But whatever man - red lights and stop signs are optional for New Yorkers.

That is correct.

[Hunka Hunka Burning Love]

16 minutes ago, nte said:

I was going to record my ride this morning but decided against it since recording a video means holding my phone in my hand.

I was traveling down a street with no traffic and I sensed a vehicle behind me. I check with my mirror mounted on my wrist guard and the vehicle is kinda far from me but its pace was strange. So I slow down as I come up on a stop sign and the truck that was behind me speeds up, gets next to me and slams on the brakes. The driver yelled "GET OUT OF THE FUCKING ROAD". 

Kinda bummed that I didn't capture the moment.

You guys got rednecks in your part of the woods too hey?  It's sad when people who shouldn't reproduce create offspring.  It just dilutes the gene pool.    There really should be like a procreation license or test or something that people need to pass.  Then again, sometimes it's nature versus nuture.  Difficult to win against the powers of stupidity.  It runs very strong in some people as the dominant gene.

11 minutes ago, ir_fuel said:

@Hunka Hunka Burning Love did you see the price of those things in the video you posted?

?

Ah, I didn't look too closely?  $999?  Do people even still buy those?  Last I saw was the one guy from Mythbusters trying it out.  I still like the video.  It's funny.  Even still, the SBU design was clean and functional.  Maybe add on a splash fender in the back, swap in a Tesla motor, control board, and batteries... and it would be a barebones type of wheel with a seat.  

Edited June 11, 2018 by Hunka Hunka Burning Love

[novazeus]

it was a long time ago, but the most thrilling part of nyc(besides some big black guy trying to mug me)was the late night cab ride where my cabbie blew all the lights.

i got the feeling nyc was a combat zone where u were always on guard and rules were broken. get over it.

this pretty much summed up ur focus back then:

 

[novazeus]

19 hours ago, Marty Backe said:

I've never intimated that I don't get wobbles. However, I don't fall off the wheel when I get them 

don’t worry, those must be “newbie” wobbles. they’ll go away after a few thousand miles.

i started a wobble topic because of the issues i was having with my s2. turns out it was the tire bead had gotten unseated a little, but nooo, all anybody had to say was “must be newbie wobbles” even though i never experienced wobbles and i was over a couple of hundred miles at the time.

so “experts” does Marty have newbie wobbles, or is it something else?

when my tire was screwed up, my wobbles weren’t as bad as urs, but i wasn’t going as fast. sure, i get little correction wobbles after an irregularity on my road, but not like ur new wheel. i would not like that. the difference is, my s2 would wobble on perfect pavement once i got to about 8mph.

[eddiemoy]

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