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is an euc a "motorized bicycle" in california


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I went to check out the bike trail.   that's one of the places I thought i'd be riding once I get one of these things.   the sign says no motorized vehicles or motorized bicycles.  that seems to pretty clearly exclude me. or does it?  I thought I saw somewhere when I was first learning about these things they can go legally anywhere a bicycle can. if they are legal in spite of the wording on the sign does anybody have the legal statute(s) I can provide to whoever is the authority trying to ticket me. and who is that authority?  what agency would I contact to get an answer? there's nothing on the sign about who that is. seems like i'm getting myself into another trouble spot here.  all my life I always seem to like to do things that are just on the edge of legal. I wish I lived in a free country. don't know if there is such a place anymore.  sigh. 

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4 hours ago, stuartg said:

the sign says no motorized vehicles or motorized bicycles.  

If the sign uses the word 'motor' you begin a losing battle if the authorities choose to dissuade your chosen variety of powered transportation.

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I live half a block from our city Police, Fire Station and Court house, one stop shopping lol... since they have nicest black top, that's where I do all my practice, started with electric skateboads... Local Police just wave or give me thumbs up... pretty free if you ask me...

 

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thanks marty,     that's encouraging but I think electric skateboards would be excluded from these trails also  (it says motorized vehicles)  I agree that asking for permission would get a definite no answer. then I could no longer plead ignorance. well, about the legality - they might still consider me ignorant.   i'll have to do a little research on what trails don't have these signs. it's possible that i'll be an outlaw everywhere I go. I know a very fun trail that used to be approved for motorcycles but that was many years ago. this is a small town with  a seemingly higher than average percentage of enforcers to general public. and they like to use (abuse)  their authority.  can't get away with much here. once I start riding this thing within 3 weeks every official in town will know who I am- where I live-what time of day I go for a ride- and whatever else they want to know about me. 

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15 minutes ago, Mark Lee said:

Other day at work, I ride my Mten3 during breaks on Public transportation terminal, every minute of my break.  the head Transit officer who saw me from my early day said "You're getting pretty good, much faster, we're going to have to set up some cones for you."  True story.

That's fantastic. Utah appears to be an enlightened state :thumbup:

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6 minutes ago, stuartg said:

thanks marty,     that's encouraging but I think electric skateboards would be excluded from these trails also  (it says motorized vehicles)  I agree that asking for permission would get a definite no answer. then I could no longer plead ignorance. well, about the legality - they might still consider me ignorant.   i'll have to do a little research on what trails don't have these signs. it's possible that i'll be an outlaw everywhere I go. I know a very fun trail that used to be approved for motorcycles but that was many years ago. this is a small town with  a seemingly higher than average percentage of enforcers to general public. and they like to use (abuse)  their authority.  can't get away with much here. once I start riding this thing within 3 weeks every official in town will know who I am- where I live-what time of day I go for a ride- and whatever else they want to know about me. 

Good luck.

If you read AB604 (you should) it re-defines the legal term for a Motor Vehicle in California. The new definition states that devices such as electric skateboards are not motorized vehicles even though they have motors.

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@Marty Backe like you, I try my best to be best possible ambassador to our passion.  If anyone have a question I will answer them all with respect... Don't know how many of those cards Jason from ewheels sent me but it was a stack, passed out most of them.

 

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Is a "motorized bicycle" a motorized bicycle in California???

From DMV.org:

Mopeds (Motorized Bicycles)

  • 2 - 3 wheels
  • No faster than 30 mph
  • Auto trans
  • A motor (< 4 hp)
  • Electric motor (pedals IF NOT powered solely by motor)

California electric bicycles have:     

  • Fully operable pedals 
  • Electric motors (< 750 W)
  • Additional characteristics that divide into 3 classes (w/different applicable laws)

Sooo... A 'motorized bicycle' is a moped, unless it's electric then it becomes an electric bicycle, unless it has over 750W then it becomes a motorized bicycle (which means it's a moped)?

Not to be confused with a motor-driven cycle aka motorcycle. :confused1:

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It only gets more confusing from here...
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In California the pertinent sections of law are VC 313.5 and 21113, as part of Sec. 3, Article 7, created and amended (respectively) by AB 604 in October 2015.

VC 313.5 is interpreted to include EUC in its definition of an "electrically motorized board" as follows:

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An “electrically motorized board” is any wheeled device that has a floorboard designed to be stood upon when riding that is not greater than 60 inches deep and 18 inches wide, is designed to transport only one person, and has an electric propulsion system averaging less than 1,000 watts, the maximum speed of which, when powered solely by a propulsion system on a paved level surface, is no more than 20 miles per hour.

VC 21113 gives local agencies and municipalities the right to enforce additional restrictions on "electrically motorized boards," which many do.

Sec. 3, Article 7 (VC 21290-21296) establish restrictions for riding "electrically motorized boards," including speed limits, age restrictions, light requirements, and roadway limitations. It also prohibits their use under the influence of drugs and alcohol.

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I think the key is to win over hearts and mind of general public... with little grace and kindness... The ones that have guts to approach a EUC rider is indeed very interested... Anymore I send them to this forum... I have a little clip of me riding on the tarmac at transit center... Youtube "NowinUtah" never seen myself ride so had fellow new EUC rider film it for me... He bought nine bot one C+ to learn on and already ready to upgrade to Mten3... :clap3:

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21 hours ago, Marty Backe said:

That's fantastic. Utah appears to be an enlightened state :thumbup:

Actually we are what California was 50 years ago... Most people just doing what is right...

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20 minutes ago, Mark Lee said:

Actually we are what California was 50 years ago... Most people just doing what is right...

Enjoy what you have while it lasts :(

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I'm hoping things will improve in Cali soon... There are major influx of people moving into Salt Lake City from Cali... Last few units I've rented out was from Cali... did not workout too well... :facepalm: Replaced them with locals... :thumbup: been in business for 24 years now...

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I was riding along the American River, and passed by two California Highway Patrol officers on bicycles.  I slowed down, said "Howdy," and made a comment that I did not know CHP patrolled on bicycles in city parks, just to give them the chance to chase me away.  They said they did, and I bolted off.  They found no problem with me, I guess.

On the other hand, on another occasion, I heard a bicyclist yell at me as they passed in the opposite direction that I should not ride on the bike path.  CHP trumps bicycle grouch.

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