Boogieman Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 (edited) Firmware Issue 1.1.6 WARNING, NOT SAFE! CUT OFF if feet leave fotplates (see Yourube videos at bottom) Here is the list so far, PLEASE if anyone can do the "footplate test" (as on first video) on mainboard 1.1.7 and report if issue is solved. I would like to update mostly for the BMS, but I dont dare if the unsafe behaviour is still there. Lift vehicle while pressing on foot plate, wheels should spin as its lifted. Then release foot plate pressure. Wheels SHOULD free wheel to a stop - NOT STOP INSTANTLY by breaking like in 1.1.6 video. FW marked with * is the one I have now and includes my comments, other FW comments are from FW update screen *mainboard 1.0.8 - GOOD/SAFE, no cutoff if foot removed with wheels spinning (when off ground) - PROBLEM, adjusting steering sensitivity and ride sensitivity during an active ride, sent mine into steering freak mode and after stopping it was locked into left turn (constant turning). Turn back to "auto mode" again at standstill - problem solved, Now it can once again be set manually for sharper control (or softer if one likes that) - PROBLEM, tiltback and alarm at 19km/h in app - PROBLEM, 19-20km/h in app = 16km/h real speed (GPS show 16 when pushing it constantly) mainboard 1.1.6 WARNING, NOT SAFE! CUT OFF if feet leave fotplates (see videos below) mainboard 1.1.7 Optimized uplsope performance Optimized alarm in slope Other small known bugs MY WARNING - UNKNOWN IF SAFETY ISSUE FROM 1.1.6 IS RESOLVED *BLE 1.0.0 Ocasinal problems at "search again" (Huawei P8) BLE 1.0.1 IOS11 bluetooth connection fix *BMS 1.1.8 No known/noted yet BMS 1.2.0 Optimized cell balance function *Co-control 1.0.6 A bit confused when starting "not facing" remote Co-control 1.1.4 New function: - Optimized follow me performance *Follow 1.0.0 None noted, see co-control 1.0.6 Follow 1.0.X NO UPDATE AVAILABLE (have it been included in co-control in latest FW?) *Remote 1.0.3 None noted, remote and phone both work fine to remote control Remote 1.0.4 New function: - Fix that remote sometimes cant be charged - Optimize indication of remote control battery volume (level?) Gimbal N/A (dont have one) Likely this one also suffers from 1.1.6 FAST FORWARD to 00:20 for crash Edited April 22, 2018 by Boogieman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Boogieman Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 (edited) I have been running with the OLD FW stated above with a star * now for a while and really pushed it. Constantly pushing max speed, inducing tilt back while at the same time doing both short sharp turns and long power turns (pressing with one leg maximum on pedal and knee fully on bar, with all settings at "max") and NO ISSUES whatsoever. Today the nienbot did cut out though as i jumped over a tranch and it landed slightly on the edge of the trench (kind of expected) but no problem, i just jumped off and ran a few steps, put it upright and continued driving. What does NOT WORK is the follow me mode (which seems updated in the newer firmware). I think it worked better as the vehicle was new, so it might be that antenna is damaged (on ninebor or remote that i keep in compartment...so if it falls both antennas take a hit...but it has only fallen a few times...mostly due to stupid bugs like if you lift it and put it down real quick it does not balance it just falls flat...major bug) Now it seems pretty cluesless if i start with remote close to it. As soons as it finds the remote and backs off a meter it works ok though. Tried all different settings in app with distance and follow angle (follow angle is NOT lean angle like in the rest of the menus, it is the steering angle vs the remote aka how it steers to follow remote, not very clear but i found out by testing). So i want to upgrade, but not if the "foot plate cut out issue" has not been resolved. And based on @Mapyx response above @NineBotdoes not really seem to care about safety issues even on their latest and greatest. I have even reported it but never any answer from @xiaomi & ninebot. Lest hope they do now - especially as the Z series EUC are released. Dont want this to happen on a mono that does twice the speed...not good for rep. Better fix the mini plus that is their latest segway too...cant understand why the dont....:clueless Edited June 28, 2018 by Boogieman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevmar Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 My 2018 US MiniPro also throws me under specific conditions - repeatable at the gutter in front of our home and the entrance to our local park. It seems as though it senses momentary overload and then switches off, rather than maintain maximal torque to give the rider some chance of recovery. It makes Handlebars very dangerous to use, as it is not simple to hop off the platform and leave the MiniPro to right itself. I was hoping that downgrading my latest firmware to v 1.1.7 might reduce the problems, as Ninebot seem to have downgraded the peak current ratings on the latest batteries. But I have no solution, except to wear protective helmet and clothing... My wife is thrown less often at the same obstacles, and since she weighs less than I do, that led me to suspect maybe a peak-current limiting problem... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo33 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Ninebot has never made any real improvements on firmwares One can take as an example the problem of "runaway" that's when the Mini continues to run at full speed after a fall It seems that the video showing the wheel lock could have made me believe that this problem was solved This is not the case... I also have problems with the follow-me mode, antena is fragile, with all the shocks and shocks, after a while it has a direct effect Segway Ninebot is preparing the arrival of LOOMO in China, by recruiting dedicated personnel I do not think there will be improvements to the Mini PLUS, It must be understood that for the past two years, all the opinions of Mini buyers abroad have no value in the eyes of Ninebot China Especially when opinions are expressed by off-line buyers There is only one solution, it is the buyers of Mini Chinese, who, they make the weight and are heard Segway Ninebot Mini products are disposable luxury products Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo33 Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 On 6/29/2018 at 12:54 AM, Boogieman said: What does NOT WORK is the follow me mode 14 minutes ago, jojo33 said: I also have problems with the follow-me mode My FOLLOW-ME mode was no longer responding. After a shock, just now I turned off the Mini, I removed the cover of the stand, and I unplugged the connector I turned on the Mini Then I turned it off again I reconnected the connector Turned on, now follow-me mode works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogieman Posted May 13, 2019 Author Share Posted May 13, 2019 On 6/30/2018 at 5:39 PM, jojo33 said: My FOLLOW-ME mode was no longer responding. After a shock, just now I turned off the Mini, I removed the cover of the stand, and I unplugged the connector I turned on the Mini Then I turned it off again I reconnected the connector Turned on, now follow-me mode works Thanks for the info. Good for problem solving. I have sealed this connector with electrical tape from the start as I found to be in a very bad position for moisture if it rains, so its unlikely to have contact issues. My follow me mode "kind of works" - maybe I should have written "does not work WELL", so in my case I thinks its rather an issue of the "old fw" that I am still on. Still have not found out if the later firmwares solves the cutout issue, so until then I stay on the OLD FW. Thanks Boogie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rider6 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 mine n4m350 came with 1.1.9 should i upgrade? how long can i leave n4m350 in locked position? will something overheat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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