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Guinea pig time! I am excited to share with the forum that the knobbiest EUC knobby tyre I have ever seen has been shipped out and is on its way to me. If all goes well, this is supposed to fit a 16x or Nikola. Was wondering if the tire/tyre wizards out here in this forum can share what to expect in terms of reduced mileage and traction on smooth surfaces.
Having already owned a Tesla 1020 Wh, I recently purchased an MSuper V3s+ 1600 Wh with the Tesla Motor because I wanted the 1600 Wh battery for longer rides and the 18-inch diameter wheel for trail riding. I bought the Tesla from Jason McNeil at EWheels.com (https://www.ewheels.com/product/new-gotway-tesla-16-1020wh-1900w-motor/), who always has AWESOME customer service and support. I bought the MSuper V3S+ with Tesla Engine from Chen at AliExpress.com (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Latest-upgrade-Gotway-Msuper3S-1600WH-84V-Life-150KM-the-maximum-speed-of-55KM-H-the-fastest/32832913078.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.W2jVF1) only because Jason didn’t have that particular model in stock at the time. My experience with Chen was very good and I received my wheel on the East Coast of the US, about 11 days after ordering it online. So, that was also a good buying experience. I bought my wheel from Chen for $1,781 … the price on the website now is $2,380 … so wait for the price to go down, or try to convince Jason to carry it at EWheels. Truth in advertising, I have not cracked open the case of my MSuper V3s+ to see if the motor is the Tesla motor, but with the ride setting set to “sport” mode on the MSuper V3s+ the pedals are incredibly stiff and it feels like the Tesla with a lot of raw power and responsiveness. After putting about 300 miles on my Tesla and about 100 miles on the MSuper V3s+, I figured I’d write a review and let folks know my thoughts. BOTTOM LINE UP FRONT Both wheels are awesome! If I could only have ONE wheel I’d take the 1600 Wh MSuper V3S+ with Tesla Motor, but that’s primarily for the extended range and versatility of being able to take the wheel on street and trails without issue. RIDE CHARACTERISTICS Both wheels ride and handle very differently and the closest analogy I can think of is the difference between my road bike and my mountain bike. The Tesla is definitely a road bike. It handles incredibly well on the streets, with powerful and smooth acceleration and plenty of top end range to power out of situations quickly. The taller case sits higher on my calf, just below my knees and allows me to grip the wheel more securely and feels more stable when accelerating or braking quickly, or when turning at high speeds. The Tesla feels more fluid and silky smooth on the street and is my favorite wheel by far on the road, hands down, no contest. The MSuper V3s+, in my opinion, is like my mountain bike. It handles fine on the street. You can travel at a good speed and it has good acceleration, and like the Tesla has plenty of top end range left to power out of situations. But, I must say that 25 mph on the MSuper V3s+ feels like more work and less stable than 25 mph on the Tesla, where speed is deceptive and you often don’t realize you’re traveling as fast as you actually are. The case on the MSuper V3s+ is not as tall as the Tesla, so I find that I accelerate a little bit slower because of my inability to control the wheel at a higher angle, and I find that turning at high speeds is significantly more difficult. Of note, the pedal dip on the MSuper V3s+ during turns is significantly more pronounced than the Tesla, which is probably a function of the different control boards between the two models. The pedal dip on the MSuper V3s+ is annoying and I much prefer the way the Tesla handles in that regard. Whereas with the Tesla I can grip the wheel just below the knees and lean my whole body into the turn like you see motorcycle riders do on the track, I can’t do that with the MSuper V3s+ (at least not yet) and that’s with over 100 miles on the wheel. I can still turn at a decent speed, but the handling characteristics of the MSuper V3s+ are much different than the Tesla. I’ve also found that I much prefer riding the MSuper V3s+ with the ride setting set to “medium” mode vice “sport” mode, whereas my Tesla stays in “sport” mode. ON THE TRAILS On the East Coast where I live we have a lot of wooded single-track trails. Lots of tree roots and ruts and only small hill climbs with 30 – 45-degree angles for no more than 50 – 150 ft elevations. Rides are through the woods with no real rocks or significant hills of which to speak. In both cases, both the Tesla and MSuper V3S+ can handle the trails, but the design of the MSuper V3s+ is so much better on the trails, that I’m never taking my Tesla through the woods again. The larger diameter wheel of the MSuper V3s+ smooths out bumps and tree roots and the fact that the front and back of the wheel are exposed and not hidden behind a case or plastic mud guard means the wheel can really attack uphill and downhill terrain with ease. Also, the lower case of the MSuper V3s+ makes it significantly nimbler in closed quarters, despite the larger 18-inch wheel diameter. I can turn the MSuper V3s+ on a dime at low speeds, but have more difficulty with the Tesla because of the higher case on the Tesla. As far as performance, with the Tesla engine in the MSuper V3S+, I can fly up hills while accelerating and keep up with mountain bikers on the trails with no issue. I had more fun hitting the trails on the MSuper V3s+ than I do with my mountain bike! FINAL THOUGHTS While both wheels are amazing, the overall versatility of the 1600 Wh MSuper V3s+ with the Telsa motor makes it the clear winner if you’re only going to have one wheel. But, if you’re the type of person who has a mountain bike and a rode bike because you don’t want to compromise on either experience, then I highly recommend getting the Tesla as your “road wheel” and the MSuper V3s+ as your “mountain wheel” and let them excel within their respective terrains. You will not be disappointed!
Anybody around ever want to ever meet up and go riding let me know! I'm always game and with a schedule that is my own any day it's a good day to ride.... I just never have written with anybody other than myself it'd be nice to share the experience sometime. Lemme know! Mike 347)707-6688 -cell in case I don't remember to check this.
Calling all Bay Area riders, we are having another ride this Sunday January 17th at Stanford University. Meet up time is 2:30pm at Stanford Oval. We will be riding around the many trails that Stanford University has as well as riding around Palo Alto and maybe grabbing a bite to eat along the many restaurants along University Avenue. I have our link on Facebook, https://www.facebook.com/groups/621491334621039/permalink/657699887666850/ There are many more rides being planned if you can't make this ride. I will be working with @SuperSport and @BotCali for more rides in the future. Please join our group if you are in the Northern part of California.