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  1. I've been noticing that the light on my Ninebot S2 charger never turns green as it should when the charge reaches 100%... It is not a big deal, but I am afraid to fry my batteries. Suggestions?
  2. Last updated: 17 January 2020 Dear fellow riders, as some of you may already know, I'm the guy responsible for EUC World application and online service Whole story began at the beginning of 2019 when I forked WheelLog sources and decided to add some features I missed. One of such features was possibility to track my rides in similar way Strava, Endomondo or Wikiloc works, but with complete wheel telemetry. You know, I wanted to cross my country from northern to southern border, allow my friends to watch me live on the map and show the rest of world that EUCs are not toys Of course even vastly improved WheelLog was not enough, as I needed some online service to save and share my tours with others. I created it and named "World of electric unicycles" and in fact it soon became a real world of electric unicycles - just take a look at the main map I have chosen WheelLog sources as a foundation and initially I just wanted to add features that were useful during my riding. In particular voice announcements and alarms. Really, you should try speed alerts with Bluetooth earphones or helmet comm set! Wind noise will no longer be an issue to hear that you exceeded your preset speed, EUC is near to overheating or just overloaded and faceplant may be iminent. If you love long rides, you'll benefit from periodical speech reports about battery state, mainboard temperature, distance already travelled, time of your ride, average speed etc. I also added other languages thanks to @koto, @ArqFG, @andress, @George Iliev, @Lefteris, @fabio70mi, @travsformation, @Hansolo, @Tazarinho, @DjPanJan and other contributors. Now EUC World has been almost completely rewritten, becoming a completely independent application. Currently EUC World supports following languages: English Catalan Czech French Polish Russian Spanish Bulgarian, Brazilian Portugese, Dutch, Greek, Italian are partially supported (would you like to make updates?) Supported wheels: Gotway (all current models) Inmotion (all current models) King Song (all current models) Ninebot One E+, One S2, Z6, Z8 and Z10 Rockwheel GT16 Solowheel Glide 2 and Glide 3 Supported watches: Android Wear 1.4 and later Wear OS Pebble (using WheelLog watch app) SELECTED EUC WORLD APPLICATION FEATURES NEW IN 1.0.9 Full Gotway support, including calibration, side LED control and tiltback setting up to 75 km/h (may be limited by the wheel). NEW IN 1.0.9 Enforce regulatory compliance action, allowing for simple and quick limiting wheel speed to 20 km/h to be compliant with local regulations. This action, as with other custom actions, can be assiged to Flic button, smartwatch button/screen tap or phone screen tap (works with King Song, Gotway and Inmotion wheels). NEW IN 1.0.9 New custom actions, allowing for easy start/stop/pause/resume tour tracking, start/stop CSV logging, lock/unlock wheel, turn off wheel etc. NEW IN 1.0.9 Speed prealarm, allowing to change low priority speed alarm to prealarm. In this mode there is only repeating beep, there is no "Slow down!" voice warning and when listening to the music, volume is not lowered. NEW IN 1.0.9 Persistent headlamp mode, allowing to remember headlamp mode and restore it on subsequent application start (works with King Song and Gotway wheels). Full King Song support, including speed unlocking, calibration and firmware update. Flic 2 button support - Flic app is no longer needed. Flic 2 has better range, battery longevity and is more reliable that older Flic. CSV logs synchronization with euc.world account, allowing you to safely backup your logs on euc.world server. It also allows you to create tours offline and use data analysis tools. Heart rate monitoring, allowing you to display/hear your current heart rate and also include it during tour tracking or CSV logging. Tour tracking with complete telemetry Speech alarms and prompts - now you can pair your built-in BT speakers, earphones or helmet comm set with your phone and get instant voice alerts, prompts and reports. Wind noise will no longer be a problem and you won't any beep when going over predefined speed. Beeps and voice messages will let you know that you're approaching your wheel limits. User friendly interface - completely reworked and much more friendly user interface, giving more valuable invormations and with better contrast to improve visibility and save your phone battery. Flic button to easy activation of custom actions - now you can pair a small, wireless button with your phone and use it to activate horn, toggle lights in your EUC or get voice message with current riding parameters. You can get your Flic button here. Both Flic and Flic 2 are supported. Motherboard/MOSFET/motor load monitoring - load gauge lets you instantly check how much current is drawn from or put into the battery. If you're agressive rider this feature will let you know when you're near or over predefined load limits of your wheel. Improved overcurrent alarms - now you can have two independent alarms. One for peak value that will let you detect short, large current spikes (eg. during rapid acceleration). Another alarm is for "filtered", sustained current value. This way you can avoid situations when elevated current values may cause mainboard or wiring failure. Overvoltage/overcharge alarm - we all know that during braking or riding downhill our wheels enter regeneration mode. In some cases this may lead to battery overcharging resulting in cutout or battery failure if occurs too often and unnoticed. Now you can get alarm when your battery voltage approaches goes beyond safe limit. Extensive statistics - detailed ride statistics will let you know more about how your wheel rides, how your riding style affects energy efficiency, what power is needed etc. Wear OS (Android Wear) watch support - now you can get almost the same information just on your wrist with Wear OS watch companion app. You can also activate custom actions from your watch, just like when tapping your phone main screen or pressing Flic button. You can also start, pause, resume or finish tour tracking. Watch will also vibrate when any of the alarms is active. Custom horn sounds - you can select any sound from your phone to be used as a horn sound. More, you can have different sounds for Wear OS watch, Pebble watch (yes, they can work in paralell!), main screen tap and Flic button. Picture-in-picture and split-screen support - with Android 8 and newer you can benefit from "piecture-in-picture" and "split-screen" mode. Even if EUC World is in background and you have to switch to desktop or another application, small gauge with most important informations will still be displayed in small window. In split-screen you can display two apps simultaneously. WORLD OF ELECTRIC UNICYCLES - TRACK, ANALYZE AND SHARE YOUR RIDES EUC World allows you to record your rides including your wheel telemetry data. By default, saved routes are not visible to others. You can share them with others (friends, family etc.) by sending them a link. You can also make some routes available to everyone, so they will be visible on the main page and from your signature image. You tour can be live during your epic rides! Euc.world is a great and free alternative to Endomondo or Strava, as it allows you to document your rides along with detailed wheel telemetry (wheel speed, battery charge, voltage, current, power etc.). You don't need to be connected with your wheel to record your rides. Even if your wheel is not supported by EUC World yet, app may still act as a normal GPS tracker. In this case wheel data won't be recorded along your track - that's the only limitation. You can also add photos to your ride. Euc.world online service will be significantly extended withing next weeks. Users will be able to store their CSV logs under their account and will be able to download them or view with my http://wheellogviewer.net/ tool that will be improved and integrated with euc.world. Also some extended statistics will be available for users. HOW TO START USING EUC WORLD APPLICATION AND ONLINE SERVICE? Get your application from Google Play or visit https://euc.world/getapplication Sing up with https://euc.world to create free account. Sign up in EUC World app with credentials used to sign up in previous step. Setup your EUC World according to your preferences. Start riding and enjoy you new app! Last, but not least - don't forget to give me some feedback so I can push this project in right direction. I'd kindly ask you for one thing... If you are going on an interesting route, think about making it visible to everyone. The idea that guided me when I created euc.world online service was to show other people interesting places where you can get on an electric unicycle. So if it doesn't affect your privacy, think about recording some routes in public mode. Add interesting photos, let others see the beauty of the places where you ride on one wheel. This is one of ways we can popularize EUCs. We can show that EUC riders are everywhere! And remember - you can also change visibility. Just log to your account, enter the tour you would like to edit and from "Tour" menu select desired visibility. This way you can make the tour hidden or reverse - one of your beatutiful private tours make visible to everyone!
  3. Yesterday Ninebot China presented its new model of GoKart, already that the first was successful, this one is even better. It will be accompanied by a new model of mini Pro called, (we invent nothing) the Max Price around 8 998 rmb 1 148 euros or 1 261 dollars US Design level, still very beautiful, technical level we will reach 37KmH 22MpH More about specs , photos etc Album Google Photo A video
  4. Hello readers and riders! I apologize for my English, if it has any errors. First of all, let me introduce myself: My name is Ilya, I'm the iOS Developer since 2009. Also I have Ninebot One E since April 2015. Then I decided to combine these skills into my new app - DarknessBot. The application is available only for iOS 10.0 and higher. Ninebot haven't presented any official APIs yet, so I cooperated with the GyroMetrics developer - Paco Gorina (special thanks for helping with Ninebot BLE protocol) The application from the active EUC owners! It supports the following models: ► Ninebot (One C/C+/E/E+/P/A1/S2/Z6/Z8/Z10, Segway C/E/P/R/T, Mini, Mini Pro, Mini Plus, KickScooter) ► Inmotion (V3, V3C, V3S, V3Pro, V5, V5+, V5F, V8, V8F, V10, V10F, R1, R2, L6, L8) ▶ Solowheel (Glide 3) ► Gotway (MTen2, MTen3, MCM4, MCM5, ACM, MSuper V3/X, Monster, Tesla, Nikola). ► KingSong (14, 14S, 16, 16S, 16X, 18, 18L, 18S, 18XL, N8, N10). ► Rockwheel (GT14, GT16) ► Xiaomi (M365, M365 Pro) (BLE version 0.9.1 or prior) Features: Application for free, but it has a few paid functions. So I provide 40 promocodes for this forum. Promocodes Download from Appstore Telegram chat
  5. https://www.mini-j.world/accueil/actualites-mini/new-segway-ninebot-euc/ SPECS Weight Z10 = 22kg 48lbs ninebot one z 18寸宽版 1200w 35速 580wh ¥4999. 1500w 40速 860wh ¥7999. 1800w 45速 1000wh ¥9999. Z6 TOP SPEED 35 KMH BATTERY 574WH MOTOR 1200W CHARGE NOMINALE 40-55KM 150KG ANGLE D ESCALADE/ANGLE CLIMB 20° Z8 second modele name is DARK NIGHT TOP SPEED 40 KMH BATTERY 862WH MOTOR 1500W CHARGE NOMINALE 60-80KM 150KG ANGLE D ESCALADE/ANGLE CLIMB 25° z10 final fantasy TOP SPEED 45KMH BATTERY 1000WH MOTOR 1800W CHARGE NOMINALE 80-100KM 150KG ANGLE D ESCALADE/ANGLE CLIMB 25°
  6. Hi all, I bought a Ninebot One E+ this week end and I just started riding. I'm still falling But I get better. Anyone around Brussels or Brabant, Belgium ? I speak English/French fluently + some decent Dutch. Don't hesitate to contact me on the forum or via private message.
  7. Firmware is altered in a way not intended by the manudacturer and especially alters safety features implemented by the manufacturer. Hello everyone, I create this topic to share with you results of my tests with a Z10 whose top speed has been unlocked at 56 km/h thanks to the superb work of @MRN76 and its magnificent APP NINETOOL ! A big thank you to him for this life-changing performance! First of all i'm not crazy and I ride fully equipped with good motocross protection : A Full face Motocross helmet A motorcycle jacket with integrated protection Shin guards GyroRiderz Full Finger Gloves with integrated Wrists protection And I also have good accessories : A wrist mirror A blinker on the back That being said, let's begin. After 2 days of testing, I enjoy riding in a Z10 even more, which I didn't think was possible because I love riding with this wheel so much, and coming out of an INMOTION V8 it wasn't easy, though. The wheel behaves extremely well at a constant speed of 45km/h, it is a delight to be able to drive at 40-45 without tiltback and no longer have this big speed limit just dropped to 65% of remaining range. For the moment I have not yet exceeded 50 because between 47 and 49, I feel the loss of the feeling of not being able to fall (I think that those who ride in Z10 must understand what I am talking about, because it is not easy to describe as a feeling) Once the 45km/h is reached, you have to lean much further forward to accelerate and I feel that the wheel tends to lean slightly forward instead of staying straight. That said, it may be because of bad tire pressure. So I'm going to test with some different pressures to see if it improves things. Here, for this first recap, I'll post from time to time when I've done some more tests, on battery consumption etc.... Until then, have a good ride, everyone!
  8. Hello all, I'm disppointed with my ES2. I hadn't used it since february, so before stocking it, I charged it to 99%, then stocked it inside my house (not garage or elsewhere, so ambiant temp). Yesterday, I grab it and power it up, screen and ios app says 20% battery, so I charge it. When Battery hits 30%, ios app says "there is an update of bluetooth and other thing I don't remember", I clicked on "Update". The update went fine, the scooter shut down itself after update, like the app said, and I power it up without problems. When the battery hit 51%, ios app sent me a notification saying that battery was hot (scooter was charging inside my house, with AC on and 23°C ambiant temp) and it shutdown itself (and the led change to green on charger). Since this moment, It's hell. I managed to get it powered on once, I even used it in my house (to check if it worked), then charges back, battery hit 57% then ES2 died. From this point, pushing power button do nothing, except once in a while the screen power on and instantly power off. Charger stay on green. I checked if cable melted and no, they are like new. The scooter has only 120km done, so it's like it's new >< If someone can help... Big thank!
  9. I am helping sell my coworker's Ninebot One E+. He recent got a used V1 Monster in addition to his Ninebot Z10 so now he got to let this one go or his wife will get him . This is a learner wheel so it has all the battle scars one should expect. He learned on it and was nice enough to let me learn on it when I first started. Attached are pics of EUCworld and Ninebot App for mileage. My fiancee is currently practicing on it so mileage can be up slightly. I will update for the potential buyer. http://imgur.com/a/ycFyTOX Wheel pics https://imgur.com/a/p5nKLjj Included is stock charger. Local sale with cash only please. Battery still charges to 100%. Let me know if there is any other info needed. Price drop $300 -> $275
  10. Hi All! As I promised to myself i worked hard to develop this app. This is the latest version. AVAILABLE SPEEDS: -One battery from 16 to 24 Km/h -Two batteries from 22 to 30 Km/h. Items needed: 0) A Ninebot A1 or A1+ or S1 or S2 (with a quite recent firmware); 1) J-Link (clone too) to connect and download original firmware; 2) Few soldering skills to connect J-Link to Ninebot; 3) A backup of your original firmware! I won't do it!; 4) This software to modify your original firmware. You can find full tutorial below. Please send me other Ninebot binary files to increase the compatibility of my app. And remember... I WORKED HARD, and I want to make it better and to make it compatible with your device, so please be GENEROUS... ? By clicking on KO-FI you can donate... Think how you would have paid to have your speed increased... ? Feel free to suggestions, big mistake patches, and anything else! Any feedback appreciated. Goodnight! GM Please remember to like me, or love me if you feel it! ? Speed2Increase120.zip
  11. When Ninebot released the Mini Lite, intended for children, perhaps the success was not there. The specs of the Mini Lite being similar to the specs of the Mini S / N3M240, in terms of power and autonomy but with a more minimalist design On May 13, Ninebot presented its "Nano" model. Then it was officially released on children's day in China. Presumably Ninebot has worked hard on a model that adopts an ergonomic design more suitable for children. And it seems very successful! It is a waterproof and impact resistant model, during its presentation it was immersed in water and fell more than a meter, the Nano was still operational. Its particularity lies in a voice assistant which replaces at any time the warning messages that we have with the application. This voice coming out of the waterproof and bluetooth speaker of the Nano, accompanies the child as well in learning during the tutorial as throughout a journey with voice reminders depending on the situation (speed limit, reverse, low battery, ect). The speaker also allows you to listen to your own music. The speed is limited according to three driving modes: safety mode is 7 km / h, novice mode is 10 km / h and sport mode is 14 km / h. Autonomy announced of 13 km As a kickstand, there is a reinforcement of the steering shaft cover, allowing the tilt of the Nano to place it properly. The handles are thicker Price of versions The standard version is pre-sold at 1399 yuan or 182 euros / 197 dollars Super Flying Edition is pre-sold at 1599 or 208 euros / 225 dollars Car n ° 9 Nano is available in white, pink, blue and to color yourself. Pictures, specsheet and more into my Google Photo Album A video
  12. Another excellent write-up by @EcoDrift (via Google Translate) regarding all the QC issue of recent Ninebot One Z manufacturing (including references to our very own North American superdealer @Jason McNeil ) https://ecodrift.ru/2019/02/12/ninebot-z10-chastaya-polomka/ Ninebot Z10. One of the frequent breakdowns. I tried to collect material on the pre-sale preparation and maintenance of the monowheels. But my attention was attracted by the open Ninebot Z10. He asked what happened to him, but it turned out that this is a sad whole story, which I will tell you today. After the start of sales, Ninebot Z-series monowheels unexpectedly turned out to be leaders in the number of warranty calls. Wheels directly out of the box often do not turn on, as the battery protection works. Our very first wheel didn’t turn on that way. But I came across a wheel with another problem. It clearly looks like a Facebook user (click). The wheel walks back and forth and does not really hold the horizon. I just caught the wheel disassembled: The following problem is visible on the controller: Contacts burned at current sensors: What have two. These current sensors are Hall effect and they are designed for a very high current. Such sensors (designed for high current) were detected only in Ninebot (in Gotway, sensors are connected via current-lowering resistors and have much more modest parameters). Service engineers immediately said that this is a frequent problem of the Z-series. And for example, dragged another Z10, whose contact burned down only on one sensor: You can see that the sensor on the left side feels fine: The guys from the service center tried to restore the burnt track on this wheel. After that, the wheel goes normally, but if it is on it try to drive into a small curb from the spot and everything repeats. The problem can be anywhere, but the simplest thing is to just take a new controller. Rather, the board with the power part: To check how much this “repair” really helps, I decided to check with our American colleague Jason McNeil. He is the owner of the portal eWheels.com and has sold quite a lot of Z-series monowheels. Jason confirmed that it is enough to replace one lower board and the problem does not recur. The same sensors on the new board: The reverse side of the new board (the controller is diluted on an aluminum substrate): So the repair is very simple. Disconnect all wires. Remove the fee: Thermal grease on the old board: We connect new, we connect everything back: And the wheel works great: But I decided to ask Jason about the situation with the Z-series: how often they break and how many of them have a marriage. Jason was very emotional, because from Z10 he decently boiling. Jason wants to sue Ninebot for non-compliance with its obligations and for the poor quality of the Z-series. Marriage was abound. As a percentage, this is at least 20% of all devices sold. The problem of current sensors can lead to melted wires of the phases and even burnout of the controller. And of course, enough battery problems. As a result, Jason's opinion about the Z-series in particular, and Ninebot in general, is just a piece of garbage. Sheer frustration. For the comfort of users, it remains only to add that the overwhelming majority of problems arise at the start of operation. Approximately the first 50km and a pair of first charge cycles. If the wheel has passed the initial stage, the probability decreases to very low.
  13. I told them that the children playing games broke the gx12 connector of the gokart. I have obtained the connector but I do not know the sequence to solder them on the pins. The colors are yellow, blue and black. In addition to a thicker black that is connected to the chassis. I hope they could help me to identify the colors that correspond to each of the pins
  14. My boys and I in denver summer 2016. They picked it up quickly and I'm always bragging on them. It's a great time with family.
  15. And here I hear you shouting at me... when i answer "There are not any" Mini PLUS N4M340= Chinese market, branded MIJIA & Mini PLUS N4M350= World market branded SEGWAY Remember... XIAOMI invested in startup companies (Ninebot, Fimi etc...)with the help of, Sequoia Capital , is an American venture capital firm who invest in technolgy innovation., and have a Chinese branch, Sequoia Capital China who has invested into Ninebot. The EUC Ninebot One (2015) did not benefit from the Segway patents, it is from the Ninebot S2 that the Segway patents are used in the Ninebot technology. The Mini N3M240, N3M260, N3M320 have Segway technology, inspired by Ninebot's first personal transporter. ***** There are no two manufacturing plants for the Mini, one for the N4M340 and the other for the N4M350, the Mini Plus N4M340 & N4M350 are manufactured in the same factory. Whenever Ninebot releases a product, it immediately has FCC certification The Mini N3M240, which many believe is exclusively reserved for China, was in fact allowed, as soon as it was released in China, to be sold, marketed all over the world. The N3M240 was mentioned with N3M320 in FCC authorization. There is not a different firmware for the Chinese version or the World version There are only two elements that differ from the Chinese version: the charger and the packaging The charger American charger is in 2A (please look user manual, charger specs http://www.segway.com/media/2271/25521-00001_ab-miniplus-user-manual-en.pdf or european like Netherland http://nl-nl.segway.com/getmedia/1d7ef6e2-ff02-499e-84ae-0d5d5759690e/miniPLUS-UM-EN-FR-DU-IT-SP-2017-07-26.pdf.aspx?ext=.pdf) Chinese charger is in 1.5A That's all ! "And the speed!" You will tell me... No, no....no...no! About the speed Chinese Mini PLUS N4M340 : max speed 18kmh World Mini PLUS N4M350 : max speed 20kmh Please, you must understand: when Ninebot says "maximum speed", 20kmh, it's not the cruising speed. 20kmh is the peak reached at the maximum speed With my Chinese version of Mini PLUS N4M340, i could reach up to 24kmh / 21kmh ..., but only 3 seconds ! I checked with an alternative running application in bike mode Segway- Ninebot is playing with people's words and understanding ! A future buyer sees on the Segway Ninebot N4M350's specsheet: "maximum speed 20kmh", he thinks " I can ride at 20kmh", but it's not a cruising speed, you can ride in cruising speed 17kmh, 18kmh, 19kmh and you can reach peaks of speed beyond 20kmh, but only a few seconds before the tiltback helps you brake, lower your speed. A future buyer sees on the Mijia Ninebot N4M340's specsheet "maximum speed 18kmh", he thinks " f*** i can only ride at 18kmh" but in reality he can ride in cruising speed 17kmh/18km/h/19kmh, like the N4M350, and can reach peaks of speed beyond 20kmh too. Since the cruising speed decreases with the use of the battery (driving attitude, outside temperatures, land, user's weight) never Ninebot will be able to mention a cruising speed ! Ninebot writes "maximum speed 20kmh: it forces the Mini to roll slower, cheating on the cruising speed, lowering it by 1 or 2 km / h it's a fraud in France this style of commercial argument and distorting the speed limit is considered a fraud towards the consumer.
  16. So back in the day most everyone of us rode the Ninebot One E+. No matter how hard I pushed the device at it's top speed despite the tilt back I was never able to get it to cut out. I did however manage to overlean the device by accelerating too hard. Was it my lack of skill back then to push my E+ beyond the max speed or is it that modern wheels don't have the same protection for riders to not reach cut out speed? Why can't the wheel just not permit the rider to go beyond a certain speed?
  17. Hi, Did anyone manage to get a Knee Controller (aka Knee Bar) from Ninebot as an accessory they can add to their PTR Elite?
  18. Hey all! I'm selling off my Z10, I've had it for around 5 months now, it was my first wheel and now that I'm more advanced, I know I want other things. Wheel still functions amazingly well, few little scuffs from learning on it. Super fun to ride. I'm in Melbourne, so unless buyer is willing to pay postage, it's local pickup/drop off only.
  19. Interesting, the new 1.1.7 BMS FW claims better/lesser vampire drain, but after leaving my Z10 unridden indoors for 1+ day (42 hours), I'm seeing what translates into .14V drop per day, roughly 1% per day.
  20. I have inadvertently collected some spare parts that I believe are mostly interchangeable between the Ninebot One C, C+, E, E+, and P models. Anyone want the whole lot? Does anyone want any single item or some items? Items crossed out have been sold and their associated pictures deleted. 340Wh battery, new, never used, made for the Ninebot One P. It should work with the previous Ninebot One models as well, although the Ninebot app may not recognize the extra battery capacity. I paid about $300 for this battery. (I had ordered a P model, but it was discontinued before I received it). 340Wh battery, new, never used, made for the Ninebot One P. (I have a second battery) Replacement charging port and wire. It also allows a battery to be charged outside of the wheel. Replacement charging port and wire. (I have a second one) Flathead and Phillips screwdriver pair that are perfect for removing the LED light ring and battery cover on a Ninebot One E+ and I assume the previous Ninebot One models as well. Vivitar hardshell zippered case that fits perfectly a spare 340Wh battery, with room for the two screwdrivers and charging ports. Includes a new foam insert that can be customized. Pair of Ninebot training wheels, which are for getting a better understanding of how a self balancing device operates, not to ride around with them installed, because turning isn't possible. Pair of light gray leg pads from a Ninebot One E+ with some visible wear and minor damage. Two new rolls of light green padding with two new rolls double-stick tape from 3M that came with a Ninebot One E+. European power supply cord, rounded two-prong, new, never used. Came with the purchase of an E+. Not for use in the U.S. Australian power supply cord, flattened three-prong , new, never used. Came with the purchase of an E+. Not for use in the U.S. Ninebot One E+ printed Quick start manual and warranty card Ninebot One S1 printed user manual and warranty card Top handle with the metal fitting at one end broken
  21. Sooo @cloudust beat me to the punch in posting my initial impressions YouTube vid on the forums here.... the Ninebot Z thirst is real! ? LOL First, as much as I always dole praise on @Jason McNeil of eWheels.com, I must do so again: Thank God we have you in the US as our local PEV dealer and thank you for so graciously agreeing to ship this demo Ninebot Z unit on a 4-city US tour to your loyal fan customer base. Call me biased, yes, but I cannot help it: I've been screwed over by enough Joe Schmo middle man EUC sellers and cold-shoulder-go-to-your-distributor EUC co's to know not to take YOU for granted (and for those who don't know, one of my long-drawn ordeals is what led me to Jason in the first place, helping me on a wheel issue where the wheel was never purchased from Jason/eWheels). I will post as much nuanced content as I can on the Z to this thread throughout the week we have the Z here in NYC, complete with my incoherent ramblings and self-manufactured terminologies! (not joking, they really could be incoherent, I'm running on 2-3 hours sleep, neglecting my day job as we speak, each day we have this wheel... ?) Catching everyone up to speed, I'm on Day 3 (approx. 50 miles in) of extensive daily city riding with the eWheels.com demo Z10 (trying to shake off the initial euphoria, as is the case with all new wheels). And please remember to keep in mind, these are my rider biases (if you don't know of me or can't read my signature on mobile): I ❤️ big & wide wheels. Bigger & wider the better! (err, maybe not as big as that DIY 26" KS18 of past cult fame) That said, I've owned (not simply tested) almost every size, shape, and major manufacturer EUC model now (see my sig), and that's on purpose, because you'll never truly know a wheel without putting in the mileage, all models are slightly-to-drastically different. I ride daily, rain or shine. My only walking comes in the form of running 3-10 miles a day. I'm not a hill or offroad guy. I live in the capitol of Flatland City, Urban America, New York fudgin' City. Besides, @Marty Backe does a fantastic job with that on his socials. You might have read, but I have weird theories on riding on every nook and cranny of my pedals with my feet (wide, offset, edges, tip-toes) or my butt (seated, yeah!) except the standard set-it-and-forget-it parallel 11's foot positioning. I want every bit of leverage and angle of bending / carving I can get out of every wheel I ride dammit! (I also realize this is not the case with most riders on this forum.) I am not the riskiest of risk-taking risky top speed EUC riders. Yes, I do occasionally hit 30mph maxes, but the stars and the moons have to align. My average speed in this city carving stop-and-go car traffic is ~26mph, 28-30mph for passing car speed. I am 175 lbs rider weight (working on getting that back to 165 lbs *smh), so probably just a smidge under 190 lbs with backpack weight. Now,.... Let's tackle some of the heavy-hitters right off the bat, shall we? Because that's really what everyone's itching to [somewhat] resolve/inform, right? (again, all my own opinions, feel free to agree with nothing I say because I have no clue what I'm talking about ??) ===================================== PART I The Main Attraction: 4.1" Wide 18" Ninebot-branded CST Tubeless Tire Shock Absorbing? Unfortunately, not as I would have hoped ?, especially being in a pothole-infested city like NYC. It's not terrible though, and being super wide at 4.1", as long as you're not hitting the kind of bumps that make you catch small air, the overall massive dense weight of the Z10 (more on that later) will plant you to the ground in a very stable manor. Any hint of air you catch though, is met with a very solid thud (no bounce back) that if you don't cushion with your knees can reverberate up your being. Letting out some of the air did help, and as we test ride more, I will possibly try deflating a bit more to see if this gains more absorption/bounce (no, I did not measure PSI, but it felt very much like the max rated 32 or higher out of the box). My theory: the culprit here is the tire composition (yes, those who know me, know I champion this subject). Being tubeless with thick consistency (not sure how much ratio of rubber there is in there), I think it's very reminiscent of how e-kick scooter folk hate solid rubber tires for the same lack of absorption you usually get with a pneumatic air tire, especially in the absence of proper suspension. Maneuverability? This is always tricky, because my comfort with turning / carving bigger wheels is not necessarily your comfort with turning / carving bigger wheels (if you even want to take an effort to [learn] doing so). As with all bigger diameter wheels in the 18"+ tire category, the common refrain is "use more upper body to turn". Well, considering the Z10 sports now a 4.1" wide, at least ~50% wider than most EUC tires made today (Even the 2.75" wide 22" Monster tire!), you might need more than just the usual increased upper body / hip twists to achieve deep carves (obviously, body dimension/physics dependent). For me, my feet are constantly moving and pivoting, sometimes hanging off the pedal at non-traditional angles, so I can achieve deep carves on the Z quite satisfactorily (yes, albeit with more body movement). But I can see how set-it-and-forget-it, close to the shell, parallel 11 feet, "I want the wheel to turn by itself" guys will say it's less maneuverable than smaller diameter wheels. The dense 55 lb wheel weight & short stubby OG Ninebot pedals also compound this I suspect. Stability? This is where the Z10 surprised me, and in a good way, the best way! (though we heard brief early reports of this quality in passing) Quite logically, the Z10 having a wider tire, though being slightly curved and not flat (like the OneWheel tire or a car tire) gives you a wider base, which equals more stability and more distance traveled falling one direction before rider-correcting to the opposite direction. Combined with the greater mass density, which contributes to a slower initial momentum, you can really (with proper technique) control this wheel at slower speeds to the point of crawling next to pedestrians, and switching pivot axis really quickly. While in motion, the wide combined with the mass equates into hugging the road over small bumps better, only catching air for the more jagged and bigger divots (though again, the dense rubber tire composition does not absorb shocks). Think of a boulder chasing Indiana Jones or something similar (am I dating myself? Lol) Acceleration / Braking Acceleration With the Z10, Ninebot has re-introduced hardness pedal sensitivity settings again from the One 16" series days ( @Tishawn Fahie had reminded me that they had removed this for the 14" S2/S1/A1 series for some unknown reason). This time, the settings are only from 0 to 4 (as opposed to I think the 16" series was 0-10), with 0 again being the hardest response. Unfortunately, this is not the top tier stiffness/hardness of a 0-setting 16" One or 14" S2, but I would equate the 0-setting Z10 to around slightly less hard a response than a sport-mode Gotway Tesla, and comparable or slightly harder than my Ride-Mode KS18S (was that the name of the hardest KS setting? haven't opened up my crappy KS app in ages Lol - still don't want to!). However, due to the mass, to really initiate from-rest acceleration, especially uphill, you need to swing more weight force into the Z10 pedals, almost reminiscent to the way you need to really swing the sport-mode MSuperV3 pedals to initiate acceleration from rest (albeit, with more resistance to the Z, not in that glidy, floaty, effortless Gotway thing the MSuperV3 & Monster motor do). In other words, the power and acceleration in the ballpark of other 2kW nominal motor models IS there (just below the 84V Gotways), but you have to work / lean for it more. Also, interestingly, though it takes time for me to gain trust with any new wheel, so far I was not able to overcurrent/overcharge (ie. fast acceleration uphill) the Z10, whereas I was able to do so on the V10F. Braking I think the Z10 is the first EUC where you can specifically select the braking behavior, called "Assisted-braking" in the app (see my Z10 Initial Impressions YouTube below). It's just a toggle between enabled and disabled. When enabled, leaning back to brake will have little tension, more swing. I guess this supposedly "assists" your braking, but I was never a fan of that feel (see MSuperV3, reportedly SoloWheel does/did this too), so I've been constantly toggling that feature off (the demo Z10 keeps forgetting just this one particular setting for some reason; they might have fixed this in the updated FW that the NB app keeps prompting me to update too, but I have bad memories of Ninebot One 16" Firmware-gate: Faceplanting of the Ninebots a couple(?) of years back, so we'll just keep ignoring that FW prompt, thank you very much!). So with the braking 'assist' turned off, braking is sufficiently hard IMHO, and every NYC rider who's been on the Z10 so far has agreed with me, FWIW. Heaviness I brought this up at the end of my Z10 Initial Impressions vid, but the Z10 has to be (might be wrong) the heaviest 18" EUC at ~55 lbs, and not packing a very efficient battery-to-wheel weight-ratio, as my KS18S with an extra 680Wh more battery is 4 lbs lighter. This heaviness factor is both a minus (obvious lifting implications) and plus (the aforementioned grounded/planted-ness for bumps) IMHO. Walk-up apartment residents and high heighted car trunk owners beware! Not really sure why this is, but my guess is the tubeless tire & motor weight (could be wrong). Alright, gonna part-by-part more impressions/observations + video content progressively on this thread, as this short analysis got dense real quick! If you stuck by this long, your Ninebot Z thirst is strong!
  22. ... sorry for dragging my feet on this last vid. Turns out teardown vids are really tough to try to make not boring *smh....
  23. Just Over 50 miles of usage. Purchased this wheel and the V10f at the same time. I'm keeping the V10F so the Z10 is now for sale. My asking price is $1700. Shipping is included. I can also ship internationally.
  24. Hi everyone, I'm about to start a new job and need to switch over to a longer range wheel so I'm selling my Z10. I'm in Culver City, California and would most likely look for a local buyer. $1000 picked up, otherwise we'll have to negotiate for shipping. Here's a list of what's in the box (not everything pictured): Z10 with 565 miles and zero issues Has scratches from the bumps and falls, no cracks or anything, original handle is still smooth and operational Z-Team pedals installed, original pedal plates and new sandpaper included for easy swap back Original Z10 box with charger, tools, booklets, etc. Wheel stand from EUC Army Leave a comment here or PM me for additional info / photos / whatever you need
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