Jump to content

Search the Community

Showing results for tags 'colorado'.



More search options

  • Search By Tags

    Type tags separated by commas.
  • Search By Author

Content Type


Forums

  • General Electric Unicycle Forums
    • Forum Rules (and topics relating to this forum)
    • General Discussion
    • Reviews
    • Mods, Repairs, & DIY
    • Riding Safety and Protective Gear
    • Local Group Meet Ups
    • Private Sales (secondhand)
    • Commercial Advertisements & Deals
    • Off Topic Discussion
  • Brand-Specific Forums (euc only)
    • Airwheel
    • Firewheel
    • Gotway
    • Inmotion
    • IPS
    • King Song
    • Ninebot
    • Rockwheel
    • Solowheel
    • Uniwheel
  • One-Wheeled Skateboards
    • One-Wheeled Skateboards
  • Two-Wheeled Self-Balancing PEVs
    • Hoverboard
    • Ninebot Mini, Segway MiniPRO, Xiaomi Mini, Airwheel S8 or equivalent
    • Segway (or equivalent)
  • Non-Self-Balancing PEVs
    • e-Scooters
    • Other Non-Self-Balancing PEVs

Find results in...

Find results that contain...


Date Created

  • Start

    End


Last Updated

  • Start

    End


Filter by number of...

Joined

  • Start

    End


Group


AIM


MSN


Website URL


ICQ


Yahoo


Jabber


Skype


Location


Interests

Found 1 result

  1. Today, an associate of mine has taken the Electric Unicycle to the Colorado Department of Revenue/Department of Motor Vehicles, with the purpose of discussing bringing legislation making EUCs legal vehicles within the State of Colorado. This associate is also interested in becoming a reseller, but they won't be doing so until they know that buyers wouldn't be fined or whatnot for riding said vehicles. We hope to act as spokespeople for EUCs within Colorado, and later, the nation as a whole. We're just... not sure on how to proceed. So, I'm looking for opinions in how we should continue, especially considering that Colorado is voting pretty soon (November 7th). But first, let me talk about how the laws for "Vehicles with three or less wheels" work. Specifically, none of them have 'one' wheel, but... let me just get into it. Mind you, all of these questions are legal, meaning Colorado's DMV questions them for any vehicle. The definitions are coming from their own slideshow on definitions, as well as the laws provided within. This can be found at: http://slideplayer.com/slide/3158826/ Does your vehicle have three or less wheels in contact with the ground? Yeah, one. Does your vehicle have a device connected to the front wheel(s) for steering such as, but not limited to, handlebars? No. But notice how they put the S in parentheses. Eh? Ehhhhh? Is your vehicle 1. self-propelled and designed 2. primarily for travel on the public highway and 3.generally used to carry a person or persons? 1.Yes. 2.No. 3.Yes. Is your vehicle equipped with: An internal combustion engine with a cylinder capacity more than 50cc? OR An electric motor with an output of more than 4,476 watts? No. Is your vehicle equipped with pedals for human power? No. Is your vehicle equipped with a manual clutch? No. Is your vehicle equipped with an electric motor with an output of 750 watts or less? This is where it gets interesting. Some of the smaller wheels meet this, but the larger wheels don't. Does your vehicle reach a maximum top motor-powered speed of 20 MPH? Again, see above. Is your vehicle equipped with two tandem wheels? No. Is your vehicle equipped with two parallel wheels in the back of the vehicle with one front wheel? No, this is not a tricycle. Is your vehicle equipped with two parallel wheels in the back of the vehicle with one front wheel? No. Is your vehicle equipped with an electric motor with an output of 750 watts or less? No. Does your vehicle reach a maximum top motor-powered speed of 20 MPH? Another good question, because some can, and some can't. Is your vehicle equipped with two tandem wheels? Note: Tandem means one wheel behind the other in a single-file line. No. Is your vehicle equipped with two parallel wheels in the back of the vehicle with one front wheel? Example: A standard tricycle configuration No. Is your vehicle equipped with An internal combustion engine with a cylinder capacity of 50cc or less? OR An electric motor with an output of 750 watts of electricity or less? Almost a repeat of a previous question, some do, some don't. Are the wheels of your vehicle at least 14 inches in outside diameter? This one is easier to answer. EUCs are rarely smaller than 12". Is your vehicle equipped with 1. two parallel wheels and 2.self-balancing? 1. No 2. Yes Is your vehicle designed to transport only one person? Yes. Are the wheels of your vehicle less than 14 inches in outside diameter? Questionable. END. So, let's take a look at what the standard definitions are, for vehicles with three or less wheels, and cross out anything that a EUC doesn't meet. Also, I'll list the required legalities. Motorcycle: Has handlebars, Has less than 3 wheels, is not classified as a Low Power Scooter. Requires: Drivers license, title/registration, insurance No handlebars, no Motorcycle Low Power Scooter: Designed for use on roadways (?), no more than three wheels, no manual clutch, and either 50cc or 4476 W engine/motor. Requires: License, ID stamp, registration, insurance "Designed for use on roadways" is difficult for any EUC to meet, as low power scooters, or Mopeds, have a usual top speed of 30 mph (45 kmh), and have rear-view mirrors. Otherwise, even the Gotway Monster meets these requirements. Electric Bike: Pedals, less than 750 W motor, top speed of 25 mph (40 kmh), either two tandem wheels or two parallel wheels and a forward wheel. Requires: Nothing No pedals, no bike. Bicycle: Pedals, either two tandem wheels or two parallel wheels and a forward wheel with no wheel larger than 14 inches (35.56cm) Requires: Nothing Even if having two to three wheels is a straight requirement, only 14" or less wheels would qualify, and none of those would be street capable. Even the fastest non-18" wheel I can think of, the Gotway Tesla, is a 16" wheel. Electric Personal Assistive Mobility Device (EPAMD): Self balancing, two parallel wheels, designed for one person, no more than 750 W motor. Requires: Nothing Again, it depends on whether having two wheels is a hard-and-fast rule, or whether it can be bent. Even then, only 14" wheels or less would have such small motors. And even then, many of those have 800 W motors. Toy Vehicle: Wheels no larger than 14" (35.56cm), not designed for roadways, Includes but is not limited to (gas-powered or electric powered vehicles commonly known as mini bikes, pocket bikes, kamikaze boards, go-peds, and stand-up scooters), does not include off-highway vehicles or snowmobiles. Requires: Nothing Most small wheels would fit this definition. The problem is that larger, 16" wheels and larger wouldn't. Therein lies the rub; Wheels 16" or larger cannot be defined by any of these definitions. Now, before I started studying Colorado law, I was going to put EUCs into two categories anyway; Toy and Small Vehicle. Now that I've done further investigation, I'm glad that the Toy Vehicle definition already exists, so those with the smaller classes of wheels already have legal precedent. Thus, the questions I want my associate to bring to the DMV are based around 16" and larger wheels. The way I see it, people use bikes all the time on roads that are mostly clear anyway, and will move to the side when a larger vehicle arrives. These sorts of roads are usually ~25-35 mph Speed Limit anyway. However, Low Power Scooters are allowed on streets 35 mph or less, and EPAMDs are not allowed on bike or pedestrian paths. I believe that this can be even more dangerous for EUC riders and others, as this would force the rider of a larger wheel to use a sidewalk, making it more likely for them to collide with a pedestrian, when a bike path (or an actual street) is available instead. (Which is of course solved by riding more slowly, but we're talking about legalities here.) CRS 42-4-1412 makes Electric Bikes and Mopeds follow the same rules as any other vehicle on the road, which I believe should be applied to larger wheels as well, if they are to be allowed to use the roads legally. I am okay with all EUCs being classified as Toy Vehicles for now, but I don't think that such a solution would be good for the community in general for very long. It only takes one lawsuit after a EUC-Pedestrian collision for the whole community to be demonized and the movement to be held down. And here's a personal anecdote from my associate. When they were about 13, they owned an electric scooter, top speed of ~12 mph (~19 kmh), when they were pulled over by a police officer. The cop told them, "You can't ride that on the sidewalk." Well, the scooter wasn't fast enough to ride on the street, but apparently too fast to be rode on the sidewalk? To which the cop replied, "I don't know, but you can't ride it here." Now, my associate still rode the scooter for the next two years before it broke down, but the fact remains, they could have been fined, arrested, etc. Of course, now, after this research, that scooter would have been classified as a Toy Vehicle, so the cop would have been wrong. Still, this is not something I want to have happen in my state, and something that I am willing to campaign for. So, there are most of my thoughts. Yours?
×