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    MSX 100v, Nikola +, Kingsong 16s, KS16x, Mten3, v3 Monster, Inmotion V8

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  1. The onewheel is a literal death trap. I've been riding PEVs for so long and my only major injury has been on the onewheel. I overpowered it at under manufacturers stated top speed and I'm only 140 lbs. The limits of this device are low. Additionally the design of it makes it easy for the foot pads to dig into things when going up hill. The sideways stance will always make sure you shoulder check the pavement at whatever speed you were riding at, hence the 1000s of broken collar bones. If you want to see horrific pictures, join onewheel crash group on facebook to see broken bones sticking out of skin, broken spines, people in hospital beds, etc. Yet they say it's all about the stoke and the float. If I try to say EUCs are safer and better, literally you will get a gang of people saying you look like a dork on an euc and they would never want to do that. In fact if you are on that facebook onewheel crash group, just search Marc Malik and see my post with 300+ comments saying how onewheel is better than EUC. Sadly I was one of these people blinded by the onewheel, until I discovered the EUC which is by far the safest PEV out. The larger tires, your weight being on top of the motor rather than in front/back of it, more powerful motors, bigger batteries, and more advanced warning mechanisms when approaching limits make it soooo much safer than a onewheel.
  2. Make sure all parameters in darkness bot are adjusted for your wheel. Voltage and battery size etc. i wouldn’t put it past Gotway to put a 2000w motor in there instead of 2500w. But that should be visibly not as thick. Additionally they need to use the appropriate firmware for the 2000w version. So if you do have the mss or whatever, it was made as an Mss and got mixed in? But this likely isn’t the case. What we do know is pro beeps in low 30s while the 2000w motor beeps at high 30s.
  3. Interesting, from feedback from a few sources beeps start 30-32 on newer 2500w motor vs high 30s on 2000w motor. I know you can take it up to 37 at your own risk but you should be at 80% motor capacity in low 30s. The mspro is the only wheel I haven’t tried personally yet though. I’d be a bit concerned about getting it as my street wheel since I’m so acclimated to the high speeds of the 100v MSX snd monster... I may push the pro too high and cause a cut out. Would like to know if anyone else besides you who didn’t get the 80% warning in low 30s on the pro..
  4. This is not what I have heard about the Pro. The beeps should come in at 32 ish. You sure you didn’t miss them?? 36-38 is cutout zone on the pro.
  5. And the cutouts keep happening, when will kingsong lower the limit here.
  6. Pedals dipped forward slowly and then very quickly after that. It seemed like it just ran out of power. I did not have any soft tiltback, and my hard tiltback was set to 50 so I cut off about 4-5 kph before that. I cannot attribute this to rider error, or at the very least I can say I would have never cut out on the MSX/Nikola riding the exact same way I was on the KS16x. I do know this wheel has cut out on others before, more than just what is shown on the forum. It is true that people use their heart when buying because despite a whole thread of kingsong 16X issues spanning multiple pages, this is one of the best selling wheels in the country. I still love this wheel, but there's some trust issues beyond certain speeds now. I have a new control board for it, which apparently according to @redfoxdude does not resolve the lack of power/dipping issue/potential cut out issue. Will I be brave enough to test that again? Likely not. The question is are you testing it for a pedal dip appropriately at higher speeds? Likely not because somewhere in your mind you know that there can potentially be a cut off and that will be preventing you from putting a bit of force in the ankle flick at higher speed (rightfully so).
  7. I got intentionally did the dipping in the video, but my cutout was unintentional. Just acceleration from 26 and at 27 ish it dipped and kept on dipping till I was on the floor ha. At this limit, you will be 100% okay. 40 km/h is no problem. KS 16X has already had a few hardware changes like a change in design in the control board, and I have a feeling their may be more.
  8. Do you have the newest control board? Or were you not able to dip the pedals even when you had your first batch control board?
  9. Easily, at 40 or below 100% ok. No pot holes involved, perfectly flat smooth road. No other issues with the wheel except that I’m able to dip pedals at higher speeds. But pretty certain same is case with you if you are brave enough to try. Flick your ankle quickly on ks16x at 45 or above and it will dip, flick it on the MSX and it will stay level.
  10. Well...all this explanation isn’t necessary. They should just lower the max to 25 mph. That would prevent cut outs for most people because at that speed it has enough power reserves. A Gotway 100v on the other hand will be fine at 30 mph. so yes there cannot be any well defined speed, but there can be a speed at which the motor and electronics are working below their spec and it’s safe to push it and not overwhelm it. Very little, I ride my Gotway 100v at less than 3 bar and can hit 30+ and push it with no cut outs or pedals dips even if I push hard. my beef with this wheel is...just lower the speed limit. It’s a 25 mph wheel, just like the v10F.
  11. When did you get your replacement control board again? The 3rd KS16X batch and newer design control boards are a recent thing in the US. If your KS16x was first or second batch (mine is 2nd), then it didn't have the updated control board. Because...for science. I still have to repeat it with the new control board and see if it persists. But really, kingsong should just limit the wheel to 25 ish mph rather than 30 mph. 30 PSI, perfectly good pressure for my weight. I was in experient/hard mode. Turn first and second alarm to zero. For 3 and 4 if you have 38 and 40k you will be fine. I had 49 and 50. Now I changed it to 40 and 42 for tilt back. I think even these are safe, and yours are more conservative so don't worry.
  12. Did you try to accelerate quick at higher speeds? Example going from 26-30 mph quickly? Did you try an ankle flick? If this happens, then issue is not solved. See two below:
  13. In all my time of riding EUCs and riding 10+ different EUCs, I've never experienced a cut out or a fall at such high speed. With the KS 16X I had a cut out at 27.8 mph, no beeps or tilt-back as I had those set to 29 mph and 30 mph respectively per the top speed listed by KS. Post cut off voltage was 77v. There really was no reason for a cut off here, I'm only 145 lbs and was riding at a sufficient battery (77v), temperature was around 50F, and I'm on the latest firmware 1.07. Cut out happened when I attempted to accelerate from 27 to 29 with a gentle push. I'm 100% okay with the exception of this road rash on left side where my jacket lifted up, second day and it's running it's cycle of healing. I'll be perfectly okay. Many thanks to Alpinestar motorcycle jacket/Klim K fifty 2 moto jeans/knox gloves. Just a flesh wound that will heal soon. Making this post as a PSA. On the KS16X recommend setting 3rd alarm to 40-42 km/h and tilt-back to around 43-45 km/hr. These are the max speeds kingsong should have advertised rather than trying to match the nikola. I'm also wondering another thing, will it cut out at slower speeds on a steep hill climb... There's another long thread on this here with someone who also cut out at a similar speed: https://forum.electricunicycle.org/topic/16436-ks16x-cutoffoverlean-29-30mph/ I will add that kingsong has new controllers that are a different design than the one I had on my second batch KS16X. Will this mean that the you actually will have power reserves at 25+ mph to avoid a cut out?? That I cannot say, but I won't be the one to attempt to push it once above 25 mph even if I put in the new controller. Or I might just sell the wheel, as I can't keep up with 100v gotway group rides.
  14. Do you still have the bluetooth speaker working? If so then you are all set.
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