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  1. If you ride on the pavement, you can get fined, but theoretically they cannot confiscate your wheel. On the other hand, on the road or on a cycling lane, the fine can be way higher and they can confiscate your wheel. So I am told; please double check. In any case, just avoid any contact with coppers, nothing good can be had from there unfortunately. They usually wear high-vis jackets, and mostly keep around the "cycling super highways" when trying to crack down on electric vehicles, so are not too hard to spot. Avoid the Battersea Park like plague, and Chelsea if at all possible. They must have special instructions there to be tough on PLEVs. Personnally I subscribed to an insurance in France with an address in France. The insurance reads valid in the whole of EU, though I am sure it is useless in the UK, especially after brexit. My intention is to play dumb innocent tourist, and produce it as a kind of justification of my good intentions, in case I get approached by the police. That won't fly very high though. If they stop you, do not argue too much; they have the law with them, eucs are illegal in the UK. You need to talk your way out of the situation quickly, which frankly is not too hard, but heavily depends on the individual case. Good luck
  2. I would do it the other way round: keep the small scooter and replace the big one with a big EUC. The big euc will generally be smaller than your big scooter. For example the gotway monster can do 70kph I think? not that I encourage that. This way you might end up ditching the small scooter as well Otherwise, if you really want to keep the big scooter and have an EUC, you should follow the usual advice: buy the euc with the biggest battery you can afford; generally that means more security, more range, more speed.
  3. Only two perfect strangers managed to try my wheel: a beautiful young lady whom I convinced to have a quick try, and a young drunk lad who needed to top up afterwards. I am not a good euc trainer so none of them got anything really useful from the experience anyway, but we both had a good time. Ish. I am happy to have an experienced user try my wheel in a group ride etc ... though Most of times people got scared off anyway: motorcycle gear, headphones on, being a member of ethnic minority, hiphop / hazy looks, bad english, whatever ...
  4. Thanks @PogArt Artur Yes they can increase their results / quotas easily with us commuters, we have a very predictable pattern Beware, crackdown on electric devices seems intensifying these days https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/nearly-100-electric-scooters-users-stopped-london/
  5. So unlucky That reminds me of what happened to me a few weeks ago in Bettersea Park in London ( at around 6h15 in the morning ): I was arriving at the barrier close to the zoo entrance, when this policewoman stepped in the way and told me to stop. So I did. She litterally told me there was a new law which prevented me from riding any electric vehicle there and in the streets, and that they have been waiting for me there because they knew I would as every day commute through the park. I played innocent and unaware of the "new" law. But I was ( and still am ) a bit scared they said they were waiting for me Some big head high up the hierarchy must have decided to enforce the law now; be careful people ...
  6. I ride all year with high mileage in the UK, lots of rain. I have the ks16s, 18xl and msx; so far no issue. Next time I have one of my wheel open, I might apply the products mentioned above though, just to be safer. Among the three wheels I've got, the one I fear most damage from water is the MSX because the water theoretically can sip through the trolley handles, the pcb is lower to the ground ( not 100% sure here ), and the shell is cracked. So I would say it might depend on your wheel as well.
  7. Actually the law is quite simple with regards riding an euc in the uk. The only allowed vehicles, on the roads, are cars/trucks, motorbikes and push bikes. And on the pavement, only pedestrians are allowed. Anything else is illegal. Exceptions are mobility scooters, for which I am not too sure what they can do / where they can ride, and some electric bicycles. (I'm not a lawyer though ) So for a police officer, it is not that difficult. But because that law is so inappropriate, POs have lots of leaway, and can exercise discretion, as said above. Thus kids are allowed everything, we are kind of tolerated, etc ... Hence we regularly see this kind of articles https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/police-share-images-of-seized-illegal-electric-scooters-a4153271.html
  8. I wouldn't make any judgement on any body's hobby or drug use. To each his own. I have used my wheel maybe 10 times after drinking quite heavily, for longish rides ( minimum half an hour). In most cases I fell unexpectedly, at slow speed, on well known paths, once or twice I was not wearing any protection. So for me, alcohol + wheel = catastrophe 😔 I can't, comment on coke etc.. Smoking weed hasn't been too bad so far, no fall that I can remember 😅 That said, I would not recommend riding under the influence, for many many many reasons, the least of all legal.
  9. Thanks a lot for that link. Hopefully it will get us in the right position. I am wondering if a petition at the EU level can have more impact?
  10. I am a regular visitor to the city of Amsterdam, Netherlands. Great bike infrastructure, great people, great weed. Last week, on a Saturday early morning, I was riding my MSX in a bike lane in front of Centraal Station, at a biking speed, the same as all the other push bikes, when this dude, a policeman on a motorbike, pulled me over and told me I cannot ride on the cycle lane because my wheel is a vehicle, and as such needs an insurance and registering. He also told me that I can ride on the pavement instead, but then started to worry about my speed limit. I told him my max speed is 15 km/h ( "what? 50km/h"? "no mr policeman, 15km/h". "Ah ok!" ). Then he took a picture of the wheel and asked what make it was. I made a mistake there and told him Gotway; should have made a name up. He did not take any of my details and let me go after I promised him I will take the public transport. All this to say, be careful guys with the law. London has also a police crackdown this week on electric scooters ( to protest against the climate change protesters I suppose ). Hopefully the EU or any other relevant authority will soon give us more hope to ride peacefully.
  11. According to https://eunicycles.eu/en/16-inch-wheels/134-king-song-ks-16x-1554wh.html the pedal height for 16x is 16cm, higher than the msx ( 14.5 cm according to http://shop.euc.nyc/MsuperX ? ). Does that look realistic? Edit: I see it is 18cm above. Lost now ... Edit2: msuper x is 16.5cm according to https://www.ewheels.com/product/new-gotway-msuper-x-msx-1600wh-battery-2000w-motor/ ?
  12. I suppose there are at least two schools: the ones who start to learn directly without a pole, fence, or wall, thus with one leg on the wheel then the other ( push scooter technique shall I say ?), and the ones who start with both legs on already ( fence technique? ). Ultimately you end up knowing to do both, but personally, I started with the push scooter technique then later found a fence to start with both feet on. It seems to me that starting from a fence ( or a friend's shoulder/hand etc ... ) is easier. What you are trying to do, in your kitchen, etc ... is the fence technique I suppose. I found this video before I learned, but had no fence available, so I ended up learning with the other technique: By the way, if at all possible, avoid learning in a kitchen, etc ..., it's way easier to learn when you have a large space like a parking lot for example: you will be able to go faster ( easier on the balance ) and can look ahead ( you will go where your sight goes )
  13. Same here, youtube was my only reference and guide. I wish there was an ultimate guide to euc riding No, I saw that video way later after I learned. I found it extraordinary that the trainee was able to ride after a few hours; I thought that would be inspirational and encourage new people to learn. The video that I used was Duf's I ended up learning to jump on the wheel by pushing it forward like a push scooter with one leg on then hopping the other leg, if that makes sense. A bit like in the first video above I think ( start the ride by having the wheel move forward from behind, as opposed to having it steady, jump, then lean to move forward ). Wrong technique overall? I hope after 6000km I will be able to re-learn the correct technique if someone can point me to the right direction.
  14. I wish I saw that video before I started learning to ride. Instead I had to discover, on my own, as a newbie, that I need to learn how to run off out of a situation. Agreed, the instructor should have spent much more time dissecting how to do that properly. And cleaning up the training area
  15. Yes, storms and cyclones are valid excuses good luck!
  16. I wouldn't bother with poles; you need to learn how to bail out when the wheel is not willing to cooperate. One of the first lessons people learn is to get off the wheel, see this video for example Otherwise, as usual, baby steps is the way to go: a few (micro, milli) seconds with at least one foot on the wheel, then a good walk or rest, then maybe a few (micro, milli) seconds again, then rest, etc ... The first day I learned, I must have: spent a whole day from 8am to 6pm dedicated to learning to ride my wheel spent at most one or two cumulated hours effectively with one foot on it ( I tried to put two feet on it only the following day ) lost 1litre of sweat ( in a temperate weather with lots of shadow everywhere ) because of the tension and the sollicitation of new muscle groups found the lamest excuse not to ride it ( "let's see if we can just walk alongside the wheel to that place over there", "let's go back home to drink", "let's wait for those people get passed first", etc ...) By the end of that day, I was still unable to ride, but I was not afraid anymore. I "owned" the f..g wheel.
  17. Thanks for sharing @Kuji Rolls Great video I'd rather they put a mudd friendlier tire, this one gives the impression it will be slippery on wet ground, a la msx. How high are the foot plates? I hope they are higher than the current ks16s and reach msx's height Why not put the XL pedals by default? The mudguard gives the impression it will work. At least, maybe less of an after fact decision. The lightings look fantastic! Best improvements ever, along with the battery capacity. Overall, I prefer this ks16x over the nikola. Between ks16x and ks18xl though, the choice will be tough.
  18. @Bernard Kudulis Most of the concerns you cite ( potholes, traffic, intersections, unexpected rain ) are easily dealt with with a bit of practice. The legal aspect is the main issue I think; riding an euc is definitely forbidden anywhere public in London and the UK. I would not advise breaking the law ( even though I ride in front of the Parliament and Scotland Yard every day ) As for the safety aspect, as you know, London is full of crazy drivers who kill hundreds of cyclists every year And then you have all the other issues: the weather ( not a big deal, our eucs are fairly weatherproof, but still .. ), the potholes, the stressed out fellow cyclists, etc ... So you are up against the world here, better stick with your car man!! Mind you, all this is valid for electric scooters ( and anything electric really ) as well: illegal, dangerous, etc ... For your use case, I wouldn't add this to the stress of dealing with the normal everyday business. Commuting to / from home is one thing, using an euc everywhere to meet customers is another thing. But, since you already are breaking the law and know how to ride in London, here you go: I needed a few weeks practice on my first wheel to feel confident enough and start commuting to the office ( 15 miles each way back then ) the ks16s has served me well commuting every day, rain or shine, and the msx looks promising as well. The msx offers no protection at all against water splashing against your back, a fender similar to this one is required, but is better at keeping your shoes dry, because of the pedal height Use motorbike vests like this one: good protection, weatherproof, and business friendly Practice off road if possible: good training for potholes, get the pleasure of riding as opposed to the boring commutes, etc .. Avoid crazy riding styles: swerving in traffic, speeding on pavements, etc ... The less attention you draw, the better for you and for us all Good luck and keep us updated
  19. @The Fat Unicyclist Any plan for gotway msx?
  20. My commute is 40miles/day, so I swapped my ks16s with an msx, because: - I then can afford to miss a few bumps or road imperfections. With the ks16s, they would throw me off, while with the msx's big fat tires, steep pedals and stiff ride, I always get back ok on the pedals; overall, the journey is less tiring, "no need" to scan too much ahead - the msx sourced on aliexpress was way cheaper than the 18xl bought directly in europe I never rode the v10f, but I would advise the 18xl or msx, especially in cold weather: bigger tires, bigger battery. Maybe get a second hand one? some people might sell theirs in order to get the new nikola? Long distance commute is not always pleasant, and can be dangerous. But so much more enjoyable than being enclosed in some car or train or whatever. Welcome to the club
  21. I bought a charge doctor for my kingsong ks16s, with a three pin plug at each end. I would like an adaptor so that the charge doctor can be used with gotway msuper x ( 4 pin plug ). Any idea where I can get one ( actually two, one at each end, I suppose ? ) without having to solder anything?
  22. Very good video @Hsiang, fun and informative. Almost everybody thinks EUCs are cool. But nobody rides them. Except those who can afford to; because of financial costs, health and overall risks. So the general public is sometimes aware, and when aware, is generally not hostile. If we want to change the demographics of our userbase, then more general public awareness is required, in order to increase our capital of sympathy. By taking the segway route ( get a big company, or a multitude of small ones, to invest in the market, and get the authorities to allow and accompany a wider adoption ), we are able to reduce the cost of adoption and increase the safety of the practice, and thus attract more and different people. Creating such a market requires a common set of norms and standards. Currenlty discussed at the European Union level: https://standards.cen.eu/dyn/www/f?p=204:110:0::::FSP_PROJECT,FSP_LANG_ID:40453,34&cs=1EAA033637508C79B4D7E753E16B8F8B2 . Sorry, in french. This is not enough, as we also need standards regarding other things like cycle lanes, insurance policies, cycle to work schemes, public transport rules, urban planifications, etc ... Once the playing field is well defined, then companies can compete, from inside the internal market or from outside ( with tariffs etc ... ) and provide the devices and services that consumers want.
  23. This depends on how things happened as well. If it is your son who came and asked the school authorities, then they have no choice but to advise against riding EUCs in Paris, since that is the law. Now, does that mean he is in trouble or can be in trouble? The answer in my opinion is no; french stundents are not expected to be very law abiding or more law abiding than any other citizen. In reality, university is where the youngsters are expected to question the laws, society and all that, in a "controlled" way ( through their studies, strikes, participation in political movements, etc ... ). Your son following the rules on euc that nobody else follows can be seen as a statement as well, in this context. Now, if it were the school authorities that saw him with the wheel, and told him to stop riding it, then that is another matter. In that case, you are right, better not oppose them in any way. My advice: - let him see with his new local friends if he wants to rebel by riding eucs. "Il faut bien que jeunesse se passe" is all the authorities will say, unless asked officially. - In any case, stop riding in the school premises, as that is their prerogative. And apparently they already made a statement (??). By the way, what kind of school is this? university? grande ecole? lycee? If it is before the "baccalaureat", then definitely no euc riding, as he will be seen as "spoilt foreigner" because he can afford a wheel. Sourcing the wheel locally and reselling it afterwards can give you two advantages: the cost may be lower than shipping it back and forth, and you can delay your decision, since he might end up not wanting to ride an euc anyway, if for example none of his mates rides or the authorities are intent on enforcing the laws ( how dare they? come on France, those yellow vests are only for safety!! ).
  24. I feel for you @Rama DouglasFor my commute I need to change the lighting pattern depending on the time and the mood. My ks16s requires me to use the app to do so, while the msx allows me to change those settings with the power button. I wish on this particular feature these manufacturers copied one another
  25. I just received here in the UK my msx bought on aliexpress; there was no tax to pay at customs, I paid only what was displayed on aliexpress web site, no additional tax ( VAT, import tax, whatever ). It took a good few weeks for the wheel to arrive from China, and then it was delivered to me by UPS ( not the express one ). No idea why ( luck, tax already factored in the price, regulation ... who knows ? ).
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