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Darrell Wesh

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    Blacksburg, VA
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    Nikola 100v, Z10, Monster 100v, Mten3

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  1. 80kph please. The stopping distance is negligible. If you know what you’re doing, and opening up on long roads, you don’t ever need to stop on an EUC, just go around things that are moving slower than you. Someone emergency stops in front of you? No problem. Split lanes, pass on the oncoming lanes, etc.
  2. Well this style of riding is only necessary for performance or show boating. In your scenario we no longer need or want to be performance oriented so we can just putt along in a straight line like a zombie. Or ride seated.
  3. I just edited this in to my previous post I’m from a sport where 0.01 seconds or 1 millisecond makes the difference from getting a top 3 medal to being off the podium. You better believe that getting in position faster and being able to do it reliably and safely (without over leaning)makes a huge difference. The movement is about speed in positioning and safety. In case I get pedal dip or overlean, I can quickly throw arms in front of me to correct/stabilize myself and throw my weight back. The speed at which I can shift my weight forward is increased thanks to throwing my arms back, which increases acceleration because I get in position to accelerate faster. At the speeds we’re going(35+mph), even saving 50 milliseconds or 0.50 seconds accelerating can create a noticeable gap over a car you intend to pass. Most people don’t think of those precious milliseconds. In a 100m dash, losing by even a tenth of a second is a huge gap and looked like you got your ass kicked and we’re only going 25mph. I guess since the form factor is still relatively the same (relative same length and width as a human but on a wheel) I still think of those milliseconds and how to shave time off. As for gripping the wheel... I can’t lol. You can see in my prior images that my knees are past the wheel and you can’t grip it. And my feet are wide so my ankles can’t grip either. I know with thicker pads I could grip the wheel and try to muscle it forward with my body weight but I think letting the wheel have some play between your legs decreases wobbles and increases your overall stability.
  4. Apparently you misunderstand what I’m actually doing. I’m not “already accelerating” and then putting my arms behind me. If I was already accelerating and decide to put my arms in front then yes, I would go faster then if they were behind me. So you’re correct on that front but that’s not what I’m talking about. My arms go behind me on initial acceleration which I mentioned in my very first post about it by saying “arms straight behind you on forward lean” as in the onset of a forward lean. If my arms are going behind me then you can bet that I’m accelerating hard. I’m not leaning forward and then straightening my arms behind me and then leaning forward some more. Everything happens simultaneously- and fast. If these movements happen sequentially you don’t get the same net effect. I’m not keeping my arms behind me for a lengthy period of time, just for a second or two as I dive forward. Accelerating hard, one doesn’t slowly put mass forward- they throw it forward. Similar to a car, if you want fast acceleration you floor the pedal, not slowly press it down. My arms swing behind me to prevent me from falling off the front if I (rarely) accidentally leaned too far. This motion of me throwing my weight forward happens simultaneously with me throwing my arms backward. If I were to accelerate hard and throw my arms forward I would likely fall off the wheel from losing my balance not to mention it’s unnatural to simultaneously lean and put your arms forward. You would almost have to do that sequentially (lean, then stick arms forward) instead of simultaneously, losing net time on acceleration. Acceleration is not just about what can put your center of mass the farthest forward. It’s also about the time it takes you to get in that position of acceleration. Which is why I espouse my kick start and why throwing your arms back while going forward accelerates you faster. That time it takes you to get in position is more important than the incremental increase you would see from putting your mass a little more forward but taking longer to do so. I’m from a sport where 0.01 seconds or 1 millisecond makes the difference from getting a top 3 medal to being off the podium. You better believe that getting in position faster and being able to do it reliably and safely (without over leaning)makes a huge difference. The image of Tishawn is a good example of throwing one’s arm back while simultaneously throwing the weight forward to accelerate. Happens in 0:44 of the video.
  5. LOL. Okay go out there and start accelerating hard with your straight up tall posture, do try and stand really tall so your COGravity is as high as it can be. Won’t take long for any bump or pothole to cause your body to instinctually lower it’s COG to achieve greater balance and stability on top of the EUC... if they don’t knock you off first 😄 What in the world do you think you’re doing when you bend your knees btw? 😄 As for the breakdown numbering of things you’re questioning I won’t even waste my time quoting and explaining because you just aren’t reading my posts. It’s already answered and I can clearly see you paraphrasing it incorrectly showing you didn’t read.
  6. Uhh I’m beginning to think you’re not actually reading my posts. I said this exact thing. And like the last thing I had to quote you on you somehow skim over my details and miss that I’m saying exactly what you’re saying.
  7. Bingo! Very analytical. You got it. Not only can you accelerate harder with arms behind you, but in the event of you starting to lose your balance, or the pedals dipping, you can quickly throw your arms forward to throw your body weight back and decelerate/catch yourself. So from a safety point of view it’s also superior. In my image below, you can see the bottom photo my arms are back to allow me to hang far forward off the wheel to accelerate hard. My body’s in a hinged position with highly flexed knees and hips for a low center of gravity for maximum balance and stability over bumps. My feet are wide, and there’s no contact with the wheel from my ankles, shins, or knees. Only the soles of my feet on the pedals. My body is also turned sideways a bit, to get more leverage to lean without losing my balance from a straight on forward lean. I posted the top photo to showcase the most common acceleration style: a slightly bent knee and straight on body lean. In that posture some people even grip the wheel to allow them to lean further forward without losing balance and falling off the front (very dangerous in case your grip fails).
  8. .... Um if you read my post I said exactly that. Don’t take the word counterbalance so literally, i’m not saying it’s an equal amount of weight being thrown forward vs backward. You allow yourself to lean forward more by reaching your arms behind you on accelerating. It sounds like you’ve never actually tried this concept because you’d quickly realize what I mean. By putting your arms straight out in front of you while already leaning, your center of gravity is shifted higher, throwing you off balance unless you actually move your body weight back some. In contrast, by putting them high up behind you, you can compensate for the center of gravity being placed higher by leaning forward more thus accelerating harder.
  9. Where does the “throwing the arms forward” part come in to the picture then? The Superman is literally when you throw your arms forward, doesn’t matter if you’re bending your knees or keeping them straight. The Michael Jackson is when you lean with straight legs.
  10. So.... he’s doing the Superman? 🤦🏾‍♂️ There are other considerations to take into account for accelerating other than what gets you there the fastest.... like safety. It just so happens that leaning from a sideways posture not only allows you to put more of your mass forward by allowing you to not lose your balance as easily (compared to leaning straight forward) but it also puts you in a position to not face plant. BTW, putting your arms straight behind you on forward lean would allow you to accelerate faster than putting them straight in front of you. Using arms behind you let’s you use them as a counterbalance so you can lean forward more without falling off which puts more mass in front to accelerate the wheel then what your arms could ever contribute being in front of the wheel.
  11. Come on @houseofjob we’re all waiting for the vid! Meanwhile, I’m in the process of voicing over/editing my own video. Kick Start Intro
  12. lol I’m sure this is sarcasm but that would be disastrous... imagine holding the handle and pushing it forward, every stride you take would probably be a struggle to get it going straight while hunched over like that. Even if it’s not flopping left and right like crazy (because the human stride is left and right) then you still have to jump on the thing. Would you let go and try to jump on? Or pull the handle back and step on(that would kill all your momentum you built up)
  13. You’re accelerating your body weight over the EUC quickly. I realize I painted an image of “pushing the EUC” by kick starting but the proper concept would be pushing your body via kick start over the EUC quickly to produce fast acceleration. Its similar to aggressively leaning in to a turn vs slowly leaning in to a turn. The aggressive lean produces a quicker result. How quickly from a standing position you can move your body and center of mass over the wheel is determined by the push. Most people pull their stance leg up and forward to step on to the pedal (like climbing stairs) and waste time having to initiate a a strong forward lean to get going fast. From the images, in the first frame I’m in the pseudo 3 point start stance, a deeply hinged position for stability and one arm cocked back. In the second frame of the image, I sweep my arm forward while simultaneously kick pushing at the proper angle (look at how my flexed knee is almost pointing horizontally, towards where I want to push myself- forward) to get my body’s mass over the wheel quickly to accelerate. You have to be pretty proficient and stable at 1 leg riding to be able to pull this off. I probably accelerate to 10mph before my trailing leg comes from full extension to resting on to the pedal. Although it may seem like with my leg trailing behind me for that long that’s mass thats slowing me down; it actually acts as a counter balance and enables me to safely lean my whole body even further ahead of the wheel to accelerate harder without falling off the front. Once I’m on the pedals my body is already in an acceleration posture. What tends to happen to most people is they actually initiate braking and slow down when they first get on because they put pressure at the back of the pedals in order to find stability before committing to their forward lean. So you get this jerkiness or “pause” before you see them accelerate. Meanwhile, my acceleration is smooth because the transition onto the wheel was smooth.
  14. Who uses a different search engine then google ?!
  15. Of course.... at low speed. Try to do a left or right turn on a Z10 or 3” tire at 25+mph with just the feet.
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