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  1. The v11 is a monster offroading. It just crushes all terrain like no other wheel imo. It can ride in the street some but really cant keep up on 35 mph roads. Even when at full charge it still tops put at like a real world 32-33 mph. And goes down to about 28 after just 20% of battery. The v12 should be able to handle 35 mph real world speed and hopefully for a out 50% of the battery. And in contrast it can handle offroad as well as most non suspension wheels. So to me their offerings target suburb riders like me that ride a lot of offroad trails with their v11. And the v12 targets u
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  2. The "rated" top speed of this wheel will be a non-issue. It is abundantly clear that the "enthusiasts" who want to push the wheel to the limit speedwise will not buy this wheel... there are better mousetraps out there for them. They know it and they do not need more information than what is available already. This wheel will be targeted to the "larger masses", for whom 25 mph / 40 km/h is more than sufficient. The extra "omph" that this wheel is capable of should be used as a safety factor - more head room for the average user. There are other factors that are way more important to I
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  3. Ecodrift has opened the pre production model and found a few flaws like cracked brackets on housing for control board, ribbing inside wheel well (imagine getting it clean after a mud ride). I saw another HUGE ISSUE when looking closely at the images and also posted it on their page. https://ecodrift.ru/2021/05/11/inmotion-v12-vnutrennie-detali/ Look closely at the motor wires on their image below and see two things 1. Cable sheat looks worn down on motor wires at the bend before banana contacts (and lower one looks cracked in the sheat?), how long before bare metal is exposed
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  4. Yet again some good pricing news: ecodrift now offers preorder for the price 128k₽ (=1420€=1720$) sans warranty or for 138k₽(=1540€=1860$) with warranty. Mind you this is a semi-closed sale, it has only been announced in their telegram channel. You also have to fully prepay cash (or wire transfer, possibly), no credit cards etc, so this looks like the lowest it should ever get. Also the preorder price will go up as soon as orders come in (they warn about this). The general public price (with financing options, warranty etc) is 157k₽(=1750€=2110$). The first batch is expected by the end of June
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  5. Remember that beautiful girl in high school that turned ugly once you got to know her? People that did not know her would comment that she is sooooo beautiful forcing you to take another look. You remembered that you too once thought she was beautiful ...... that is, until you got to know her. Well!? ,That works both ways. If you like the wheel, it will grow on you. You will relate the general appearance as a good lovable friend. ....Most non wheel people would never even realize that you changed wheels. I think the plastic looks nice. .... however I would prefer steam punk mysel
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  6. personally i dont want suspension... i would choose not to buy a wheel simply because it has suspension, its just another thing to worry about breaking, fixing, or maintain and i have never once felt the desire for any kind of suspension, just like riding road bikes with no suspension... and for me i would definitely pay 200 dollars more JUST for the extra 15 kph top speed.. i prefer overall the 16" tire because its compact yet the perfect balance of nimbleness and stability imo, i can take it on tight sidewalks with lots of people and i can take it on side of the road and keep up with cars...
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  7. Wow. the Russian really like the V12, had a chuckle where they put a CGI of the V12 shooting down Nikola+ and 16x, ala Tie-fighter/star Wars style. Edit: Interesting fact, in the pre-production testing models they sent to ecodrift, they used the same motor as the kingsong 16x. All the wires used to disconnect the motor, is located outside the "box"so you can take out the motor without opening it, to change the tire/motor easily i guess? Charging: Box comes with a 2.3A but the V12 can take 10A! Charging port will be the same as the sherman
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  8. The V12 is not a last minute after though rushed to production. It was developed in parallel with the V11. Initially supposed to launch together the split up and focused on at different timing. I would actually expect the V12 1st batch to be one of the more problem free seen from any brand last few years. They had external testers feeding back iteration builds since November 2020 (I know that for sure) maybe even as soon as September or October. I lost tract of when I got the first info on this (from Inmotion staff). But since the don't have any visual pr channel with Inmotion
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  9. I propose here a different video than usual on the road From crazy DIY russians
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  10. Ecodrift did their usual initial impressions and teardown recently, including this photo of the V12 on the scales. @RagingGrandpa made another topic about it here:
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  11. Honestly does the actual top speed of any wheel really matter? Who is cruising with their wheel red lined. If you need a 40 mph wheel theres really only 2 or 3 options for you to choose from and the v12 isn't one of them. I have unexpectedly cut out wheels before, im thankful they where both relatively weak devices so the crashes only left me with some scrapes and bruises. Thing is, both cutouts where under the machines "top speed". Flirting anywhere near the threshold of the machine is just not safe. All that 70 km/h means is its a 55 km/h cruiser. As a community i think it does new ri
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  12. Neither of these numbers really have anything to do with climbing or power directly. 100V only improves the RPM count the motor can handle, so speed at the very top end. And wattage number means only the nominal rating, i.e. how many watts it can take pushed through it continuously without overheating. The number can be improved just by better ventilation so it really can be correct number despite someone else printing lower number. This is done because people compare this number and higher is better in their mind. The motor doesn’t produce the power, only translates it to rotations. The
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  13. To be clear, V12 can climb 35 degree, you just need head start. Snail like crawling uphill hill is fire hazard for majority of these wheels. Burning your board is a real risk with older EUC to this date. Almost all previous EUC can burn that board if you very slowly force the wheel to rise up a steep hill. It requires high current and the longer you force this to the wheel, the more change of failure it can cause to components on circuit board. I seen many people in this forum using aftermarket solutions, to set some kind of warning and safety to their device use, just to protect it from
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  14. Looks like there was a fire at EUCO. Glad that nobody was hurt. One can take a good guess at which brand wheel caused this https://news.yahoo.com/fire-crews-miramar-were-able-162709024.html Fire guts San Diego electric unicycle business
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  15. ...from our friends at ecodrift: https://3zi4gylxuqbuvn2vkxqg2uk5w4-ac4c6men2g7xr2a-ecodrift-ru.translate.goog/2021/05/11/inmotion-v12-vnutrennie-detali/ I counted zero fans!
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  16. Not isolated to IM or any particular mfgr but history has shown & proven that Murphy's Law looms particular large on newly launched wheels. I've experienced it & learning from it, I wouldn't put in my hard earn cash til atleast 1/2 yr from 1st batch.
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  18. You can practice rolling all day but it has ZERO value when it comes to a crash like this. I don't care if you think you're a ninja - you aren't. When this shit happens you have no choice in how you will land - you're foolish to think otherwise. You'll be INSTANTLY slammed to the concrete, stunned, dazed, and not even be sure what happened. That is the reality - even at 20mph, you're young or inexperienced if you think otherwise. Anyone who has been injured in a serious crash like this knows this is the reality. This is a perfect opertunity to have a real conversation about why these
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  19. 7 Wheels for 7 Riders with the new Reciowheel and the migthy KS s16 by All1x1 Hope you enjoy the music. More in: https://t.me/ElectrociclosArgon/211
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  20. Talking about offloading, I am actually looking forward to take the V12 for it. About half of my riding is on single tracks. Like other has pointed out, V11 is great at offroading. The suspension just smooths out so much and makes the ride so fluid. V11 made offroad into easy mode. It's almost too great at it. But that's also the reason I took the mten3 offroad instead sometimes. It's has a lot more "fun" moments. Now the V12 with a smaller than V11 wheel and no suspension, hopefully it will offer a more challenging and "fun" fill ride. In my mind, it's similar to my motorcycle days. I went fr
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  21. LETS RACE! Had to post this. Wish I was there. Enjoy... bar is very high here guys n gals...
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  22. Tesla V3 lähti tänään matkaan! Katsotaan ehtiikö perjantaiksi perille niin pääsee viikonloppuna reenaamaan
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  23. Come on now, if this is where you have to go to trying to defend your position, wouldn’t it be just better to let go? In the above example I would feel just as bad as if I had purchased the V12 and it could only do 44km/h instead of an advertised 70. But we all know that’s nowhere near what’s going on. I would take that bet against you. $100? $2000? I’m sure that IM wouldn’t do a wheel like that next... But if they do, I’ll have to eat my hat! AFAIK, all recent GW sales boxes say 20km/h as the max speed. That’s off by 200%! The maximum speed without remov
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  24. Why attempt to paraphrase (and misrepresent) what EVX said when he's already made his position clear in text in this very thread:
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  25. I agree. It is a quality issue. Begode doesn't care about quality, it puts everything into performance, even if it means a premature destruction. Notcsaying that it's a bad thing, begode is successful because of this. I think the negative criticism of the V12, is its inability to mimic those traits by those who love that. And as @Rawnei put it, it's not wrong to point out the things that "disappoint" some set of riders. Just that sometimes it can be exhausting to see riders to expect Inmotion to abandon its company philosophy and its engineering focus approach. The
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  26. Hey guys&gals, I just caught this YT vid. I'm sure there might be worse fires but this vid is the most eye boggling case of EUC thermal runaway I've ever seen. Title says it an 84v Monster with 10k miles on it. Crazy stuff we're putting btwn our legs 😮
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  27. No, I don't have such data yet The problem for me is to get Sherman for extensive testing. As for now, I can't afford buying Sherman for EUC World development. Anyway, I hope to get Sherman from Eunicycles.eu or from EUCService.com soon. Peak current alarm will react to momentary current values, while current alarm uses some filtering so it will activate when sustained current will exceed the alarm threshold. This is because of Veteran legacy, Sherman shares the same mainboard idea with Gotway/Begide. Especially, it doesn't report battery current but motor phase current. But starting
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  28. Cell balancing is "quite ok" with actual BMS. Depending on what is meant exactly with groups - the paralleled li ion groups can only be balanced together as they are hard wired together. They have to have the same voltage! Untying this parallel groups and balancing each and every cell would mean more or less to "unparallel" all packs and use a BMS for each string! Imho unnecessary complication. Most important missing features by now is the reporting of single cell voltages. Needed for single cells getting too low/cannot be charged anymore. A warning should be included too that c
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  29. I'm going to add a switch for the beeper while I have mine open at this moment. This way I can allow the beeps while riding and have them turned off when connecting or fast-charging.
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  30. This is pretty cool, thanks to Afeez and E-rides, eucs finally hit the prime time as they pitched their company to investors on dragons den⚡️⚡️
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  31. Assume that everything can go wrong, but hope that NOTHING does. Buying a first gen wheel is just a gamble. You've owned enough wheels to know what could go wrong. The things you mention are of course on that list. However, there's also winners in gambling. Do you feel lucky?
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  32. Haha, thanks @Scottie888 for the comments, I've ridden about 25,000 km of offroad pedal MUNI in the last 33years, so those skills became very transferrable starting out on the EUC. I've been ripping at a couple pump tracks in fish creek/okotoks recently on a couple rides, and the suspension isn't helpful in the pumps, so I have to lock it out to not kill the legs on the track. It's kinda of a tradeup though, as the suspension is WAY better for the jumps and drops, but not in the up and down smooth ramp changes where you normally pump it. The suspension absorbs your speed there and tires the
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  33. Considering it’s systematically the same place that burn from the overload (where battery cables arrive to the board) they could start by improving there..
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  34. My second test drive with the Begode T3 (Tesla version 3) ended half an hour ago. This time I did not reduce the speed to 20 km/h, I rode at a speed that feels comfortable to me. The only difference from the previous test was that I weighed 1.5 kg less than last time. The temperature today was 20 degrees Celsius warmer so there was no need to wear a lot of clothes. The end result was that the biggest impact on how far you ride on a charge is most affected by the temperature, not the riding style. The wheel was set to hard mode during both tests. A rider of 70 kg weight can expect a maximum
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  35. The motor is almost certainly not to blame. To convince yourself- The motor should spin freely when the phase wires are open-circuit. You should feel notable resistance spinning the motor when any 2 phase wires are connected together (just hold the terminals together by hand). You should feel very strong resistance spinning the motor when all 3 phase wires are connected together. You could also measure phase-to-phase resistance with a multimeter (but the DC resistance will be so low that cheap meters cannot distinguish it from a short). And with the next board you t
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  36. @conecones I have the RS HT and it runs very cool climbing hills off road. I'm aprox 190lbs with gear, still on the stock tire which works well as a dual purpose tire and the wheel will climb as long as it has traction. So far I have not had the pedals go soft, the tire slips first. For reference, I've stepped off the front of my mcm5 many times on these same hills and that wheel also climbs very well. The RS just has more. With a heavier off road tire getting more traction maybe over powering can still take place but I haven't ran a knobbie yet so I can't say. I love i
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  37. How much do you weigh? For a 75-80 kg rider I would suggest starting with 100 PSI on the lower chamber and 50 PSI on upper chamber. It is the upper chamber that mostly works on reducing the effect you described. Try setting the lower chamber so that when you stand still on the wheel, the suspension will sag 3.5-4 cm and then put half of the lower chamber number on the upper chamber. If you put more on the upper, you can reduce the rebound effect even more, but the ride might get stiffer. I got similar effect when testing with empty upper chamber.
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  38. You will have to do some serious hill climbing in hot weather to hit the 75C alarm on the HT. The Nik has a lower warning at 65C. I don't know about recent batches though. I 100kg friend of mine spent a sunny afternoon repeatedly trying to climb 25 degree skiing slope. He hit 75C at one point and the wheel beeped and tilted him back. Life is good.
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  39. Hello @Dorf! Some of the symptoms you describe are consistent with water in the power button. The tiltback after a few seconds being turned on specifically is a safety mechanism to indicate that the power button keeps being pressed, which is not a normal condition. You could try to wait until the power button dried up, possibly helping it gently with locally applied heat. I would give it a few days before starting to open up the wheel for more diagnosis. The reason being it's easy to crack the outer shells when prying them off (I did with one). Once the wheel opened up howe
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  40. Hi there, sorry to hear about your unfortunate misadventure. Yes I'd open it up if it were me. Then go to town with a multimeter checking continuity on switches, wires & connections. Check the mobo for any type of burning, browning & any general discoloration. Pull the battery pack & do a detailed inspection for water ingress & other damage. Besides wiping & cleaning moisture & dirt, ensure you destatic yourself before touching/removing the mobo & other electronics. Hint: Before pulling any wires, take as many pics as you wish, tag corresponding connectors/conn
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  41. Actually it sounds more plausible that the wheel tilted beyond the motor cutoff angle. That happens quite easily in banked turns. Besides, when overpowered, the wheel doesn’t immediately cut off, it justgoes soft until it tilts beyond the cut off angle and only then cuts off the motor. I think you can increase the cutoff angle from the KS app though. Or from the maintenance app. Sorry, I’m not that well on track with KS anymore.
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  42. welp, now i have a SECOND Sherman charger that doesn't charge at the full 4.3-4.4A. Now I have two chargers that both only charge around 2.1-2.2A. No clue why this is happening or if it can be fixed. My understanding is it can't. edit - just checked both of my chargers. they have the brown/yellow "good" capacitors, but both only charge at half the speed. Can't say I'm comfortable using these knowing what I do, guess I'll have to use my known good Gotway 3A charger until I can find a suitable replacement. Double edit - The second charger decided to magically charge at 4.4A aga
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  43. I've only had EUCs for a little over a month. I started with a S18, then got a mten3 for my daughter, and my EXN should arrive in the next 2 hours!! As far as learning on a big wheel goes: I have now taught 4 people how to ride wheels including my daughter who just turned 6. Everyone has wildly different experiences. I literally hopped on the S18 and rode off (first time ever trying a wheel). I have a huge amount of action sports experience (basically everything on wheels, snow, and water) so I'm not your typical person. My friend bought a Sherman and I taught him how to ride it. It took
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  44. Although KS have a real "% to overlean" warning beep with their "88% used up" alarm. Just with brave acceleration it takes just some tenth of a second from the beep to the overlean. Not really enough time to change anything, but ti get the hint that something is going to get really wrong very soon... Maybe they should change the beep to some king of satanical laughter?
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  45. If I didn’t have a V10f or Sherman, getting the V12 would be a no-brainer. But as a first or second wheel, this is the choice I would recommend someone get. I think Inmotion has a real winner on their hands. For me, I am going to wait out 2021 and hope Inmotion comes out with an updated V11 with >1800wh battery, touch display and larger v12-style heatsink. They can carry over the beautiful cyclops headlamp design.
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  46. Wrong way has a upcomming v12 unboxing the 15th...
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  47. Pretty excited about all the wheel customization and tuning. One of my favorite parts of the S18 is the three pedal height placements - I've ridden at all settings, and even with pedals staggered (different heights), and it changes ride feel. I never really complained about 3 settings: Hard, Medium, Soft - but it makes a lot of sense to add more user control and flexibility for personal preferences. I doubt the settings are all that complex, but in time a wheel could have ride profiles (saved sets of multiple settings) that are selected for different type rides
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  48. I get that it’s a big problem if a company lies on the specs on purpose. But has this actually been confirmed now? The wheel hasn’t even been released yet. There’s one test unit that we know of and still time to either change the official specs or tune the wheel better before the actual release. I’m not expecting the GPS speed to reach sustained 70 km/h either. But maybe a bit too early for the bashing? 🤔 I’ll join in the bashing when we have production units tested by several riders and it still cannot touch 70 km/h at least on the app speedometer. Does not change your argument, but
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