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    Have ridden 50 miles or so on my nikola and damn it is so much fun. So smooth so powerful. The fat tire eats up the road.. bumps,potholes, no problem. I literally just wanna ride it. I’m at work right now counting down the seconds till I’m free so I can ride some more. Lol. Nikola is an amazing machine... 10/10 imho 👍👍
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    I wish I could post the video (but I can't) of the work that a local rider has done with EUC suspensions (modified Gotway wheel). I've seen it ride over construction timbers (not 1-inch travel mentioned by @eddiemoy) It's real and it works. Why anyone would not like EUC suspension is a mystery to me. I think suspensions will be mainstream eventually as the manufacturers continue to improve our wheels. Might be 5-years from now, but it'll happen.
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    A properly executed suspension system works just like - or better than - a bigger or slightly deflated tire. Several people have mentioned the suspension system as a request for future EUC features, and some people - you included - have responded how a suspension system will mess up the riding experience or dynamics. But, how would you know when you have never tried riding on one? I have experimented with a few DIY suspension systems in the pedals of both 16S and the MSX. The ones that work well enable me to ride with a slightly higher tire pressure, which improves handling. The suspension also decreases the load on the wheel at sharp bumps, potholes, curbs etc, and increases the pedal grip as there is a lot less shaking going on on uneven terrain. If the manufacturers implement suspension in the wheel design, it will be nothing short of a game changer, and I believe it is bound to find it’s way to the standard EUC design in some form at some point. One could see the 3” tire as being one already.
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    Let me start with the disclaimer that I am not in the pro-suspension camp. I am not, because suspension aggravates the biggest flaw of EUCs (from my perspective) by adding even more weight. Placing the suspension between pedal and shell also has the considerable disadvantage of a quite large unsprung mass. And it's hard to see how to come up with a better (good) suspension design for EUCs. To me it's difficult to predict riding experience with suspension of relevant travel (suspension did not catch on for skiing, for example), but it is IMHO worth to at least explore the possibilities if weight is not considered the deal breaker. Now the responses to all the questions (I assume more or less reflecting @mrelwood's position on suspension): Sure, the legs are our suspension. The disadvantage: it needs a lot of practice and permanent attention. Mistakes have happened and will happen, some of which can probably be prevented with built-in suspension. I doubt that suspension can fully replace the leg work any time soon, if ever. Any tire is part of the suspension of the vehicle. Larger tires tend to give better suspension, but size is not the only factor. I don't understand the opposition between pneumatic and tube filled, as a tube seems to imply pneumatic functioning. Suspension decreases peak forces, I would say big time, actually. I agree that additional damage from traversing a deep pothole may be possible. I think it is a very unlikely scenario though and usually suspension will reduce or prevent damage. It is often better to go down through the pothole and up at the end than to sail through it and hit the opposite side face-on. The same question you can ask for your car, or for a motorbike, and the answer is the same: it doesn't need to account for different weights to be effective. It could account for weight by having adjustable pretension and/or damping. Probably yes. When your car hits a pothole you are very happy that it has suspension, for sure, even if you don't think that you are happy. The more effective the suspension is, the less butt leaves seat. I am not sure, maybe you think about suspension to be like an undamped spring, which it is not. Are you saying suspension is nonsense because it is not God-given? It's hard to see that suspension will fully replace the leg work ever, but it may make the ride smoother and safer (though the increased speed that riders will chose with suspension equipped wheels may well cancel the added safety).
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    Enjoying his summer break doing what 6 year old do, shooting some hoops and playing with remote control cars.
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    I don't think you can without jumping. The wheel that I've seen in action can ride over large objects without jumping, at a good speed. But the beauty of all this Eddie is that you don't have to buy the wheel with suspension. But 'we' can. And yes, you are not easily impressed
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    Sorry to interrupt the debate on EUC suspension, but have there been any recent updates on the release date of the 16X?
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    Had a nice ride with my sister today, she is getting better and better. We found a little oasis in the middle of nowhere, only big villas with a sea and boats on it, couldn’t believe my eyes. It was like a different world.
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    from a ride to Marblehead Neck to see the boaters. photosphere link https://kuula.co/post/7kdqy
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    The specs state that the 16X is 7" wide and the Nikola is 7.9" wide. When you add the additional stick-on pads to the Nikola, it must be adding nearly another inch to the width, vs the recessed padding on the 16X. I'm definitely starting to think the 16X design was more well thought out and also like the fact that KS more openly takes inputs from the EUC community. I think we're all going to be pleasantly surprised when we get our 16X's.
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    Inspired by this thread, I am trying to understand zippiness and acceleration. I thought the following figure should help. The arrows indicate direction of forces. FTR, here the pedal has a length of 95% of the wheel radius and is inclined by 3º. The question is which forces/torque the rider can/does induce. Green arrows: down force of the rider (weight) assuming constant speed (two scenarios, same weight). The CoG of the rider is vertically above the point of attack on the pedal. Forces and lean induced by the airflow are disregarded. Red arrows: (down) force from the rider towards the wheel under acceleration (or considering air resistance), two scenarios, all with the same rider weight force component. The arrow depicts a weight force combined with a lean angle due to acceleration (and possibly air resistance) such that the rider is in balance. The lean angle is directly tied to acceleration which is tied to the torque. That is, not every arrow positioning is a possible stationary acceleration scenario (or rather: only a few are and the shown are not likely to fall into this category, though they look somewhat close). The effective leverage (AKA moment arm or lever arm) of the respective force is the smallest distance of the force vector line to the axle, the created torque is proportional to the moment arm (see also here). EDIT: The forward thrust computes to: thrust [kg] = weight x blue bar / outer wheel radius where the blue bar is the horizontal distance between the force vector and the axle. For example, 80 kg x 3 cm / 20 cm = 12 kg forward thrust. The factor 80 kg / 20 cm = 4 kg / cm is the characteristic constant for the given wheel and rider. A 16" wheel (radius 20 cm) with 80 kg rider delivers 4 kg thrust for each cm horizontal distance. We can express the length of the blue bar in terms of the support point on the pedal and the position of the CoG of the rider (see here). For any stationary lean angle (the support point of the rider is not vertically under the CoG, but the lean does not change) we have thrust [kg] = weight x (forward displacement + tan(lean angle) x down displacement) / outer wheel radius where the forward displacement is the horizontal distance between the support point on the pedal and the axle (negative if the support point is behind the axle) the down displacement is the vertical distance between the support point on the pedal and the axle (negative if the pedal is above the axle) the lean angle is determined by the horizontal displacement of the CoG of the rider and the support point Remark that we have approximately angle 0º 3º 5.7º 11º 17º 27º 45º tan(angle) 0% 5% 10% 20% 30% 50% 100% The lower the pedals (relative to the wheel radius), the more additional thrust we get during acceleration. WIthout lean angle it has no effect. The effect seems of moderate size: lowering the pedals by 20% at a 14º lean angle yields 5% x weight additional thrust, the same effect as shifting the CoG by 5% of the wheel radius forward. With an 80kg rider and 20 cm radius, we get 1 kg thrust per 1 cm lowering at 14º lean angle. On a slope of 15º (or 27% = tan(15º)), we need to displace the weight by more than 26% = sin(15º) of the wheel radius to get more than 0.26 x weight forward thrust to start get going. The right green vector above the white diamond depicts the situation where the wheel is at standstill. Not quite coincidentally, the contact point happens to be shifted 26% forward in this case (see also this Youtube clip). The right red arrow produces more torque than the right green arrow, even though its point of attack on the pedal is further to the center and with the same rider weight. Again, this doesn't need to be a situation which a rider can possibly sustain. Black arrows (EDIT: are meaningless): tangential torque force direction induced by the rider. If the pedal does not dip, the wheel must provide the respective counter torque. The larger the force angle between the colored and the black arrow (if they point into the same direction, the angle is zero), the less weight force can be converted into torque. At 90º, no torque is generated. The closer the point of attack is to the middle, the larger is the angle and the closer is the point to the axle, and both means less torque is generated. EDIT: it's simpler to deduce the effective leverage from the white bars. Random thoughts: There is more to it than the simple inverted pendulum, as we can shift the "pendulum" on the pedal. Influence of rider weight: the input force to generate counter torque is proportional to the rider weight. The system acceleration is inversely proportional to system mass = rider + wheel mass. That is, the rider vs wheel weight induced efficiency should amount to the rider mass divided by the sum of rider and wheel mass, hence heavier riders have an advantage. An example with a 20kg wheel: a 60kg rider has 60/80=75% weight-related efficiency, a 100kg rider has 100/120=83% efficiency, which is 11% more than the 60kg rider. Not a huge difference, but children get an automatic power reduction for free Influence of rider height: apparently none, only the lean angle matters. To get in an accelerating position, the necessary displacement of the wheel (in the opposite direction) is proportional to the CoG of the rider? EDIT: the influence of the pedal height: when the force vector tilts forward (positive lean angle, for example under acceleration), the resulting thrust from this lean is proportional to the lowering of the pedals (relative to the wheel radius). Pedal dipping changes the support point on the pedal and seems to increase the force angle between colored and black arrow hence reducing torque (which should be good as it allows the wheel to catch up). EDIT: pedal dipping should not have any effect in the static force analysis (i.e. if the rider follows the dip with the ankle to stay in balance). It moves the contact point more to the front but leads to a less extreme dorsiflexion of the ankle. Acceleration induces an additional rotational force on the pedal-shell system, if the CoG of the wheel is not on axle level. My hunch is that this force is not decisive, but we better use equations to find out . As a starting point: a V8 has 7kg head weight at wheel radius, which is small compared to the riders "head" weight. For acceleration (or slowing down), the wheel weight should be the determining factor, not it's distribution. However the stationary lean angle of the rider should depend on the weight distribution of the wheel? The rider needs to lean (slightly) more if the wheel is head heavy.
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    This conversation reminds me of the time I went for a ride and got lost in a national park. I came to a horse path which was rather beat up (and frozen). I ride with bent legs and very rarely ride with straight legs (not even soft lock out). I've been squatting for around 9 years now but I still can't do 5 mini squats per second. If I would have had my mountain bike I would have had three mechanisms for suspension: 1. My body 2. My tires 3. My front fork Believe it or not my front fork (Rock Shox) is adjustable. You pump it with air and that way you control the resistance. You can also set the rebound speed so that it is slow or fast rebound or anywhere in between. You can even lock it out entirely. When locked out it has some small play and it also has an emergency function so that if I where to violently press down or fall in a ditch then the fork would activate and compress. It's not made out of the same material as a super ball either so I don't have to worry about magically doing a wheelie when it compresses. Some call it science. Others call it magic. I would not want the suspension only on the pedals of my EUC though. My legs would slide along the sides of the EUC as the pedals moved up and down and I would lose grip at critical moments. I would want the suspension on the body of the EUC which in turn is connected to the pedals. With the tire. With my body. Springs lol. Is that the best we can do? One size fits all? I've gotten down to 63kg now. Houston we found something in orbit coming your way. Never mind it's just a guy on a unicycle. 15 minutes and 9 seconds into the clip (the link is embedded with the time stamp so it should play from there)
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    Just don’t get why people don’t care about the speakers. I think they are cool. I usually don’t play music through them unless I am in areas crowded with pedestrians; not to be obnoxious, but as an alert to them that I am nearby. They seem to work very well as a pedestrian alert. Plus, my music selection in crowds usually doesn’t contain a bunch of explicit content so people aren’t offended or annoyed. To be frank, The KS speakers are not really loud enough to be obnoxious in my opinion. I can barely hear them over even more obnoxious DC traffic noises. During group rides I don’t use my speakers at all; especially, if I am leading the ride because I find them slightly distracting. Several fellow riders play music so usually we have music front, middle, and rear; our procession is pretty noisy.
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    Looks so comfortable! Absolutely no need for suspension!
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    He's just a show-off git. Ignore him He's got too many wheels anyway. If he felt like doing the right thing he would give me his Z10
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    Yep it was a teaser from Inmotion before releasing the V10. It was on the blog of Inmotion USA with what they have been working on and what they decide would take too long to implement into the V10 at the time. That said, I saw someone from Inmotion stating they have not given up the idea of suspension yet... But no further details. But since I decided not to get a V10 and that I sold off my V8 for sparrs/repair job I have not followed Inmotion that much. Now that said I still strongly believe that KS16X is my best option for upgrade and second wheel in company with my KS18L. I doubt I ever will become a @Marty Backe mk II and do mountain trails, simply due to my knee unless we see really good active suspension.
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    I assume you haven't seen this yet. It certainly doesn't look like to have market maturity as of yet, in particular lacking damping, but even without damping it doesn't seem to kick the rider off for some magical reasons:
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    I think this is indeed the key point, thanks Mono! I adore the gentlemanly and calm mood you sustained in your replies. I imagine a good suspension system on an EUC to have a range of travel of about an inch. Or two, tops. As such it would be just another add-on to the tire and for example running shoes, to offer modest decoupling to reduce the initial shock and bounce-back. Not to make potholes disappear, replace skills, body parts, or other less relevant matters that were brought up, wether they were given to you or grown by yourself.
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    @mrelwood Yea, he's like that. Had to block him on facebook and thinking about doing it here - he'd deny basic things like the MSX tire being bigger (calling it Gotway marketing etc). It's the Dunning Kruger effect I think. Best to ignore him.
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    The idea that one would need to be strapped to a vehicle because it has suspension doesn't make any sense to me. It seems, we have a totally different conceptions of what suspension means and implies. Maybe a good summary is that I believe suspension reduces the (vertical) motion of the sprung mass, while you seem to suggest that suspension increases the (vertical) motion of the sprung mass. I am even pretty certain though that one of the main reasons to introduce suspension is to reduce vertical motion of the sprung mass. So be it, I guess that's not going to change any time soon Just FTR, I am a fierce proponent of bent and soft knees, I believe it is one of the major safety measures we have when riding an EUC.
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    @eddiemoy I am just another one that totally disagrees with your argument regarding suspension. Suspension well designed and adjustable for weight with incorporated shock ab-sobers (important to stop bounce) would be a good thing, not everyone has young forgiving knees that are basically used as shock ab-sobers. This enhancement will come, just a matter of time.
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    @Marty Backe Maybe we need a Griffith Park ride sometime in there? It’d be a hike for @fryman but definitely worth it! I have a new wheel that needs some trail time!
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    Some moments from today’s group ride in Nuuksio, Finland. Great day, great trails. Featuring @mrelwood, @Peter Köhler And Tapani. That weird looking EUC is a rebuild of a KS16S.
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    No you have to disengage pedels by the app. Same goes for trolly. You have 10 free test tries. 🤑 New app version 4.0 only costs 10$, and will release in about 2 weeks. Last minute changes to satisfy those complaining about rattling handle. 😎 Ohh darn it isn't 1st of April anymore 😏
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    Then, more practice should do. Low speed pedal dips become spectacularly unscary after a while. After all, when the pedal fully gives in, speed is the decisive scare and hurt factor. My more profound point though was my persistent amazement that safety suggestions seem to reflexively go to a change of equipment instead of change of behavior. I know that equipment is easier to change. But getting a stronger wheel is almost like asking for getting into the very same troubling situation just at a 5-10km/h higher speed.
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    And well said😊👍 All kingsong has done is met our demands, i think they have done a good job 👍
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    The more I look at the design and structural highlights the more excited I get. The crushproof rubber integrated into the front of the shell is a nice touch! Add to that the entire shell’s dull black finish that transitions perfectly into the semi transparent carbon lens for the side LEDs. This wheel just looks well grounded with a blend of contours resembling the aesthetically pleasing Rockwell GT16 and the rugged stance of the Z10.
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    Suspension would be perfect for seated riding! I have become quite decent at riding seated on my MSX but even with 20 PSI sometimes I feel like i'm gonna break my ass. Sure I put pressure on my feet and offload the wheel from my butt if I can see 100% of all bumps but an optional suspension with lockout / no lockout and no penalty for having it other than price would be a cool option. An inherent disadvantage would be the added complexity of such a feature though. My friend rides a Lacroix which is a rather expensive electric longboard. It has a top speed of 65km/h and range of about 50km (less if he rides top speed). We cruise together sometimes and we both ride between 30-40kmh. Then he goes home, checks the bearings, sometimes cleans them, changes trucks, or bushing/shock blocks, maybe adds new tape. I just ride mine. Wipe it down now and then if it's muddy or dusty. He asked me once why I don't open it and check the bearings. I just laughed. Zero maintenance. Just the way I like it. 3000km on it. 2000km the first 4 months. 1000km the past 30 days. I tried an 18XL last week and it clicked instantly. It was a perfect fit. I didn't have to force myself to like it like with the MSX. The MSX took me 2000km to get used to. Now after riding it even more it feels agile and before I thought it was hardly manageable. The Nikola has an attractive spec but the 16x has the fact that it is a Kingsong. If it is like a smaller 18XL then I am sold. The Nikola Plus specs do look very good though and makes the 16x look like a dinosaur before it even came out! A Nikola or a 16x wouldn't be an upgrade for me but a sidegrade and a plan B. If my MSX dies I am screwed.
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    So. I’ve gotta say. As upset as I am this is another way Jason with ewheels has proven to have the best customer service in the online sales world... I emailed Jason and he CALLED. Me within two minutes. Nowhere do u get that level of service but with @Jason McNeil from ewheels.com. My nikola is acting like it’s still on its side. Or the motor disengage switch is activated ... it turns on. Connects Bluetooth. Will let me calibrate. But the motor never REALLY engages. I’ve turned it off and on a dozen times. Calibrated five or six times. Turned it upside down. Smacked it. Let it fall on its side. Neither Jason nor I have a clue. But. He’s going to ship it back for me and fix it at no cost to me. So yes. I am super disappointed and upset but Jason is doing everything he can so I’m not mad. We will get it figured out and I’ll keep you updated.
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    We know the Gotway algorithm, even the "Lets release a better wheel before early birds get theirs"
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    C'mon this is R2 we are talking about - you know he's going to be changing his mind and moving it up and down like a jockys bol*%$ks every chance he gets. He can't help himself
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    I'm with you there mate. The 16X is the only wheel I like the look of other than the Z which is still my favourite. I don't like the round styles either, and the MSX, though boxy, just looks...well...like a glorified briefcase imo. No doubting it's capabilities or spec though! I don't like the Nikolas/V10's/MCM5's etc. Clearly vanity at it's finest I admit, but I gotta like the look of what I ride you know what I mean?! The only wheel I would upgrade to at this moment is a Z10. Theres no way I could find £1600 for a 16X and truth be told I'd still prefer the Z10 Shame I can't prise yours away from you!
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    Marty, there is no jumping in this video, just rolling. It isn't that difficult. And this is with a 2.125" tire, 16". Love this guy... Wish he was still making videos.
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    I agree that this wheel would hurt like hell with the roll cage along with the extra wide stance between your legs but someone put some serious thought into this concept. The pedals would be an easy fix.
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    Here are my three four question on the technical specs: Added weight = ? Suspension travel = ? Weight of the unsprung mass = ? Change if wheel width = ? If the answers are <=1.5kg, >=5cm, <=3kg, and <=1cm, I will change the camp and become a pro-suspenser eh, suspensioner?
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    I have found that the tire is the single biggest contributor to ride quality on an EUCs and e-Scooters, in large part because of the shock absorbing characteristics. This became most notable to me when I switched from a KS18L (Kenda Gator Tire) to KS18XL (CST or Chao Yang Tire). The Kenda was very stiff and rough pavement vibrations were unpleasant and unseen road dips/bumps were jarring. The CST/Chao Yang alleviated the rough pavement vibrations and surprise dips/bumps were not as sharp. The KS18L was like a dirt bike and the KS18XL was like an SUV. I liked both of these riding experiences depending on my mood. Tire chemistry, height of tire wall and tire width play a large noticeable role in passive ride suspension and I would expect advancements in the tire to be the fastest and cheapest solution for EUCs instead of expensive, clunky active forms. Suspension whether active or passive still has to be managed by the rider by leg control or you could be trampolined off any thing with suspension. If you stand in the middle of a longboard and jump up and down like on a trampoline, you can see and feel the effects of that type of suspension. Yet when you ride that board at speed you manage the board by leg control and foot placement to take advantage of the suspension and not become victim to it. In general most wheeled devices that move fast do better with some form of suspension, passive or active.
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    If I understood the question correctly, then yes. But taken into account the factor of time, the change in pedal tilt angle (ie. adjusting the amount of power applied to spin the wheel) does introduce several potential parameters: How much tilt allowed, or time let by until the initial response from the software. (Very, very little. Still, may exist.) The acceleration curve for a peaceful lean. Acceleration curve for a fast lean. Other acceleration curve variations based on the events of the past second. Maximum tilt allowed under any circumstance. Combination of all of the above and the firmware’s response to the required vs expected power requirement for each situation. Etc... That is indeed a relevant point. But what happens immediately after that is the CoG moves forward. The firmware can have a small window of allowable tilt, which the lifting of the forefoot may partially fit in. When the CoG then moves forward beyond the window, the firmware can try to keep the pedals as level as possible. This would initiate a fairly powerful acceleration even before the rider reaches the intended lean. And as you surely know, the wheels read the sensors and respond to the input hundreds of times per second. Whenever I bring up the firmware into this topic of discussion, I think about the first experience I had with the V10F (perhaps the first firmware version). The behaviour was ridiculous, and it felt impossible to understand at first. I was literally not able to get into a proper leaning position. The pedals felt rock solid, and to a 16S rider (at that time) it felt almost as if there was a tiny but immediate tilt-back trying to stop me from going forward. Later on with an updated firmware the same wheel felt normal, and it now had a senseable softness to the riding mode. Meaning, I was able to feel some tilt allowed when starting to accelerate. The wheel now felt quite natural, and it responded to my commands in a predictable and sensible way. I was able to accelerate fast, for example, and to do so was effortless. The only way I can explain my experience is a stupendously hard riding mode. And being that the behaviour was quite soon changed based on user feedback, tells me that I (and the owner of the wheel, at least to some extent) wasn’t the only one with said experience. That is true. But as soon as you start putting pressure back on your forefoot to stop you from falling over, the CoG starts to move forward, and the firmware can decide how the wheel reacts. If the mode is hard enough to speed up the initiation of a lean as you described, it will just as rapidly try to cancel the forward lean as soon as you start to slow down the fall forward. Which I’m pretty certain does generally displace the CoG a lot more. I think a few of us will never forget the experienced downhill skier that wasn’t able to get his nee Gotway Tesla to go faster than 4km/h no matter how much he ”leaned”... As soon as we suggested that his ”lean” might actually be a skiing crouch and that he should instead push his hip forward, he stopped replying. And I like to think was happily cruising on his Tesla at whichever speed he wanted... Btw @Mono, I love discussing and pondering this (or any) topic finally with a person of your level of understanding on physics, and your mature and humble attitude of curiousness! That is a first for me.
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    Day three on the MSX and I still haven't been able to use up all her power. Amazing! Some quickly cut footage while I continue to figure out the can software and best export settings. Someday I'll compile all my footage and make a proper video. Shout-out to Onewheel Boston for the good times.
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    If you consider the 3” tire suspension, why not you legs? If you consider 3” tire suspension, why not the older 2.125” tires? All your talk and you circle back to the tires being suspension and only 3” can be considered? What about the 4” on the Z10? Let me guess, it isn’t the same cuz it is pneumatic vs tube filled? i don’t agree with your assessment of a mechanical suspension reducing load on the wheel. Any suspension will be under tension when riding. I don’t see how this would decrease anything. I would think it would make things worse since it is under tension. i.e. when you hit a pothole, it will spring down to the hole faster maybe causing more damage to the wheel. How would the suspension account for the different weights? You think that that it would increase pedal grip? I see the opposite since we are just standing on the pedal unsecured, what happens to you in a car when you hit some big potholes? Butt leaves the seat? Please quit it with the suspension nonsense. Use what god gave you, your legs.
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    I can't remember where I saw it, but somebody complained that the scorpion style handle on an inMotion swung up (due to centrifugal force) and hit him hard in a mild crash. And it's not locking. Maybe it would be good to nail it down during a ride: velcro strap or 3D print a latch or ...
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    @Marty Backe could you post some pic. MSX vs Nikola, few different angles, please.... :))
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    Yes, I was riding on some knarly trails with very large rocks and the pedals we're fine.
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    So many comments. This just goes to show that we can’t please everyone. I ride a Gotway MSX. The 16x would be my first kingsong Wheel. Im excited!
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    There is a limit to what can be squeezed into the round shape of the 16S. You cannot squeeze more batteries into the shell without making it too thick hence the new shape is a little wider and a little taller. A bigger tire on the 16S would only make it a more sluggish wheel. I like the direction the 16X has taken and from my stand point it looks amazing. The only issue I have with it is that it may be too heavy to replace my 16 that I keep in the trunk. I don't need s fast wheel to do my limited last mile stuff. Although I think the 16X will replace my 18L. I want a little more torque of the smaller wheel that I'm not getting from the 18". Thinness and thicker tires don't mix. You are asking for opposites. LOL. Better pedals, you can buy the upgraded pedals now. I think the ergonomics of the wheel is already great. Most of the stuff you asked for is already in the 16X design. I'm confused... Taller body is lends to better ergonomics. You can only have the wheel so thin because of the batteries. Unless they come out with higher density batteries and smaller form factor, they are working with what is out there and so is everyone else. Already has better higher density LED's, this isn't a feature I like. I rather it have no LED's. It has 3" thick tires. This definitely adds to the weight. Has better pedals. No one has any dampening and I don't think this is a good idea. Look at the inmotion v10f pedals, they flexed and now they are may reports of failed pedals. Best dampening is from the bigger tire and your legs. Any kind of suspension will mess with the way the wheel rides making it less predictable. simple is better.
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    Another idea: Let us set our wheels in our profiles. I'm watching a live tour now from "kwmisiek" and his battery usage is amazing to me, I wanna know what wheel he's riding!
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    My wife asked me to do some yard work. Guess she thought I couldn't ride and clean the drive at the same time.
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