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    Figured I should share this here, since my siblings and I are incapable of not acting like idiots when we're together, lol. Edited by my brother (The one on the 16s)
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    For a fleeting second I thought that was a map of the UK....Gloucester...Essex....Ipswich....Manchester!
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    Owyhee mountains Idaho #msx
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    Hi all, Firstly I'd like to say thanks to the forum members who've been kind enough to answer a few beginner questions I posted here before buying my first ECU a few days ago. I opted for a fairly basic (cheap) machine to test the water and see how well I coped and as a result bought a Inmotion V5F. I'm still very much a newbie rider but would like to say to others who are considering their first ECU, it really is something pretty much anyone can learn to ride, I'm in my 50's so I'm no youngster but can just about ride mine - so far it has 4 miles on the clock but I can now stay on it for perhaps 200 - 300 yds and hopefully I'll double that tomorrow As for learning, I did the usual thing of holding onto a wall then trying to manage a few yards but soon realised the security of the wall was possibly slowing progress. In the end I went to the local park with a wide expanse of grass and decided to try to ride unaided, I fell a few times but on grass no harm was done and after about 15 mins I found I could just about ride a short distance. The technique that has helped me is to start getting onboard holding something, then stand straight but take 10 secs to relax while focussing on a distant target once you are at ease lean forward and try to keep a reasonable speed (hence the grass), keep looking at the target and don't look down. After a few goes (falls) I found I can steer to some extent just by looking left or right. Anyway like I say I'm no expert but think in a day or 2 I'll be able to ride properly so I'm hoping my newbie perspective may encourage others to have a go Many thanks.
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    I'm back from my 3rd session with the wheel. The EUC was wearing its EUC Bodyguard cover, and I was wearing: hiking boots high enough to cover the ankles, Giro Switchblade full-face MTB helmet (am reserving the heavier motorcycle helmet for when things gets more serious ), double-sided Flexmeter wristguards, and G-Form Elite knee and elbow guards. Upped the speed setting on the wheel to alarm and tilt back at 13kmh (a slight bump up from yesterday). Strangely, all its speed alarms and tiltback had reset to what looked like default values overnight. Weird, but it accepted my new values of 0, 0, 13, 13. Some of the lights settings had gone back to Auto, too, which I believe I've read about and is normal for this wheel (but annoying). One big takeaway is that I'm far less tired after today's session. No sweating, less foot and leg soreness. It was almost pleasant, physically. This is good, as I started already a little tired (leg muscles are a little weak after a bike ride this morning), and with a stiff back. As for the venue, boy did I pick the wrong place for privacy! It's a huge lot that serves a large commercial office building and a church. The lot is probably a quarter mile long. I picked the end as far from the church as I could be, and wondered why there were so many recreational vehicles and trucks with recreational trailers scattered around this area. Found a relatively empty area and got going. Well, within minutes a steady stream of cars started driving by in the nearby lane, toward the main road from the direction of the church. For about an hour, cars were leaving, and leaving, and leaving, and I could see everyone turning their heads and staring at me. And then came whole families walking toward the back part of the lot where I was, and started getting into their RV's and trucks, and they were also ogling at me. I felt very exposed! I think I've served today as an advertisement, a beacon for EUC awkwardness, to many hundreds of people. Not going there again, especially tomorrow, Sunday, when there are multiple services advertised to happen at the church. On the way home I found a nice big deserted commercial loading dock area that looks perfect for tomorrow's practice, though! One guy came walking over and said hi, and wanted to know what this thing was. "Cool," was the reaction, and he walked away. Later a car slowed, a window rolled down, and again, "what's that?" I told him, he wished me good luck with the learning process, and then he stayed there idling and watching me for a while. This was of course when I was at my most awkward! As for the actual learning process: Took a couple of minutes to get back to what I had achieved in the park & ride lot yesterday. A little initial hesitation with mounts and balancing as the wheel speeds up. Soon I was moving past where I was at yesterday, though. My main achievement today was to learn that you don't move the upper body at all. You move the EUC to lean it and balance it, while the upper body remains motionless relative to the ground (more or less). I knew this already, of course, intellectually, but today I learned it viscerally. Essentially, the tightness of a turn is a function of how far I can twist/tilt my hips and bend my knees without my upper body following suit. After an hour I reached the point where I could reliably pass over a point I picked, get onto and follow a straight line (using the lines drawn on the asphalt for car stalls), and make pretty wide turns. My biggest problem right now is that turns get a little out of control sometimes (over-steep), and that my speed control isn't very good while in the turn (so my forward/backward balance shifts a little while leaned into the turn). I'm also hesitant to do brute-force torso-twisting turns, and I think that's because it feels less controlled and it's hard to predict exactly how many degrees of rotation each "twist" is going to achieve. Getting better, though. Lots of circles, slowly tightening in radius, and then a bunch of figure-8's. I was using a storm drain cover as my reference point for these maneuvers, passing over the cover for the figure-8's (to add a little intentional roughness to the ride as well). No falls today, by the way, which figures since I was wearing the gear. As soon as I take it off I'll fall for sure. Experienced tilt-back for the first time today (several times), since the tilt-back was set to the same speed as the speed warning, so it was actually happening before the warning most times. It was good to get a feel for what that's like. One other challenge is the step-on itself. I can carefully position the first foot, which I prefer to keep a little bit outward on the pedal to give my leg more room to tilt the wheel back and forth without hitting, but when I step up the other foot I don't always land it where I intended on the pedal, and then it's hard for me to shift it to where I want it without wobbling and destabilizing the whole ride. I'll have to do some exercises where I intentionally lift a foot while riding in a straight line, and properly shift my body to make the wheel lean against the other leg and to keep the whole system in balance and moving forward. If I can achieve this, I'll be able to move a foot deliberately without dismounting first. I'd say I could now follow a path (like a trail or sidewalk), and maybe deal with very sporadic pedestrians/bikes...given enough time to see them and plan my path. However, I'm nowhere near being able to make sudden unexpected maneuvers, or tight turns, or even precision curved paths in general, which means I'm not ready to be safely in public yet. The wheel's now at 92% charge, same original 100% charge I started with yesterday. Tomorrow I'll just build on today, try to increase tightness of turns, precision of turns (they don't always go the way I plan them), precision paths over pre-picked points, and that foot-lifting exercise I mentioned above to allow me to shift my foot positions at will. If I feel really good about my progress tomorrow, I might venture onto a sidewalk in my residential neighborhood, and actually go somewhere (somewhere close, and slow, and possibly with dismounts at the first sight of a pedestrian). Here's a video of me at about the 1-hour mark today (right after the long procession of churchgoers on their way home had ended), doing a couple of figure-8's and a couple of circles. The angle is not very good (need to get a tripod), and the camera isn't centered on my "arena" very well, sorry. The beeping is the wheel indicating a BLE connection to DarknessBot every time I get near the camera (which is my iPhone). There are a couple of "please decelerate" warnings, because of course I kept hitting the 13kmh tiltback. Arms are a-flailing, wheels are a-weaving, and precision is a-lacking, but I'm proud of it anyway. If you look closely at the very end you can see how chewed up the bottoms of the pedals are already. The Bodyglove unfortunately can't protect that area. It's doing a great job for the wheel in general, though, except a couple of times a two of the bottom tuck-under tabs have come loose and had to be re-tucked. All that pedal-bottom damage comes from the first few minutes in the garage and parking lot yesterday, including during the face-plant where I couldn't use the strap to keep the wheel from truly falling down. Battle scars!
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    Hi guys, I ordered a set of the Z Team HK Pedals on 03.27.2019 and they arrived 04.07.2019. The communication with the seller was great, I ordered via PayPal, got a tracking number and I think it was UPS that delivered them. I've been riding on them for several weeks now to get a full review going with pros / cons, I also needed to try them with different shoes because the angled ends of the pedals changed what I would want to wear while riding it. For anyone wondering: I paid for these pedals with my own money, I'm not affiliated with Z Team HK, and I'm a US size 10 in shoes! First impressions, straight out of the box the pedals are nice and thick stainless steel with a grippy matte finish. Included are two strong magnets to swap out the stock magnets, allen wrench, extended pedal padding, and screws (Loctite for the screws not included). When I ordered it there were no instructions / videos online on how to put everything together but I figured it out pretty easily from pictures, since then they've put up an instructional video on Facebook. The Z Team HK guys decided to laser engrave their logo on the top of the pedal. As of right now they don't offer any other styles / colors. If you won't like how it looks you can always stick sandpaper on top of it. I sprayed mine with Truck Bed Liner then applied the screws in with blue Loctite. After installing them I couldn't get my new pedals to close properly, it looks like the extended ends hit against the Lower Protective Pads. A couple of quick passes with an Exacto knife created an opening for them and the pedals now fit perfectly. And if you guys haven't figured it out by now, my Z10 is a daily commuter that's been bashed a few times so I wasn't too worried about the overall aesthetics of things. However, if you want to keep your Z10 looking nice, be aware the Lower Protective Pads will interfere with the pedals. I spoke with Z Team HK and they are aware this was an issue but I couldn't find mentions of it anywhere on their pages. Converse, Vans, Skate Shoe Ride Review: This part I'm going to review the pedals when using shoes with flat outsoles that were mostly flexible. The pedal pins really lock the shoe in place horizontally, there is no slipping effect when carving or hard turning which was really confidence inspiring and I definitely was turning at higher speeds I would normally do. The extended pedals create a concave effect, I played with my foot positioning a few times and decided to keep them dead center on the pedals. This helped lock my foot in place and the extended pedals also help eliminate some foot fatigue during the longer rides because my foot was no longer hanging off the front or back ends. Now for the CONS: installing these pedals required you the remove the rubber bits that came on the stock pedal and I did not realize how much road cushioning those little bits provided (I think I understand why people like the Inmotion V10F Pedals now haha). Going over speed bumps and some large cracks made me almost want to launch off of the pedals, so even though these things added horizontal grip via the pins/screws some of the stock pedal's vertical "grip" was lost. With my foot perfectly centered I actually found it kind of harder to slip my feet around the pedals to change positions, you now have to lift off a bit to move your foot. I didn't realize how much I would reposition my feet on a ride until I was unable to do it normally. So although my foot can be kept at a comfortable position for a longer period of time, my position options were now more limited. Moto, Boot, Hard Outsole Shoe Ride Review: Now I'm moving onto shoes with a mid-ankle, relatively flat outsole, but are more rigid / not flexible mainly due to additional protection like CE Certification. I like wearing these shoes because they provide more of a cushion without sacrificing stability on the stock pedals. Also, these are well padded around the ankles and are my go-to when I'm trying something adventurous like going uphill offroad and such. With the new pedals installed there wasn't much of an impact on the cushioning like I had felt with the skate shoes. The additional horizontal grip is still there as well. However, these shoes are bulkier than my other shoes and when positioned dead center on the pedal for an extended amount of time my foot got tired more quickly. I tried to reposition my feet because on the stock pedal I usually have my feet poking out the front more with these kind of shoes, but with the pedal extensions they got in the way and made me a bit more unbalanced. Trying to move my feet further back had me hit the back extender, I couldn't find an ideal foot position after several rides. These shoes were not the best or most comfortable on the stock pedal, and with the extended pedal the effects are compounded. Final Thoughts: The pedals provided cornering benefits on flat surfaces using skate shoes. You won't fear slipping off your pedals from leaning too hard on a turn, and we all know how hard turning on the Z10 can be. The extended bit allowed me to go a bit further before having to reposition my foot due to fatigue. I rode for about 3 weeks now and I would be happier if there was an extended pedal version that was flat at the ends instead of angled. I think that angled bit sacrifices foot position variety for handling gain. The added harshness of the ride could be offset with some soft/cushioned deck tape I think but will need more experimenting to find out. If you want that added grip feel the screws provide you can try buying Mountain Bike Pedal Screws and using those in place of the stock screws, you'll get a nice balance of grip / comfort and not lose any of the foot positions. I can see some people REALLY liking these pedals though for that extra grip alone. For anyone wondering if the pins would damage the bottom of your shoes, they usually don't. People have been riding mountain bikes with pins on pedals for a while now and they're perfectly fine. I only noticed a few semi-permanent indentations on my Alpinestars moto shoe, but that shoe has an exceptionally soft outsole compared to everything else I own.
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    Happy day yesterday as my Nikola arrived! I didn't have any time then but have now spent the morning acquainting myself with the wheel and trying out, so below follow some first impressions. Note that I've previously owned a KS16 and a V10F, so that's primarily what I'm comparing against, although I've done shorter test rides on other wheels as well. Notably, it's also my first Gotway. So, first off, the box comes with the wheel, the charger, a brief safety pamphlet and two separate side pads. First thought after pulling the wheel out is, wow, that's huge! Much larger than the V10F for sure. I put them side to side just to get an understanding of the dimensions, and while the body of the Nikola is slightly higher it's really the width of the wheel I think that gives off the formidable impression. Speaking of width brings me to the Nikola's carrying grip. Since the entire handle is so wide no-one is going to close their hands around it. Instead you lift it with the fingers sunk into the recessed middle of the handle, where the lift sensor is. Works reasonably well, and is certainly not a problem for me at least. Moving on to the scorpion trolley handle: when raised it's a tad too low for me to be completely comfortable. The V10F's similar scorpion handle is better in this regard, but since it's longer it means that it always rests on top of the wheel while the Nikola's handle folds in completely, which arguably looks better. The trolley handle doesn't seem to lock when raised which would have been preferable to me. So, turned the wheel on, and thankfully it just starts up the way it should. I then spent some time wondering why I didn't see the voltage read-out. Turns out the voltage read-out is now sunk into the right side of the wheel, in contrast to the earlier prototypes which had it top/front. Looks good to me. Onwards to the Gotway app. While I typically use wheellog I wanted to get the Gotway app going for full control of the settings (led pattern display, etc.). Downloaded the latest official android app from kebye.com, and.. it's a no-go. Won't even start up. Fruitlessly tried fiddling around with additional permissions for a while, but then gave up and installed the older non-social version of the app uploaded by Marty on the forum. Crappy app as well, but it connects at least. Couldn't find anything in there to control the side lights though so it's disco mode all the way for now. The wheel came with a 90% charge, so all ready to go. First impression of the handling is that wheel really wants to be upright, which I'd attribute to the wide wheel. In comparison to the V10F for instance where I easily can maintain a slight turning angle, with the Nikola it's more like you either really turn and mean it or you don't. As soon as you let up pressure the wheel will right itself. This is not a bad thing in any way, but a noticeable difference from my previous wheels. I guess it's a much less extreme version of what people have reported for the Z10 with it's even wider tire. I experimented briefly with the riding modes, and settled with the intermediate mode for the time being. On the road the wheel handles very well, very stable. I'm not a speed demon, so I didn't push it more than slightly above 40km/h during my ride. I bought the Nikola for the additional range and power, and while the conditions today weren't particularly challenging (18C/64F) I did push it up some inclines without any issues. I'm eagerly anticipating @Marty Backe's overheat hill test, but I certainly don't expect any issues for me (in contrast to the V10F which has overheated for me multiple times). I'm happy with the pedals. I was a little concerned at first coming from the V10F's large comfortable pedals, but the Nikola's pedals seems pretty much the same to me. The angle is nice, and the height as well, with tight turns working out well. Noise-wise it's good, there's some whining going when idling, but the wheel is quiet during rides. Got some comforting content rumbling from the wheel at other times. The wheel build quality (body) seems pretty solid. I managed to get shell to creak when pushing hard against the side, e.g. one-legged riding. Only heard that when pushing against the right side FWIW. I believe I saw someone posting something about Gotway changing some type of foam for the upcoming builds to address this, but I can't remember where I read it. Ended up doing a 29 km ride on some varying surfaces, and came home with 49% battery remaining (starting from 90% earlier). FWIW, I noted that voltage reported by wheellog was lower than the one reported by the voltage read-out on the wheel, whatever the reason for that is. All in all, very happy with the purchase, summer's looking good
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    La piste aux parisiens 2019 The racetrack to parisans 2019 During 45 minutes, we had access to the formula-E track around the Invalides In Paris. Subtitles availables.
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    The legal situation is similiar in Finland, vehicles above 1000W or capable of over 25km/h are not PLEVs. However, I have not once been stopped by a police during the 2 years and 17000kms, even when slaloming between traffic signs right next to the car lane that a police van drove by. Also, I’m sure that both features are totally unfamiliar to a police officer, and they wouldn’t know how to check the specs. I could just tell that my MSX is a KS-16B (800W, 25km/h) with a replacement shell, and I’m sure they would be none the wiser. If they’d ask me to ride top speed (they wouldn’t), I would say that I don’t have the guts. Ride safe and considerate, and slow down if you see one, and the police really shouldn’t be a problem. Regarding the legal status being unfair, unsafe, stupid etc, of course it is! We’ll just have to make the senseful decisions ourselves.
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    It's all in the eye of the beholder, isn't it? You would have no angst. Great. But clearly many if not most people are and would be greatly concerned with such a limit. All the people buying KingSong and Gotway wheels are not doing so because they enjoy being limited to 20km/h I can understand why some would not be concerned with this. In return, I would hope those people would have empathy for the those who are affected.
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    Normally I'd just write that off as a spelling error, but with you I'm not sure. Weeks, wheels, perhaps they're the same unit?
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    Got my Z6 finished this morning. I wrapped this because I bought it used and there were quite a few marks/scratches, plus the side panels on the Z6 are not carbon effect like the Z10 which I prefer. Used 3M carbon 1080 as I have used it before, it has a great pattern and is pretty flexible once heated. Oh and I also wrapped the whole of the side bottom sections - I think they look a little better than the mixed black/carbon of the original. Also sprayed the footplates satin black to spruce them up a bit, and re-greased the pivots and bars as they were dry as a bone. I also bought some grip tape which I have not fitted yet. I haven't ridden the wheel much at all so not sure if I will need it or not. I never ride in the rain so maybe ok. I love the Z's fat tyre but felt the original mudguard covered up too much of it, but also thought the wheel looked unfinished without it. So I made a template of the shape of the bottom of the stock mudguard and transferred it further up. I am really happy how it came out. I was originally going to wrap it as well but think I will leave it as as the plain black fits in with the black surround of the rear light. I am still waiting on the new allen head bolts which I will swop out when they arrive, and have ordered a custom ninebot logo to go on each side panel. Right, gonna try and get out with my daughter for a ride today!
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    I have been regularly going down a short flight of stairs backwards and doing backward eights on steep slopes. It didn't turn out to be particularly hazardous or threatening to me. Going backwards down a single curb I do all the time out of necessity when repeatedly training going the curb up, AKA idling a curb . I didn't think about turning 180 while descending a curb, but will definitely have a go at it.
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    Almost 2 hours this morning. Did stop using the strap. Upped speed limit to 15kmh. Switched from the Giro Switchblade MTB full-face I was using yesterday to the Bell MX-9 Adventure motorcycle helmet (with the visor up). The Bell is slightly heavier as one would expect, but nice and tight. I think I bought the Giro one size too large, it moves around too much even with the adjustment ratchet tightened down and the strap nice and tight. Commercial area, loading docks behind a building. Nobody around == perfect. Slaloms, figure-8's, circles. No falls, but a couple of single-leg-skating dismounts as my balance got out of whack. Lost the wheel once, and it just went on its merry way without me, but luckily in a slight lean so it made a big wide circle and found its way right back to me like a boomerang. The pedal never even scraped. I find I'm doing best in terms of precision path control when not thinking about my posture and movements, but then I can't make my turns as tight. More upright posture is more comfortable, but turns are harder to make tight. Knees-bent posture gets hard on legs and back, but allows for better "leaning" into the turns. Left the parking lot and went up and down the sidewalk (pavement) a few times, and down a foot trail. Rough-uneven asphalt/concrete, with cracks, uneven slabs, and some roots, which was good to experience. Some gentle up and down slopes as well. Getting more confident, but still less so on turns, especially to the left...this needs more work. Abour 20 miles on the wheel so far, all in parking lots and loading docks and a garage. It's at 89% on its first charge. I think the charge is so high because of the low speed and nearly always level grade, but battery performance seems to be great. Later this afternoon after a haircut and grocery shopping I plan to leave directly from my house and go explore my residential neighborhood on the sidewalks (no bike lanes yet). Not venturing out to the main road, just the sleepy quiet condo/townhouse/house complexes around here, and a smattering of joggers and pedestrians, with light vehicle traffic. Seems about right for my next step.
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    Playing around with the NB1 and Onewheel. Who could climb the highest? Later that day I did get up the whole hill on my MSX though... after a failed attempt.
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    Adding some pictures of my Nikola here. I actually planned to make a video as well and focused more on that and shooting some videos today, but apparently getting some video editing done on my (Linux) computer is nigh impossible.. Giving up for now, will try to revisit later when and if I'm stupid enough. Anyway, who said the Nikola was ugly, looks pretty sweet to me with the new side lights Regarding the tire, it's marked as 16 x 3.0, "CST e-BIKE PRO",
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    Car drivers are known to be less careful if the see cyclists wearing protective gear, to the extent that no protective gear is safer because cars behave better (wider berth, etc.). At least that was a result that people stated here. Not sure how general that is.
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    What happens if an airplane crashes with your car? Will your seat belt save you then? It is kind of a silly question, because you always wear your seat belt, even though there does exist cases when it might make things worse, in most cases it will make things less bad. I didn't read the whole thread, but if you are really questioning the advantage of wearing a helmet, I'd say Charles Darwin is rolling over in his grave.
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    Here you go Stephen, just to give you an idea of the cut line I used to maintain use of the side bolts with minimal mudguard:
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    Yes I am constantly at the edge of overpowering the v8. It was the best wheel to learn on I am so happy I got it. But I’m gonna give it to my wife and I think it’ll suit her riding style much better. The 16x. that’s awesome I am really excited to see how they both turn out. I really wanted a gotway to see what all the hype it about. Lol. I want the extreme performance and I also want my new wheel like now. I couldn’t wait till August, no way. Just waiting another month is going to be hard. Lol. When I get it I will definitely figure out how to do some cool videos with it. 😎. You should do the same with the 16x👍🏼
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    From my ride to Gloucester, Massachusetts on Saturday. 360sphere: Gloucester Harbor https://panoraven.com/slider/GkNf02Z4uY
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    Let's face reality. AFAICS, there is nothing particularly wrong with a law that limits by design the speed (and weight) of those EUCs that can be driven without requiring a drivers license. To think otherwise is, to all I can see, frankly, self-centered non-sense (sorry for the frank language). Sure, the specific limit that may be the best compromise (for all people involved with pretty different stakes) is up to debate and such laws are not relevant or necessary in areas where one single human lives in every other square mile. But the other half of humanity lives in quite densely populated areas and there is no realistic or even reasonable alternative to design limitations of EUCs used in public spaces, AFAICS (always happy to learn). On a side note, claiming that EUCs don't have build-in speed limits because it "needs extra power" to sustain those limits doesn't work in favor of the credibility of the messenger. Neither is it true nor is it the reason. The reason why EUCs generally don't have more restrictive speed limits is because users don't won't them, it's not because speed limits are not technically feasible or unreasonably power demanding or even unsafe. AFAICS, the only way how to win an argument here is to understand and accept that either EUCing remains a fringe phenomenon below the radar or there is no way around a speed limit --- and consequently the only argument to win would be an argument about the specific speed number. Otherwise, only EUC users will be able to take the arguments seriously.
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    I wanna ride with you dudes
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    The MSX tire has 18x3 on the side yet it actually measures >19.5-inches in diameter. Must have something to do with the type of tire. Yeah, I suspect the Nikola is the same.
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    Yes, I will be getting a Nikola from EWheels - very soon I think. I'm also getting the 16X within a couple of wheels. It's going to be interesting comparing these two "16-inch wheels".
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    Well, to be fair I wouldn't say that it overheats a lot, but it happened multiple times last summer. We're about the same weight for what it's worth, and the times it happened really wasn't the type of situations where I would expect it either. Here's one earlier comment including a video for one of these occasions (with a very modest incline, in moderate temperatures): Other times it seems more capable, so exactly what the conditions are that triggers it I can't say. Yes, I believe that the Nikola will definitely be my wheel of choice. The V10F is very comfortable, but so was today's ride with the Nikola (early days yet, but that's my impression). The extra range and the extra power makes it an easy choice. As I said earlier I'm no speed demon and typically top out around around 30-35 km/h with the V10F, but I still manage to trigger the warning every now and then, particularly as the voltage drops. It's nice not to have to think about that with the Nikola, or to worry about babying the wheel on inclines.
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    The gov't doesn't like to grant liberties to the people unless they are paying heavily for it through licences, insurance, gas taxes, parking, fines and so on. They force people into cars, then they tax people to 'stop pollution' 🤡 Clown World indeed. Taxing a problem always is the only solution with gov't ever notice that? We can get to work everyday with zero emissions, but no, pushing us into gas guzzlers then taxing CO2 to 'make it go away' is the ing government's solution. For governments there is no power n saying 'yes', you have to force the people to come beg you for their liberty so you can charge them for it. /rant
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    Working on a graphic to demonstrate at what battery levels Wheels will activate throttling from the max cruising speed in response to reduced battery voltage. Will be adding on other current models later, like the V5F & V8; offering a sample here for Community comment & feedback. All Wheels operate under the same principle of activating tilt-back at the programmed 'low battery' threshold. This is supposed to be linear, a progressively reduced speed until a set minimum, in the case of KS, this is 12kph. For Gotways, it's quite simple, all of their Wheels have the same firmware setting that starts to reduce the max speed, whether or not the tilt-back is enabled/disabled, at 30%. Other factors like the max-power activation are not included for simplification. We need your help, if this chart does not reflect your actual experience of induced voltage speed reduction, please plot your data. This exercise will also be beneficial to providing evidence to certain manufacturers (cough, Inmotion ) to change their firmware on the V10/F to be inline with other models in the same class.
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    Hi all. I've posted a few things in the past few weeks, as a way to insert myself into the EUC world, but only today did my very first wheel actually arrive. KS18XL...you know, the quintessential beat-it-up learner wheel! Not. Damn that thing is heavy. Got it from eWheels, whose long-awaited shipment from China finally made it through customs. Thanks @Jason McNeil for answering questions and keeping me informed with status updates. I must of course start a thread to tell everyone what's been posted dozens of times on this forum: my learning experience! Charged it, got the KS app (iOS) connected with no problem (so far I've had no connection problems, knock on wood), performed the firmware update from v1.11 to v1.12, did a careful calibration with a bubble level, and about an hour ago I started the learning adventure. Cleared bikes and car from the garage for some private first stumbles. My intent after reading the sticky thread about learning, and watching videos, etc., is to learn mounting, dismounting, triangle method, and slow/fine control before accelerating down some park trail at more stable speeds. My belief is that mounting by holding on to something, and then shooting away at high speed, is the wrong way to get started, as it builds unearned confidence and causes problems later on. OTOH it seems from what I've read that every approach eventually yields proficiency, so whatever. OK, so about 45 minutes in the garage. Hiking boots that cover the ankles. No other protection yet. What I've learned so far is how to mount via triangle method, without holding on to stuff, with either foot. Initially I did one-legged forward "skates" to learn how to balance with just one foot (with the other foot dangling off the side), and alternated back and forth between legs. The idea was to stay balanced and moving forward as long as possible, before stepping down with the dangling foot. Then I started pulling the dangling foot up toward the pedal during each "skate." A couple of times I overbalanced and got some ankle/knee strain on the leg that was holding all the weight, but no damage so far. As confidence and balance improved, I started momentarily placing the off foot on its pedal, then stepping off again. One important learning during this phase was not to insist on stepping down with the same foot I had stepped up with. Sometimes when the wheel was getting unbalanced in the direction of the first foot (the one that I had initially mounted with), I had a tendency not to want to step off on that side. This caused my first fall, and my second one. Only two falls so far, both simple sideways stumbles with no wheel-spinning drama and no damage to me. Once I learned to step on and off the wheel on either side, I was able to get on and move across the garage lengthwise, in a bit of a serpentine or parabola . Not much directional control yet, although I'm starting to get the sense for that and can affect direction slightly by straightening one leg or the other (no "hip-twisting" brute-force turns yet). I'm using a strap, which I have to force myself not to pull on constantly, but which helps with confidence that the wheel won't go careening off without it, and I've leashed and kept the wheel from falling over several times. Getting better at just keeping one foot on the pedal when stepping off and not needing the strap, though. Calves are slightly tired, and I was sweating like a pig during the session. Otherwise I'm still whole and ready for more. That's where I stand after 45 minutes: I can step on with either foot, bring the other foot up, move forward with both feet on the pedals for about 20ft, exert a slight amount of directional control, keep speed somewhat under control, and step off either when I run out of room or when the wheel wobbles out of my control. I've exhausted what my garage can do for me, need more room. I'm waiting another half hour or so (after working hours) before setting out in my car to find an empty parking lot (my first choice is the local elementary school, which I hope will be deserted). The more privacy, the better, as this is very embarrassing. I want need more open space and "runway," so I can really play with balance and directional/speed control. Another hour at most today. Tomorrow I have a training bike ride in the morning, 50 miles, but as soon as I'm done with that I'll be looking for a parking lot again.
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    So I've never had big calfs and since riding my euc I've noticed my calf muscles getting bigger i live in the UK it is very hilly where i live so which ever way i go i hit a big hill , all the leaning with my legs is like doing continuous calf raises, has anyone else noticed muscle build up on the body?, i think my stomach muscles are solid i just need to lose the fat over the top to see them now 😂
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    ναι βρε, έχω δεί, κανείς μας δεν ειναι για ζ10 ακόμα όπως το εννοώ εγώ, αλλά ίσως κάνω λάθος. Λευτέρη στο ξαναλέω εγώ γιατί δεν με πιστεύεις μάλλον, γράφουμε εδώ απλά για να βρισκόμαστε σε καμία βόλτα, όχι να κάνουμε σύλλογο, κίνημα, οδηγίες για νέους ή κάτι που θα σώσει τον κόσμο γενικά. Απλά ξεχειλίζει λίγη χαρά και την μοιραζόμαστε για να μην νοιώθουμε κούκου.
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    Καλησπέρα μόλις σας βρήκα, Υπολογιστε με και εμένα για βόλτες (κατοχος ninebot one S2)
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    My sincere apologizes for the late reply. I missed it somehow. My Mten3 needs some touch up but here is a shot of the pedals folded.
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    I have seen this as well. I am 145miles in on my first EUC and my legs and stomach/core have been changing for the better. Whats funny is someone at work told me when she sees euc around town she thinks folks are being lazy. Ha
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    @NylahTay Yes, that is the one to avoid for EUC. May work well on a bike but not EUC.
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    I will probably be in as well but I'll meet you all along the trail. Please let me know if you guys decide to deviate from the planned route before cicLAvia.
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    Understood. From my perspective, Henrik's comments were not hyperbole. If I just discovered that California was passing such a law, I would literally be panicking because of how I was going to be affected. Henrik looked calm by comparison
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    Not sure I understand the angst. Is a 20km/h cap really the end of EUCs? Sure it seems a bit daft to cap some vehicles in shared paths and not others - it would be safer if all vehicles on a shared path travelled at similar speeds. From my experience I rarely exceed 20, my average is more like 12km/h on a typical commute. Cyclists regularly go cruising past me (them on the road, me on the footpaths). Here in NZ the transport authority is mulling over a 10km/h cap! To clarify, yes I agree that the legislation is poorly drafted, but I don't understand how that correlates with the end of EUCs in Denmark.
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    @Nils, thankyou for giving us your review and 1st impressions. I am quite surprised to hear that your V10F overheats alot when riding up very steep inclines, do you ride slowly going up the inclines? I have ridden up some very steep long inclines on mine, but I tend to fly up at great speed, I weigh 87kg. With the upgraded firmware I honestly believe that the V10f can conquer @Marty Backe overheat hill test without failing. I favour the power of the V10F over my 100V MSX when going up steep long inclines, the power delivery is much smoother. Also, is there a delay in acceleration, just like in the V10F? Or is it immediate? Will it now be your go to wheel of choice, over the V10F?
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    Battery-less (use your existing packs). There are 84V 0Wh & 100V 0Wh and options (on Mobile, it's under "Color" options)
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    @all - this forum is not for discussing how to reactivate stolen goods! Topic locked and the one link removed!
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    I guess it is time for an little update. I just breached the 1900km milage mark today. Soon the 2k Km is passed too. As fory tag line "with a big fat smile ony face" I can only say it is still true. And I tend to ride evermore frequently and slowly getting out of winter hibernation, being able to ride longer rides againg. My training plans has been set back by my dislocated shoulder accident. But even that day enden in a huge fat smile as I were asked by nurse to show her how I ride in A&E hallways as I were discharged and sent home. Just imagine what it takes to bring a smile on the face after this And entering hospital A&E around 18:00 hours getting out aroung 03:20 next morning. And yet still I rode the wheel into hopsital and to accindent site on my way home. Anyway still very very happy with my wheel. But also looking forward to the KS16X.
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    The weekend before Easter we shot through to Napier (New Zealand) for lunch and a ride with a couple of locals. In case a few of you haven't been to Napier, here is what you missed out on...
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    When Ninebot bought Segway, another consideration was that they had a captive monopoly, selling Segways to a completely different segment—security patrols at airports & shopping centers. This acquisition came with group of lawyers, who very probably, took a different view to risk tolerance than the fledgling Ninebot. I have a contact who used to work at Ninebot, I made some tentative inquiries about continuing the Z10 sales again, his advice was 'don't, not worth it', based on his aggregate view from other regions.
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    Your argument is that I only need the helmet if I’m falling or after I have an impact, which is exactly why I wear it. I know that I’m going to fall, just don’t know when. I think to not protect myself because of how a driver might react misses the entire reason for having it in the first place.
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    Hello everyone! This is my first post. I want to share my mod to make the speaker louder on my Gotway MSX. I’m a college student in California State University LA, and I use this to commute from my apartment to school. I ride it 12 miles a day through a residential type street, but the road close to the university has so many hills and is narrow which requires me to go above 25mph just to not hold up traffic and get away from kids on their phones while driving. As were all aware, the beep may not be heard when the wind noise is up and were inside our full-face helmets. Here's my MSX on its "controller-board" side showing the holes on the panel. Here is the simple contraption I made placed on the speaker. Here are the small holes I drilled on the side panel, made sure to center it on top of the speaker location. I hot glued a piece of insect screen on the holes I drilled. I made the speaker shroud using the cap on a $1 shaving cream. Reduced the depth to 2.5 cm, and made a hole snug to the speaker. I cut a piece of sponge to reduce dust introduced into the control board cavity. These things are not dust proof at all out of the factory anyway. This shows how the cap is snug fit around the speaker. This picture shows how the sponge side interfaces with the drilled side panel. You can try how this set-up works by playing a music on your phone and placing it inside an empty drinking glass. You'll notice how the sound becomes louder. I've been running this set-up for a week now and is working very well. I can hear it loud and clear even above 30mph with my full-face helmet. The problems I can see with this is that it becomes less water resistant (maybe?). Also it has become so loud it makes me embarrassed in public turning it on and off without covering the speaker holes with my palm. I might add a toggle switch to it to control the speaker, but that becomes a safety issue if I ever forget to turn it on when riding high speeds. Let me know what you guys think!
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