Shad0z Posted March 7, 2018 Author Share Posted March 7, 2018 20 minutes ago, Scott Henley said: . KS tilt back isn’t going to throw anyone off their wheel . So that’s just a silly statement . that part i wouldnt agree on... i tried a ks16 for about 20minutes and i quickly learned it is no smooth ramping up tiltback it is like as soon as you hit the max speed it goes from horizonatal to full tiltback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Henley Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Just now, Shad0z said: that part i wouldnt agree on... i tried a ks16 for about 20minutes and i quickly learned it is no smooth ramping up tiltback it is like as soon as you hit the max speed it goes from horizonatal to full tiltback Hmm. Not doubting you , but I just took my 14d out to test this and sure there’s tilt back but it’s not bad . Maybe slightly stronger than on my ACM but just ever so slightly . Neither wheels buck hard . Now Segway ...that’s tilt back . Ks is nothing in comparison 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad0z Posted March 7, 2018 Author Share Posted March 7, 2018 Just now, Scott Henley said: Hmm. Not doubting you , but I just took my 14d out to test this and sure there’s tilt back but it’s not bad . Maybe slightly stronger than on my ACM but just ever so slightly . Neither wheels buck hard . Now Segway ...that’s tilt back . Ks is nothing in comparison the tiltback i tried was on a ks16s and a ks18 i remeber trying the ks16s and speeding up slowly and thinking hmm not ba..then as i slowly accelerated immediatly tiltback kicked in.. segway tiltback is much worse.. My minipro was apparently designed to stop a rider when he exceeds speed limit... Yeah to practical getting stopped in the middle of the road... While trying to faster to avoid a car.. damn im happy i got a euc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad0z Posted March 7, 2018 Author Share Posted March 7, 2018 well good news! my dealer will send me a new control board. For free i will be out riding again soon. it is terrible to ride my 2 wheeled "thing" again that i never want to touch again... and its called a bike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Henley Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Shad0z said: the tiltback i tried was on a ks16s and a ks18 i remeber trying the ks16s and speeding up slowly and thinking hmm not ba..then as i slowly accelerated immediatly tiltback kicked in.. segway tiltback is much worse.. My minipro was apparently designed to stop a rider when he exceeds speed limit... Yeah to practical getting stopped in the middle of the road... While trying to faster to avoid a car.. damn im happy i got a euc Right ! I had a minipro too. Now that thing ...would throw you 100ft backward . Lol Edited March 7, 2018 by Scott Henley O 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Henley Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, Shad0z said: well good news! my dealer will send me a new control board. For free i will be out riding again soon. it is terrible to ride my 2 wheeled "thing" again that i never want to touch again... and its called a bike Awesome!!! I also got some good news today ...I’m also getting a brand new board for my ACM ! Mosfet didn’t blow ...but the plastic melted on top of one and it scares me now . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad0z Posted March 7, 2018 Author Share Posted March 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Scott Henley said: Right ! I had a minipro too. Now that thing ...would throw you 100ft backward . Lol I cant even begin to explain horrors with my mini pro weird looks, catapult feature to save the rider (tiltback) and remember parachute and generally slow riding... so SOOO happy i moved on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US69 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 10 minutes ago, Shad0z said: well good news! my dealer will send me a new control board. For free i will be out riding again soon. it is terrible to ride my 2 wheeled "thing" again that i never want to touch again... and its called a bike Thats really good news! Congrats! Which ali shop was it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad0z Posted March 7, 2018 Author Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, KingSong69 said: Thats really good news! Congrats! Which ali shop was it? intelligent walking store really good overall Edited March 7, 2018 by Shad0z 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US69 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Shad0z said: I cant even begin to explain horrors with my mini pro weird looks, catapult feature to save the rider (tiltback) and remember parachute and generally slow riding... so SOOO happy i moved on! Btw: I also started with a mini pro....man this is so boring when comparing it to an EUC :-) Directly after receiving and learning the EUC i sold the mini pro! I 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab1 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, Scott Henley said: Awesome!!! I also got some good news today ...I’m also getting a brand new board for my ACM ! Mosfet didn’t blow ...but the plastic melted on top of one and it scares me now . The board should arrive by Monday. Good luck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US69 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Rehab1 said: The board should arrive by Monday. Good luck. Aaah, the generous Rehab........ :-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Henley Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, Rehab1 said: The board should arrive by Monday. Good luck. Awesome . Thank you again @Rehab1. Sending you one last message . 2 minutes ago, KingSong69 said: Aaah, the generous Rehab........ :-) Quite a guy that @Rehab1...idk what you guys say about him when he’s not on here . ? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab1 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Just now, KingSong69 said: Aaah, the generous Rehab........ :-) I’m out of spare parts but I do have an extra blow up doll. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasenutty Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Shad0z said: The chance of me blowing a mosfet was about .001% dont let that be the example for gw teslas and yes if i went on mountain trails and went full speed on extreme hills then that chance would change.. But i dont do that. Elektric components are mass produced. And a single mosfet failure because it was a weak mosfet or wrong time wrong place. It can happen the chance of blowing a mosfet at 20kph is not non existent. Its just very low. And some people have to ve in that very low category You're not answering the question, ShadOZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr8ps Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Shad0z said: The chance of me blowing a mosfet was about .001% dont let that be the example for gw teslas Here are the stats from Ecodrift's sales. This post played a huge role in why I went with a 16S over a Tesla. The failure rate of Gotways is astronomical. To be honest, a failure rate of 1.12% would by unacceptable by western standards. "Here there is a full percentage of marriage for any service call due to electronic or electrical problems (here, mechanical damages and tire punctures are not taken into account) The percentage of rejects from sold devices during the period February-July 2017 is indicated. In brackets, my comments are highlighted by a frame. KingSong KS14B - 3.33% KS14C - 15% (due to low sales, as the model changed to 14d) KS14D - was not in the service (selling was enough) KS16 - 7.33% KS16S - 1.12% KS18 - 17,24% (transition to sports) KS18S - was not in the service (sales were moderate) GotWay MCM4 - 18.57% ACM 680,820 - 36,6% ACM 1300 - 35% (a small number of sales, according to my personal feelings this is the best of the gothweb) Msuper 680,820 - 11,11% (the average number of sales, here statistics is more visible) Msuper 1600 - 36.98% (every 3 users of a pregnant soup met in the service, the statistics could be a little lower, because in my memory there were repeated calls for the same problem) Monster - 23.4% (a small number of sales)" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 3 hours ago, kasenutty said: What's faster? A Kingsong 16s or a Tesla with a blown mosfet? What's faster, a KingSong that you never ride because it's boring or a Gotway because it's exciting We can do this all day long 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 3 hours ago, KingSong69 said: Marty, i respect you totally, you know that...so please dont take that as an offense..... But when reporting your Gotway experience, you are like the typical „i defend my wheel“ guy :-) Some things you mention very seldom: (just remember it from other threads) Yes, just one Gotway cut out on you because of firmware issues(which btw was promised by GW „as fixed“) One other one sent you down because of melting wires/connectors Another one cut out due to battery design failure, nickel strips on all Mten3 are to weak and melt, fortunatly when standing still, but could be worse, or? Congrats, the monster only needed the axle nuts re-fixed several times. Aah, and 2 of the wheels you sold, failed shortly after the sale on the next owner! By all means, yes, one wheel driving is a dangerous sport, it still stays, even when all is working good, there is still ALLways the possiblity of a tire failure, battery failure, a big hole on the way...somethings that are just „wear down“ and are on every wheel or ly in the type of this sport! But what really nobody needs are failures and getting the probability of a injury or failure because of poor quality..... So sometimes i dont get it...Gotway is not really defendable on what they produce! Hey, i also like driving some of their stuff and buy and own it, but to be honest: They are just crap qualitywise...... That's because I know that I can depend on you to take care of the Gotway bashing, even though you just bought some 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad0z Posted March 8, 2018 Author Share Posted March 8, 2018 6 hours ago, kasenutty said: You're not answering the question, ShadOZ what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoother Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 On 3/6/2018 at 3:47 PM, Rehab1 said: Nice. I just order a Tesla from @Jason McNeilthinking I would be safe! I will probably return it now and wait for the Z One. I KNEW IT! That's what you were getting Hermetically Epistolic about. You dog you. How were you planning on squaring that with your long-suffering wife? "Oh, this old thing!? No, no, I've had this for ages, you've seen me ride it loads of times" 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab1 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 16 hours ago, gr8ps said: Here are the stats from Ecodrift's sales. This post played a huge role in why I went with a 16S over a Tesla. I hope the statistics are wrong on the Tesla. I had a KS16S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab1 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Smoother said: I KNEW IT! That's what you were getting Hermetically Epistolic about. You dog you. How were you planning on squaring that with your long-suffering wife? "Oh, this old thing!? No, no, I've had this for ages, you've seen me ride it loads of times" She is aware that the Mten3 is my only wheel. I hate being deceptive but after last week’s beratement I need to go very slow on the subject. I have until mid June to convince her as the Tesla will be traveling with us to the Smokey Mountains for vacation. Edited March 8, 2018 by Rehab1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Henley Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 8 minutes ago, Rehab1 said: She is aware that the Mten3 is my only wheel. I hate being deceptive but after last week’s beratement I need to go very slow on the subject. I have until mid June to convince her as the Tesla will be traveling with us to the Smokey Mountains for vacation. So she has no idea the Tesla is arriving today ? I’m sure she’ll come around. ? And If not ...I’ll gladly buy it from you . ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab1 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Scott Henley said: So she has no idea the Tesla is arriving today ? I’m sure she’ll come around. ? And If not ...I’ll gladly buy it from you . ? No idea. It just arrived a few minutes ago. Has anyone not unboxed a wheel that just arrived? Edited March 8, 2018 by Rehab1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad0z Posted March 8, 2018 Author Share Posted March 8, 2018 (edited) and @Smoother i dont even know where to begin you adviced me to buy a tesla, you knew it would happen you little.. not dont worry... just sarcasm i got you up running didnt i? 4 minutes ago, Rehab1 said: No idea. It just arrived a few minutes ago. Has anyone not unboxed a wheel that just arrived? you didnt rip the box to shreads when you saw it? what happen to you??? .... KEBEY! KEBEY! KEBEY!!! you will love it Edited March 8, 2018 by Shad0z 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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