Marty Backe Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Rehab1 said: Hard to say but I would not change Marty. Stay safe. 20 + Thanks. That is fast, and I can imagine tires have an effect. If you think about it, thick knobby tread is more flexible so maybe it is a major contributing factor. Weird things happen to all kinds of vehicles when the speed limits are pushed. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve454 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) 22 hours ago, Marty Backe said: Thanks. That is fast, and I can imagine tires have an effect. If you think about it, thick knobby tread is more flexible so maybe it is a major contributing factor. Weird things happen to all kinds of vehicles when the speed limits are pushed. Uh oh! Edited January 31, 2018 by steve454 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scatcat Posted January 31, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2018 6 hours ago, Marty Backe said: This is very interesting. Perhaps knobby tires when used riding fast can be a problem. I have no idea, but now I think maybe I don't want to change my tires from the factory default. If you can recall @Rehab1, what would you guess your speed was? 15+, 20+, etc. I can say, now having a knobby tire (Schwalbe Mad Mike), that it is a lot less stable than the slicker Chao Yang that was standard on the GT16. On soft surfaces that wouldn't be a problem, I expect that on snow, mud or gravel, it would be better than the standard. But on asphalt or concrete, the smooth gradual feel of the wide track of the standard tire is lost. It likes to twitch a bit and you have to control it more tightly. So far I've had no wobbling problems. I tend to stand with the center of my weight right on top of the pedals, which alleviates wobbling to a large degree - especially if you bend your knees a bit. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Unicyclist Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, Launchpad said: Don't worry that will buff right out. Ummm... Do you mean the bruise, or the nipple? Edited January 31, 2018 by The Fat Unicyclist 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Scatcat said: I can say, now having a knobby tire (Schwalbe Mad Mike), that it is a lot less stable than the slicker Chao Yang that was standard on the GT16. On soft surfaces that wouldn't be a problem, I expect that on snow, mud or gravel, it would be better than the standard. But on asphalt or concrete, the smooth gradual feel of the wide track of the standard tire is lost. It likes to twitch a bit and you have to control it more tightly. So far I've had no wobbling problems. I tend to stand with the center of my weight right on top of the pedals, which alleviates wobbling to a large degree - especially if you bend your knees a bit. Very interesting. Thanks for your observations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mono Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 6 hours ago, Scatcat said: I can say, now having a knobby tire (Schwalbe Mad Mike), that it is a lot less stable than the slicker Chao Yang that was standard on the GT16. On soft surfaces that wouldn't be a problem, I expect that on snow, mud or gravel, it would be better than the standard. But on asphalt or concrete, the smooth gradual feel of the wide track of the standard tire is lost. It likes to twitch a bit and you have to control it more tightly. That's what I would have expected, good to have some confirmation 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rehab1 Posted January 31, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2018 7 hours ago, Scatcat said: But on asphalt or concrete, the smooth gradual feel of the wide track of the standard tire is lost. It likes to twitch a bit and you have to control it more tightly. Yes, twitching is a perfect descriptive term of the inital sensatons leading up to the full blown uncontrollable wobble. During the course of the ride there were a few minor twitches that quicly dissipated at slow speeds. Those never phased me but should have been a sign. Unfortunately if we cringe and doubt every little quirky sensation we experience when riding the enjoyment will quickly be distinguished. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electroman Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 15 hours ago, steve454 said: It started at about 140 mph Yeah. Not exactly "step off speed" and perhaps not directly comparable to EUC, but the phenomena is till interesting and if it can happen to EUC's as well it would be great to gain some information on how to best avoid it and deal with it when happening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rehab1 Posted January 31, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2018 I could actually feel that frightening sensation through my Iphone! I’m now convinced riding my ACM at 140 MPH was not smart. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab1 Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 @EUC Extreme what do you wear to protect your shoulders from a blunt force? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EUC Extreme Posted January 31, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2018 10 minutes ago, Rehab1 said: @EUC Extreme what do you wear to protect your shoulders from a blunt force? The same thing that is used in American football. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Circuitmage Posted January 31, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2018 I had a broken clavicle, pierced lung, 8 broken ribs, double fractured left wrist, broken tooth, glass in my hand (after going through car window), double fractured jaw, 2 week stay in the hospital, a large debt that took 10 years to resolve and a 1 year battle with the insurance company all from my motorcycle accident when I was going 2 blocks at 15mph (after a car hit me). The cheap DOT helmet cracked all the way down the middle and saved my life. I stayed away from MC's for 5 years, and decided to get back on. Guess it comes down to what you really want to do in your life. I sometimes decide to walk instead of take my EUC and it is a good wake up call to get back on! 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanghamP Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 4 hours ago, Electroman said: Yeah. Not exactly "step off speed" and perhaps not directly comparable to EUC, but the phenomena is till interesting and if it can happen to EUC's as well it would be great to gain some information on how to best avoid it and deal with it when happening. The default state of EUCs is crashing. While I've only have had half a dozen faceplants, the number of involuntary step offs has to number a couple hundred. At least. --Go slow? --Try to hit bumps dead-on instead of to the side? --If you get into a wobble try to lean the wheel hard against one leg (maybe both?) so the pudgy flesh/muscle dampens the oscilations. --Relax when you get into a wobble? --Bail before the wobble gets too bad? And wear a full-face helmet? I don't know what can be done with a wobble. Motorcycles have their front wheel connected to stiff forks and a steering damper while we...have nothing. Nothing at all. Maybe go slower? Catching a gumball this week, at very slow speed, I went into a wobble and it was just easier to step off the wheel. So basically a fall, and that was at low speed. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirsute Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 @Rehab1 I wish you a quick and complete recovery. Take care of you, and keep a good energy! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rehab1 Posted January 31, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2018 4 hours ago, EUC Extreme said: The same thing that is used in American football. That’s what I thought. If I ever ride again it will under a cloak of darkness and I will need to find the best available, high impact shoulder pads money can buy. Right now this is my dress garb for work.tomorrow who knows. I can’t even comb my hair. So unprofessional but the kids and parants are ok. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WARPed1701D Posted January 31, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, Rehab1 said: That’s what I thought. If I ever ride again it will under a cloak of darkness and I will need to find the best available, high impact shoulder pads money can buy. Right now this is my dress garb for work.tomorrow who knows. I can’t even comb my hair. So unprofessional but the kids and parants are ok. The most important thing is that you are standing there in that picture today...even with all the strapping and casual clothes. Without the gear you had on when you fell it sounds like there is a good chance you could have been lying in a bed unconscious right now... or even in a box! I think you can have a pass for some scruffy hair! We will let you. Keep the updates coming. Everyone is rooting for you. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab1 Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 13 minutes ago, Hirsute said: @Rehab1 I wish you a quick and complete recovery. Take care of you, and keep a good energy! Thanks buddy. You’ve been down this road yourself but still managed to recuperate and win yourself a V8!? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab1 Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, WARPed1701D said: The most important thing is that you are standing there in that picture today...even with all the strapping and casual clothes. Without the gear you had on when you fell it sounds like there is a good chance you could have been lying in a bed unconscious right now... or even in a box! I think you can have a pass for some scruffy hair! We will let you. Keep the updates coming. Everyone is rooting for you. Thanks and you are exactly correct. The Bell Super3 R and jaw extension saved me. It could have been much worse. I’ve seen enough closed head injuries in my day. Still can’t figure out how I rode the wheel back to my truck. I suppose those are blessings you don’t question but say a heartfelt prayer in tribute. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbfrese Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 @Rehab1, best wishes for a speedy recovery! I hope your surgery goes well! Please let us know how you progress afterwards. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trya Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 @Rehab1 I'm so sorry to hear this! Wishing you two things: (1) speedy and complete recovery (both mind and body), and (2) never say "never", stay with us! Once you fully recover - think about the freestyle. It is a lot of fun, and even though it may look risky - in fact the low speed makes it relatively safe, I want to believe. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rehab1 Posted February 1, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2018 17 minutes ago, trya said: @Rehab1 I'm so sorry to hear this! Wishing you two things: (1) speedy and complete recovery (both mind and body), and (2) never say "never", stay with us! Once you fully recover - think about the freestyle. It is a lot of fun, and even though it may look risky - in fact the low speed makes it relatively safe, I want to believe. Thanks Trya! Can you please write your kind comments and expert advice on an papal letterhead and mail it to my wife. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoother Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 @Rehab1 when your boys are playing on Sunday, you will need to remember not to get all excited and jump up and down waving your arms around. The temptation will be strong but you must resist. Use the Force, if you have to. And the fact that you went into work, is good. If you can knock some prosthesis out, even if at a slow rate, then at least it's not all bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rehab1 Posted February 1, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2018 7 hours ago, LanghamP said: Try to hit bumps dead-on instead of to the side? If you get into a wobble try to lean the wheel hard against one leg (maybe both?) so the pudgy flesh/muscle dampens the oscilations. Relax when you get into a wobble? This all sounds easy. I wish there was an EUC simulator that could be programmed to create these types of scenarios. 47 minutes ago, Smoother said: when your boys are playing on Sunday, you will need to remember not to get all excited and jump up and down waving your arms around. The temptation will be strong but you must resist. Use the Force, if you have to. Lol. Yes tough to watch my grandson play sports without getting excited. Then there's SuperBowl Sunday with my Patriots. Unfortunately I may have to miss the party at the sports bar. 50 minutes ago, Smoother said: And the fact that you went into work, is good. If you can knock some prosthesis out, even if at a slow rate, then at least it's not all bad. I actually taught my secretaries how to cast some patients today. One oops... a secretary put a child’s brace on upside down which was quickly resolved. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yourtoys7 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Wow, sorry about your fall and hope you recover well. I hope you will ride again, probably not as fast but it is very enjoyable transportation. After my fall I added a full face helmet, I already had a motorcycle jacket that has, shoulder/ elbows/ chest and back protection. Nothing is 100% and everything is a risk, but whatever you choose to do, all the best. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mezzanine Posted February 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2018 @Rehab1 I'm sorry to read about the accident. I'm glad you shared your experience of what happened and your injuries; I'm taking it as a personal reminder to take safety more seriously and am going to increase my investment in protective equipment. Because I can't help but want to try to recruit you back to the dark side once you're feeling better, maybe check in every now and then to see how the new Z series Ninebots perform on safety. I think their wider tire might increase the safety margin in a number of dangerous situations. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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