Suf Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Christmas buy Segway Minipro 4 days eariler. Open Xmas day and dead. No lights. Only the charger light on the power brick is green. Call / e-mail / option 2 gets me an e-mail okay to break battery seals and take off Minipro. Directions state charger battery directly OFF the segway. Check to see if light on battery itself, is on and what color: nothing. If I unplug the charger cord from the battery and then 15-30 seconds later plug it back into the battery I get four red flashes then no light ON the battery itself. What are the 4 red blinks code for? TIA ! -Suf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriull Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 @Suf. I'd assume the battery is dead (and was already dead at arrival) and by this is a warranty issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Unicyclist Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 (edited) There isn't a piece of plastic between the battery terminals, is there? To make shipping safer. Edited December 27, 2017 by The Fat Unicyclist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo33 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Hello Look And What is your production date ? And Look here https://fr.more4mini.eu/blogs/news/segway-minipro-error-codes-and-solutions 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo33 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Also if you have removed the battery You can try turn on your mini for totaly discharge the device Assemble battery turn on 2s long press the Mini Repeat 2 or 3 time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suf Posted December 27, 2017 Author Share Posted December 27, 2017 Segway is sending something to us from Los Angeles. Either a MiniPro or a battery. I e-mailed support, and called them (option # 2) in NH. When I separate the battery, and directly plug in the charger, nothing happens for 2+ hours. In their service request form instructions they ask us to separate the battery and see the LED light ON the battery. Ours did nothing. IF I unplugged the charger from the battery wait a few seconds and plug the charger back into the battery ALONE, I get 4 red flashes. I told Segway this and they are replacing something from the distributor. I wait for a package. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suf Posted December 27, 2017 Author Share Posted December 27, 2017 Dear S, Thank you for the information and sorry that the miniPRO battery is dead. The unit will be replaced, and our distributor will be in touch with you today to make the arrangements. Kind Regards, Gene Gene NorthamVice President of Global ServiceSegway Inc. 14 Technology Drive Bedford, NH 03110 USAsegway.comT: 603-222-6069 F: 603-222-6001 C: 603-264-9688 CONFIDENTIAL: This message may contain confidential, proprietary, and/or legally privileged information and is intended only for the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, you are hereby notified that you must not use, disseminate, or copy it in any form or take any action in reliance upon it. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and any copies of it from your email system and reply immediately to the sender at the address shown above. Neither confidentiality, nor any privilege is intended to be waived or lost by any error in transmission. Please consider the environment before printing this email. From: SSent: Tuesday, December 26, 2017 11:58 PMTo: Segway Technical Support <TechnicalSupport@segway.com>Subject: Re: MiniPro dead battery after opening. Process outlined in your tech support attachment does not work on this MiniPro. When the battery removed from the MiniPro, is "charging" or was disconnected from the MiniPro, there is no light on as in figure # 4 of the service process. WHEN the charger is unplugged from the battery alone, then reconnected; the battery "light" blinks four red flashes then nothing. Charging 180 minutes provides no difference. This battery pack is dead. Charger cord brick shows green light. Only light I've seen until separating the battery procedure described above. Service request attached w/ sales receipt from Best Buy. Please advise. - SSuf -----Original Message----- From: Segway Technical Support <TechnicalSupport@segway.com> To: suf Sent: Tue, Dec 26, 2017 3:18 pm Subject: RE: MiniPro dead battery after opening. Dear miniPRO Customer, Sorry to hear you were having difficulty with your miniPRO not starting. There is a chance the battery has gone into a hibernate state and the attached could resolve the issue. If the attached does resolve the issue please complete the attached service request form and send it back so that I may update your service history for any remaining warranty on the unit to not be voided by cutting the tamper proof labels.(IMPORTANT!) If it does not correct the issue please complete the attached service request form so that we may start a warranty claim. Kind Regards, Shane Shane, ShenSegway Technical ServiceSegway Inc. 14 Technology Drive Bedford, NH 03110 USAsegway.comT: 603-222-6069F: 603-222-6001 C: 603-264-9688 From: sufSent: Monday, December 25, 2017 9:24 PMTo: Segway Technical Support <TechnicalSupport@segway.com>Subject: MiniPro dead battery after opening. New purchase Thursday, open Christmas battery DOA. Plug in brick shows green 4 pin plug seated, no response from MiniPro; dead. Plugged in 4+ hours, still dead. What is next step? In Boston. - S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suf Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 (edited) 25288-00001_aa miniPRO Battery Charging and Reseating (1) (1).pdf MiniPro Service Request Form (1).docx Hope these help those who open dead or hibernated batteries in their MiniPros or lites. -Suf Edited December 28, 2017 by Suf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo33 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Well, it's good in USA, Segway answered you fastly (in France a lot of customers not received answers during a while) Surely they'll send you new battery good let know us about what follow (could you say me which production date have you for your mini? ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetricUSA Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 I feel or that the same things going to happen to the Mini Plus since they up the price of them they're going to be sitting on the shelf a lot longer then when they were at a lower price.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbrannen95 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 I purchased my mini pro from a private seller and once I took it home and tried to charge...nothing no lights no charge of anytype...i followed instructions I saw here on this forum took battery off presumably because I had no warranty due to buying from private seller...once I plugged in charger...4 red flashes then nothing ....is there anything else I can do or am I just out of luck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo33 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Jbrannen95 said: I purchased my mini pro from a private seller and once I took it home and tried to charge...nothing no lights no charge of anytype...i followed instructions I saw here on this forum took battery off presumably because I had no warranty due to buying from private seller...once I plugged in charger...4 red flashes then nothing ....is there anything else I can do or am I just out of luck? WHy didn't you contact the seller first ? what he said ? I think it is time to ask for help to the international battery specialist ! @smallexis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbrannen95 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 On 1/13/2018 at 6:47 AM, jojo33 said: WHy didn't you contact the seller first ? what he said ? I think it is time to ask for help to the international battery specialist ! @smallexis I bought on impulse at a flea market for a real good deal and wasn't able to find the card in had gotten from him....who is the international battery specialist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallexis Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 (edited) @Jbrannen95, I have had a phone call with @jojo33 and he told me your problem if the battery is detached from the mini, which voltage do you have here? if the volatge is between 42 and 45V, it's possible to try this : I have saved my battery with this method but I can't give you the guarantee it will be the same for your battery. good luck Edited January 16, 2018 by smallexis 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMattz Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 @smallexis, My son's NineBot minipro has been sitting idle all winter inside. He went to charge it today and it won't respond, the charger brick stays green, the display on the minipro doesn't light up nor will it turn on. I pulled the battery pack and the LED on the battery pack is just blinking red. I got a voltage reading of 24.6 to 25.0 volts at the battery terminals. I am interested in your above mentioned method of possibly directly charging the battery with the home made connector. However, are my seemingly low readings of 24.x volts too low to attempt this safely since it is far off from your suggested 42 to 45 volts? Kind of disappointed that this battery may be trashed since it's not that old and it's $300 USD before shipping for a new one. Thanks for any information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriull Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 16 minutes ago, MadMattz said: However, are my seemingly low readings of 24.x volts too low to attempt this safely since it is far off from your suggested 42 to 45 volts? Kind of disappointed that this battery may be trashed since it's not that old and it's $300 USD before shipping for a new one. Thanks for any information. Presumaby the battery is just dead and has to be replaced. Liion cells are very sensible to low voltage conditions. Theoretically there could be ways to revive the pack on cell by cell basis if the single cells have protection cuircits inside, but most likely they are just dead (internal short cuircits which makes them quite dangerous if one tries to recharge them again!) Never let them on low charge for longer periods... Second worst thing for liion is high temperatures at full charge for longer periods. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMattz Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 On 5/19/2018 at 5:59 PM, Chriull said: Presumaby the battery is just dead and has to be replaced. Liion cells are very sensible to low voltage conditions. Theoretically there could be ways to revive the pack on cell by cell basis if the single cells have protection cuircits inside, but most likely they are just dead (internal short cuircits which makes them quite dangerous if one tries to recharge them again!) Never let them on low charge for longer periods... Second worst thing for liion is high temperatures at full charge for longer periods. Yeah I figured. Thanks. This was my son's device, not mine so I was out of the loop. I told him before to manage that battery like I have to with the LiPos I use on the drones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnie Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 I let mine sit too long and found it to be completely dead. I contacted Segway and they provided me with the same instruction as listed on here. (waking the battery up from hibernation) It did not work. The red light flashed 4 times and stopped. The battery is only warrantied for 180 days and I was out of that period. I ended up ordering a refurbished battery from Segway ($130 vs $299 new). It is now up and running again. I checked with Battery Specialist to see if they can restart the dead battery and they advised that it would be dangerous. The only suggestion I have so far is to take it to a recycling center. This damn thing is costing me way more than it should. Lesson learned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matteo Cifelli Posted September 5, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2018 On 1/16/2018 at 9:07 PM, smallexis said: @Jbrannen95, I have had a phone call with @jojo33 and he told me your problem if the battery is detached from the mini, which voltage do you have here? if the volatge is between 42 and 45V, it's possible to try this : I have saved my battery with this method but I can't give you the guarantee it will be the same for your battery. good luck This has worked perfectly for me. I left the Segway unused for 5 months and it did not turn on. I have opened the battery pack and wired it directly to the original charger for 20 min , after that i have seen the little green led flashing on the battery and i have mounted it back to the mini bot and recharged it normally. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Valentin Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 On 7/3/2018 at 4:53 PM, Donnie said: I let mine sit too long and found it to be completely dead. I contacted Segway and they provided me with the same instruction as listed on here. (waking the battery up from hibernation) It did not work. The red light flashed 4 times and stopped. The battery is only warrantied for 180 days and I was out of that period. I ended up ordering a refurbished battery from Segway ($130 vs $299 new). It is now up and running again. I checked with Battery Specialist to see if they can restart the dead battery and they advised that it would be dangerous. The only suggestion I have so far is to take it to a recycling center. This damn thing is costing me way more than it should. Lesson learned. Is there a link to refurbished batteries mine died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Cheung Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 On 9/5/2018 at 8:09 AM, Matteo Cifelli said: This has worked perfectly for me. I left the Segway unused for 5 months and it did not turn on. I have opened the battery pack and wired it directly to the original charger for 20 min , after that i have seen the little green led flashing on the battery and i have mounted it back to the mini bot and recharged it normally. Is there a link to the cell charger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Valentin Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 17 hours ago, Ethan Cheung said: Is there a link to the cell charger? I ordered my battery from Segway they sell all parts. Got it refurbished also. If in United States. This is the number I called. 1 (866) 201-2467. It took 4 days to get here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joy Joy Joy Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 hey man !! im going crazy trying to find this cable !!! please help !! the one with the 2 banana ends!! plz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetricUSA Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I don't know if there's any electric technicians in the audience... But you can tear the battery pack apart and measure each cell individually....in any super low voltage batteries you can try to charge separately with a single lithium battery cell charger... I did the same thing with a 60 volt ego battery pack... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laransey Carlton Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 It’s good that The Segway is willing to replace batteries of units right out of box. I’ve own my mini pro and 5 mini lites since June 2017. On the mini lite the power button malfunction I call number on manual sent email pics etc, no return email or help what so ever. That unit as much as I hated turned into a parts scooter. It wasn’t fine, I moved on until about November when the Mini pro battery died. Don’t know why but I called number in manual hoping for help so I could continue to ride. To my dismay they had no battery pack in stock and packs that did have were for the mini lites for $300. I could not understand the price for the battery when the mini lite new was only $298 at Best Buy. Its now January and I’m had another battery pack died on a mini lite which sucks. I refuse to pay more for the battery then what a new unit cost. What should I do? I can’t inderstand how units are sold and company have replacement parts which are impossible to get or way to expensive. Lesson learned only buy one and let your 4 kids share. Im i the only one having this problem, I really welcome the help, because the fake Segway may be my only option. I don’t know.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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