Popular Post Marty Backe Posted September 8, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) I'm going to collect my ongoing thoughts about this wheel on this page. I just finished my range test and feel that I can offer some solid opinions about this wheel. BTW, I'm somewhat of a Gotway fan (did I understate that ?), so bear that in mind. So here goes... I own a Monster, MSuper V3s+, ACM V2s, and KS14S, and have ridden just about every other mainstream wheel that has been produced in the last couple of years (group rides are great ). The Mten3 is the funnest wheel that I've ever ridden. Is it the fastest? No. Does it have the most range? No. But is it fun? My God is this a fun wheel During my range test I rode it mostly on paved trails and sidewalks, but did a fair amount of dirt trail riding and grass riding. When on the flats riding straight I was doing 15mph (24km/h). It was not struggling, but I did not feel comfortable going faster because the wheel is super-super-agile and therefore not very stable unless your road is perfect and there is no wind. My range test lasted 2 hours 15 minutes and covered 20-1/2 miles (33 kilometers). Tell me that is a respectable distance to cover on such a tiny wheel. Over 2 hours is a lot of fun time. My riding weight is under 170 pounds (77kg). For 18 miles (29km) I could do anything. Then under strong acceleration I started getting the beeps. The last ~mile was limp mode - 7mph (11.2km/h) or less. Unlike KingSong, Gotway lets you really have fun all the way to 15% battery (this is my only KingSong dig - sorry guys ). The wheel feels very solid when accelerating, and stops on a dime from high speed. At all times it felt that there was extra power in the tank. It really is like an ACM bottled up in a tiny package. When going up hills it has power, power, and power. With this Mten3 I finally feel like my feet are one with a wheel. It's OK when traveling at 15mph (24km/h), but is amazing below 10mph (16km/h). It feels like you are standing on a little ball that glides effortlessly wherever you think you want to go. Let me give you an example. When you're on a sidewalk and have to stop for traffic and wait until you get the walk signal, that's not the funnest of times is it? Either you're off the wheel or holding on to a post. Well not with this wheel. I actually found myself looking forward to getting a red light. I am not exaggerating! I can effortlessly do little 360 turns in the space of my body (I'll post some more video on this page later), and it's fun. If you can ride backward, this wheel is killer. I can do tiny pendulums all day long. So this wheel strangely is funnest when you're waiting. I'm doing tons of little 360's, pendulums, etc. The last couple of busy intersections that I crossed, I actually did a couple of mid-intersection 360's to give the people waiting a little show Effortless and very fun. I'm telling you guys, this wheel is no joke. You owe yourself to get one. I truly do not believe you would regret it. It would bring utter joy to your riding about town. And again, 18 miles (29km) of solid fun is very respectable. I'll post additional info on other features on an ongoing basis. I'm off for some night riding as soon as the wheel is recharged Edited October 24, 2017 by Marty Backe 5 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jrkline "Wheel Whisperer" Posted September 8, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 8, 2017 Although I have not had the chance to do a full range test yet,I think I have to concur with @Marty Backe's take on this wheel,this thing is freakin awesome.Although it is a little bigger than the original Mten,it has twice the power and speed.Awesome,totally awesome,as Spicoli would say! 1 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yourtoys7 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 excellent review, speed comment is very interesting, i was wondering how stable could it be.... but it has its purpose for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 12 minutes ago, JrKline "Wheel Whisperer said: Although I have not had the chance to do a full range test yet,I think I have to concur with @Marty Backe's take on this wheel,this thing is freakin awesome.Although it is a little bigger than the original Mten,it has twice the power and speed.Awesome,totally awesome,as Spicoli would say! Yes, I need confirmation that I'm not imagining the greatness of this wheel. Thanks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jrkline "Wheel Whisperer" Posted September 8, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 8, 2017 12 minutes ago, yourtoys7 said: excellent review, speed comment is very interesting, i was wondering how stable could it be.... but it has its purpose for sure. For me it will definately be a travel wheel.I'm throwing it in the saddle bag the next time I jump on the FJR 1300 and head to Vegas! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meng Yang Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 54 minutes ago, Marty Backe said: I can do tiny pendulums all day long. This is the part I like best! Hate to get down from the EUC when stationary. I'm really high up on my V8, so my pendulums are not always stable ... well, at least at my current skill level (I'm no Hirsute ). Like the MTen3, hope my upcoming Tesla will make pendulums easier too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, Meng Yang said: This is the part I like best! Hate to get down from the EUC when stationary. I'm really high up on my V8, so my pendulums are not always stable ... well, at least at my current skill level (I'm no Hirsute ). Like the MTen3, hope my upcoming Tesla will make pendulums easier too. Pendulums are fun (I'm no Hirsute either), but the little 180's and 360's are even funner on this wheel. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marty Backe Posted September 8, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 8, 2017 The Light Is Amazing Just got back from a night ride. The light on this is amazing. It's a torch light with an incredible throw. You know how KingSong has lights which are actually usable compared to Gotway's pathetic lights? Well the light on this wheel makes the KingSong light look like the old Gotway lights. I can cruise at 15+mph in total darkness and see everything far in front of me. I feel very safe. Apparently it's in the Tesla wheel too. I think Gotway just stole the title of best headlamp in any wheel. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
who_the Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 How much charge did your Mten3 arrive with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 The Motor Is Silent There is no whine that has been characteristic of Gotway wheels of late. Just a nice pleasant hum. You can finally sneak up on people now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marty Backe Posted September 8, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 8, 2017 5 minutes ago, who_the said: How much charge did your Mten3 arrive with? 20% Fortunately I have the 84v fast charger from @Jason McNeil so it only took about 1-1/2 hours to fully charge it. I think people will want a fast charger with this wheel because it's so fun you want to charge it fast to get back out there 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meng Yang Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 32 minutes ago, Marty Backe said: The Light Is Amazing Just got back from a night ride. The light on this is amazing. It's a torch light with an incredible throw. Apparently it's in the Tesla wheel too. Looks like it! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marty Backe Posted September 8, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 8, 2017 8 minutes ago, who_the said: How much charge did your Mten3 arrive with? Also, the tire pressure was low. I first put ~45psi in the tire but it was almost uncontrollable at that pressure I've been riding with the pressure at ~35psi and that seems nice for me. YMMV. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
who_the Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Good to know. 35psi is my baseline for Gotway wheels, good place to start. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US69 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 34 minutes ago, Marty Backe said: The Light Is Amazing Just got back from a night ride. The light on this is amazing. It's a torch light with an incredible throw. You know how KingSong has lights which are actually usable compared to Gotway's pathetic lights? Well the light on this wheel makes the KingSong light look like the old Gotway lights. I can cruise at 15+mph in total darkness and see everything far in front of me. I feel very safe. Apparently it's in the Tesla wheel too. I think Gotway just stole the title of best headlamp in any wheel. Nice! So seams they have thrown a 10Watt light in... Hopefully they had also thought about the correct wires for that, as on 5volt it is now running at two amps ;-) Just a joke :-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 1 minute ago, Meng Yang said: Looks like it! Yes, I saw his video. Still hard to appreciate it in a video, but you're going to love it in actual use. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meng Yang Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Remember someone said its a 260 lumen light. Still dim for me, but love the long throw. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post US69 Posted September 8, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Marty Backe said: 20% Fortunately I have the 84v fast charger from @Jason McNeil so it only took about 1-1/2 hours to fully charge it. I think people will want a fast charger with this wheel because it's so fun you want to charge it fast to get back out there I personally would not go over 3 Amps on this wheel! You have only 2 parrallel packs in it....meaning on everything over 3 Amps (1,5amp per pack) you would be over a 0,5 C Charge! With 4-5 Amps you still would be under 1 C....but as said, i would be conservative.... Edited September 8, 2017 by KingSong69 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, KingSong69 said: I personally would not go over 3 Amps on this wheel! You have only 2 parrallel packs in it....meaning on everything over 3 Amps (1,5amp per pack) you would be over a 0,5 C Charge! With 4-5 Amps you still would be under 1 C....but as said, i would be conservative.... I don't understand what "0,5 C Charge" means. Are you saying it's bad for the batteries or the wiring? This is a bummer. I really like the speed of 4 amps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
who_the Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 @Marty Backe Can you explain the battery meter and ring lighting settings, are they similar to what Tishawn described for the Tesla, where you fast-press the power button to cycle between lighting modes? I'm guessing these two wheels share some similarities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post US69 Posted September 8, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Marty Backe said: I don't understand what "0,5 C Charge" means. Are you saying it's bad for the batteries or the wiring? This is a bummer. I really like the speed of 4 amps batteries in your/our wheel have 3500mah...1 C for them is 3,5 Amp..."C" is a term used to rate charging From my batterie experiences and for longevity i PERSONALLY would never go over 0,5 C...means not going over 1,75Amp PER batterie pack when you use 3 Amps charger each batterie pack gets 1,5 Amps....when you use 4 to 5 Amps you are with 2-2,5 Amps per pack over this half C ( other people say 1 C is still ok, but i haver other experiences) So for this small wheel with only 2 parallel packs i would not go over 3 Amps... On our other wheels with 6-8 parallel packs setup the usage of higher Amps does not matter! But here it gets a bit critical! Edited September 8, 2017 by KingSong69 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 1 minute ago, KingSong69 said: batteries in your/our wheel have 3500mah...1 C for them is 3,5 Amp..."C" is a term used to rate charging From my batterie experiences and for longevity i PERSONALLY would never go over 0,5 C...means not going over 1,75Amp PER batterie pack when you use 3 Amps charger each batterie pack gets 1,5 Amps....when you use 4 to 5 Amps you are with 2-2,5 Amps per pack over this half C ( but other people say 1 C is still ok, but i haver other experiences) So for this small wheel with only 2 parallel packs i would not go over 3 Amps... On our other wheels with 6-8 parallel packs setup the usage of higher Amps does not matter! But here it gets a bit critical! Thanks for the explanation. I'll take your advice and stick with 3 amps except for any special situations which I need to charge it fast (shouldn't be too often). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 12 minutes ago, who_the said: @Marty Backe Can you explain the battery meter and ring lighting settings, are they similar to what Tishawn described for the Tesla, where you fast-press the power button to cycle between lighting modes? I'm guessing these two wheels share some similarities. I have not been able to turn off the ring lights. The power switch seems to operate just like our other Gotway wheels (power, light on, light flashing, light off). Let me know if you figure out how to do it. It won't bother me I can't, but I would prefer the option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mono Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Marty Backe said: I don't understand what "0,5 C Charge" means. 0.5 C refers to the charge current which charges the battery from 0 to 100% in 1 / 0.5 = 2 hours. In general, x C refers to the charge current that fully charges the battery in 1 / x hours. Charge currents below 0.5C (above 2 h) are considered safe for modern batteries, values above 1C (below 1h) may well hurt them. Edited September 8, 2017 by Mono 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mono Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 The new Mten sounds like a lot of fun then. That's exactly how I spend half the time on my wheel, doing 180ies and 360ies. My main concern now would be the pedal size, they don't look too large. Do you know the dimensions? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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