Jrkline "Wheel Whisperer" Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 13 hours ago, Hunka Hunka Burning Love said: I would honestly creep slowly behind them practicing my baby crawl speed and listen in on the convo. And maybe participate. Howdy! It's kind of fun making people jump like 5 feet in the air when they suddenly realize someone is creeping behind them. You mean that your willing to color outside the lines,shame on you! of course if you get into trouble,you can always just explain that you're a Canadian.And if that does'nt work,there is always the "bot excuse". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 2 hours ago, dmethvin said: Yep, that's what I did in this case. The grass is low and you can see it's not bumpy. However, once I tried going into some long grass and I ran into a relative of the sinkhole that swallowed two houses in Florida. That's what always makes me a little nervous about riding in grass, particularly when going fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunka Hunka Burning Love Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 16 hours ago, jrkline said: You mean that your willing to color outside the lines,shame on you! of course if you get into trouble,you can always just explain that you're a Canadian.And if that does'nt work,there is always the "bot excuse". I'm just a rebel. Aren't we all? We ride on one wheel just because we can. If people are allowed to block the pathway, I should be allowed to creep behind them. And in low power limp mode, it's pretty much as fast as I can go on the Ninebot! Truth be told, technically riding an EUC in Alberta is not legal unless it's on private property. Even in BC people are receiving fines. Does that stop me? Not yet. Am I hurting anyone? Definitely not. Am I technically breaking the law? Yep. I'll accept any fines I get, but in the meantime I'll ride carefully, respect my fellow humans and their pets, and keep on the D L to avoid the po po and to help keep fellow riders off their radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Hunka Hunka Burning Love said: I'm just a rebel. Aren't we all? We ride on one wheel just because we can. If people are allowed to block the pathway, I should be allowed to creep behind them. And in low power limp mode, it's pretty much as fast as I can go on the Ninebot! Truth be told, technically riding an EUC in Alberta is not legal unless it's on private property. Even in BC people are receiving fines. Does that stop me? Not yet. Am I hurting anyone? Definitely not. Am I technically breaking the law? Yep. I'll accept any fines I get, but in the mean time I'll ride carefully, respect my fellow humans and their pets, and keep on the D L to avoid the po po and to help keep fellow riders off their radar. Always strikes me as bizarre when I hear that they are illegal someplace. I just don't get. It's like I'm talking to an alien (the outer space kind) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunka Hunka Burning Love Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 I know right? I'm over it. As a normally law-abiding citizen I usually follow the rules, but sometimes I'll bend them a bit. Who hasn't sped just a little over the speed limit at times? Who hasn't had a fun game of road hockey in the street? Those without sin shall cast the first stone. Canada - True north, strong and free healthcare, but where you shouldn't ride an EUC in public. Think of us like a big "Strand" area if you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 28 minutes ago, Hunka Hunka Burning Love said: I know right? I'm over it. As a normally law-abiding citizen I usually follow the rules, but sometimes I'll bend them a bit. Who hasn't sped just a little over the speed limit at times? Who hasn't had a fun game of road hockey in the street? Those without sin shall cast the first stone. Canada - True north, strong and free healthcare, but where you shouldn't ride an EUC in public. Think of us like a big "Strand" area if you will. It's beginning to make sense. When the State is responsible for your health care, including broken bones, etc. then they feel that it's their right to control your physical activities. Your irresponsibility will cost the tax payer money. That's a serious argument against certain behaviors that I've heard/read many times. That might not be the reason for the anti-EUC laws, but I'm sure they could apply it if necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomek Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 @Marty Backe things typically become illegal when they are considered to be a threat to others. Riding EUCs where they are so explicitly not allowed will ONLY give people an argument that they indeed are a threat, or at least a great nuisance, and illegalise them entirely. I'm actually quite happy about the fact that EUCs are not too popular in the Netherlands. Otherwise some local versions of you would for sure start bending the rules, provoking police, and annoying the crap out of pedestrians. In no time EUCs would get ultra-negative PR in the press and get completely banned, instead of enjoying their current spot in a grey legal area until (hopefully reasonable_ PLEV regulations slowly emerge in EU. Do I think it's silly that EUCs are not allowed in some places? I do. But I also understand that new tech always needs to go through this process, to make sure it doesn't cause some serious harm to people. Provoking authorities will only make things worse for the entire EUC community. I think it is our duty as early adopters of EUCs to do our best to give those things the best possible PR instead. I really don't get why you don't agree with this, and why so many people boost your rep for these opinions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abinder3 Posted July 19, 2017 Author Share Posted July 19, 2017 52 minutes ago, Tomek said: @Marty Backe things typically become illegal when they are considered to be a threat to others. Riding EUCs where they are so explicitly not allowed will ONLY give people an argument that they indeed are a threat, or at least a great nuisance, and illegalise them entirely. I'm actually quite happy about the fact that EUCs are not too popular in the Netherlands. Otherwise some local versions of you would for sure start bending the rules, provoking police, and annoying the crap out of pedestrians. In no time EUCs would get ultra-negative PR in the press and get completely banned, instead of enjoying their current spot in a grey legal area until (hopefully reasonable_ PLEV regulations slowly emerge in EU. Do I think it's silly that EUCs are not allowed in some places? I do. But I also understand that new tech always needs to go through this process, to make sure it doesn't cause some serious harm to people. Provoking authorities will only make things worse for the entire EUC community. I think it is our duty as early adopters of EUCs to do our best to give those things the best possible PR instead. I really don't get why you don't agree with this, and why so many people boost your rep for these opinions... Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingfelder Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 On 7/18/2017 at 1:35 PM, dmethvin said: When a crowd has dogs or kids I generally try to get completely off the path just in case there are any sudden moves. Great move. You never know with kids. I think it can be stated with near certainty, though, that if something happens, nobody is going to care whether it was your fault or not or how scrupulously you may have been following laws or the dictates of common sense. They're going to think a child is hurt, or MY child is hurt, at which point logic ends and now you are a monster. I've had terrifying moments in which kids have suddenly bolted out from behind a parked car right into the street at top speed very close to my car. Once(as usual) I was going well within the speed limit when that happened, driving safely and defensively like always, and had to slam on the brakes. Scared the hell out of me. And of course the nearby dad who was keeping no control of his kid even though they were right next to the street started screaming at me like I was a maniac. I also remember the story of how one of mafioso John Gotti's kids did the same thing and a completely innocent driver hit him. Shortly thereafter the driver disappeared, never to be seen again. If kids are involved, you're just in big trouble and there's nothing you can do about it. Best to stay well away from them. They're too quick and careless, their energy is too wild and random and incautious.. Anyone who thinks kids are like us, only smaller, should see how young dogs often react around them. Unless very very young, they often back away or even growl! Kids are weird and of a different order. They're just not tame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingfelder Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 On 7/18/2017 at 2:40 PM, Marty Backe said: Yeah, that's a perfect picture, and I like your law Even one person can somehow manage to block the entire path sometimes. I always try and remember that I was a pedestrian once and therefore don't get upset I think it needs some sort of a Marc's corollary that goes: If someone doesn't know where they are going, they will not step out of the way, but immediately block any path, doorway, elevator, stairway, or escalator landing while trying to figure it out.* *Even while looking at a map or starting to fiddle with their phone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingfelder Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 23 hours ago, Hunka Hunka Burning Love said: I would honestly creep slowly behind them practicing my baby crawl speed and listen in on the convo. And maybe participate. Howdy! It's kind of fun making people jump like 5 feet in the air when they suddenly realize someone is creeping behind them. I sometimes do this by accident because I tend to walk quietly. When they jump they might scare me as much as I scared them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingfelder Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 2 hours ago, Marty Backe said: It's beginning to make sense. When the State is responsible for your health care, including broken bones, etc. then they feel that it's their right to control your physical activities. Your irresponsibility will cost the tax payer money. That's a serious argument against certain behaviors that I've heard/read many times. That might not be the reason for the anti-EUC laws, but I'm sure they could apply it if necessary. Haha, yeah, when healthcare is free, people will break their own bones just for fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunka Hunka Burning Love Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 I do think @Tomek and @abinder3 make good points about not overtly defying law enforcement. Playing road hockey in the middle of a freeway after police have issued a warning isn't the smartest thing to do and can start raising red flags among the other police officers to bring it up at meetings so everyone is on the same team against it. On the other hand, if people want to challenge those laws (looking at you troublemakers @Marty Backe, @jrkline, @Hunka Hunka Burning Love whoops hold on a sec how'd my name pop up in there ), as long as they don't endanger people in doing so, they are free to be fined, arrested, or escorted off the premises. Do they ruin things for others? Hard to say. If it is such a huge concern for the police, they simply need to ramp up patrols to target electrics on the strand for a few weeks and issue warnings followed by fines. I bet it's not like people are filing complaints against Marty for riding there? It's likely more the police just want to enforce some law that someone decided to put into place there. Marty seems like a nice guy who would likely be the last person to go zooming in between kids, pets, and other pedestrians recklessly. Some people did complain about local road hockey games in Canada. Technically roads are not meant for street hockey usage. Are the kids endangering themselves or others? Is it that big of a deal? Should the kids stop playing because it will trigger more police enforcement and ruin things for others? I'm not too sure about that. http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/neighbor-calls-police-on-kids-playing-street-hockey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve454 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, Hunka Hunka Burning Love said: Some people did complain about local road hockey games in Canada. Technically roads are not meant for street hockey usage. Are the kids endangering themselves or others? Is it that big of a deal? Should the kids stop playing because it will trigger more police enforcement and ruin things for others? I'm not too sure about that. If the kids respectfully got out of the way for every car that passed, and quick smart too, I don't think anyone would call the police. It's the ones that make you slow down and wait for them that makes the blood boil. That's when people get upset about the street being used the wrong way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve454 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 21 minutes ago, Dingfelder said: Haha, yeah, when healthcare is free, people will break their own bones just for fun! When healthcare is free, more people start skydiving and hangliding and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve454 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 17 minutes ago, Hunka Hunka Burning Love said: Some people did complain about local road hockey games in Canada. It seems they were mainly complaining about the noise. Like from the article, the kids were yelling and carrying on. God, I hate that. Would you like this apartment near the swimming pool, Steve? Aww, H-E double el no! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingfelder Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, steve454 said: It seems they were mainly complaining about the noise. Like from the article, the kids were yelling and carrying on. God, I hate that. Would you like this apartment near the swimming pool, Steve? Aww, H-E double el no! Guess you're not a perv then. Those usually go for a premium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmethvin Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 13 minutes ago, steve454 said: When healthcare is free, more people start skydiving and hangliding and such. In the long term, any sport where you have to clean the victim off the ground with a spatula saves the govt a bunch of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunka Hunka Burning Love Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 So if the kids playing hockey were quiet and respectful of cars and neighbours wanting some peace, you'd be okay with that right? So if Marty rides quietly and doesn't zip at 40 KPH around the strand (whatever that is) would that be okay too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve454 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, Hunka Hunka Burning Love said: So if the kids playing hockey were quiet and respectful of cars and neighbours wanting some peace, you'd be okay with that right? So if Marty rides quietly and doesn't zip at 40 KPH around the strand (whatever that is) would that be okay too? Egg zackly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmethvin Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, Hunka Hunka Burning Love said: So if the kids playing hockey were quiet and respectful of cars and neighbours wanting some peace, you'd be okay with that right? So if Marty rides quietly and doesn't zip at 40 KPH around the strand (whatever that is) would that be okay too? As I understand it, the Strand is one of those idyllic SoCal places where the weather is always sunny and unicorns frolic. The rest of us wouldn't understand. Last time I was in Toronto some group of guys in hockey uniforms (including sticks) were hogging the hotel lobby and carrying several cases of Labatts. It was so Canadian I thought it was a parody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve454 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 7 minutes ago, Dingfelder said: Guess you're not a perv then. Those usually go for a premium. Let's just say I prefer peace and quiet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve454 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 13 minutes ago, Dingfelder said: Guess you're not a perv then. Those usually go for a premium. They do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunka Hunka Burning Love Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Oh after doing a little Googling, I see that "The Strand" is like some kinda long sidewalk with houses next to the beach where it's okay to drive police cars and motorcycles on? I guess those aren't motorized vehicles. @Marty Backe - you need to carry around a Stanley Cup replica and have red and blue flashing lights with sirens wailing. That should make it okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasenutty Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Man that place looks annoying. All the cops and retards staring at cop cars with the noise. Ugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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