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That's awful. It's not like that where I live. Where do you live? I take it that it's somewhere in the UK since you call "the pavement" what we in the U.S call the sidewalk.

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@Pingouin

wow??? 

Where do you live? The maximum "bad" experience i got are comments like "moving yourself makes you sporty" or "this is not allowed" from some envy, life frustrated bicycle riders.....

But that are max 0,1% of the normally nice and happy comments!

Never ever experienced some aggressive movements towards me or racist comments...so hell yeah, where do you live? come over to me :-)

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19 minutes ago, dbfrese said:

That's awful. It's not like that where I live. Where do you live? I take it that it's somewhere in the UK since you call "the pavement" what we in the U.S call the sidewalk.

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@Pingouin

wow??? 

Where do you live? The maximum "bad" experience i got are comments like "moving yourself makes you sporty" or "this is not allowed" from some envy, life frustrated bicycle riders.....

But that are max 0,1% of the normally nice and happy comments!

Never ever experienced some aggressive movements towards me or racist comments...so hell yeah, where do you live? come over to me :-)

Hi, I live in a french city unfortunately, I don't know if it's only a feeling, but I find french people to be very rude in general (I lived in the US for a while and never had an issue), the best way to avoid trouble is to be stealthy but the EUC ain't the best way to do that.

I don't know maybe it only happens to me that's why I'm asking other riders, but I don't think it's very common.. (maybe it's because I'm a foreigner + young + small)

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What is Attempted Assault?

Attempted assault is when an individual intentionally tries to physically harm another person or means to cause him/her mental distress. It is important for you to know your rights and how the laws can affect you.

 

3 hours ago, Pingouin said:

a guy came out of his black sportscar, took what I think was a rock, and threw it towards me yelling something I didn't understand, the rock smashed against the wall on the opposit side, according to the sound I heard, it had to weight at least 500g..can't imagine getting that in the face, or even in the body..after that incident I really considered buying a defense tool to keep with me

 

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I did fill a lawsuit for the guys trying to knock me off with their car, never heard from the police...without the plate number unfortunately they couldn't do much.

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"... they couldn't do much." --- exactly.  You can't change the world, but you can only change what you do.  Sadly, at this rate you are in real trouble. 

 

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I'm not a wimp, and neither are you.  But if you are regularly getting racist comments, and people throwing things at you, and trying to run you off the road, man, then no fault of your own, you are in the wrong neighborhood.  Sadly, these are the facts of life. 

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Holy shit really?:furious:

4 hours ago, dpong said:

I'm not a wimp, and neither are you.  But if you are regularly getting racist comments, and people throwing things at you, and trying to run you off the road, man, then no fault of your own, you are in the wrong neighborhood.  Sadly, these are the facts of life. 

100% agree. You probably don't, but don't blame yourself for frustrated losers.

Maybe you really should have some kind of weapon if that helps you feel safer (not that you would realistically use it, but mental state matters). Something you can visibly and quickly show if necessary. How about a small-ish rock? Nothing stops an asshole driver faster than (possible) damage to the car, for example. Or high range pepper spray?

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57 minutes ago, Villac said:

I live in Pennsylvania, US and the worst I have heard is "you are not allowed to ride that here". 

I lived in Pennsylvania (Near Sybertsville) and when I was a kid trying out for little league the best I got was sitting on the bench (for a long time) with no uniform.  I quit Little League for the Soap Box Derby and haven't really been much of a baseball fan all my life except for when the Sox get into the series (I moved to New England).

I'd go with:

5 hours ago, dpong said:

You may need to seriously consider changing your habits entirely.

because when the guys you describe get provoked a little self protection won't help you very much. Good luck.

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Posted (edited)

That is all sorts of fucked up. Never had it that bad in the Seattle area. Not saying it couldn't happen here.

There are areas I avoid because of the potential for incidents like yours. 

 

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23 minutes ago, Jag_Rip said:

Horrible people!

Get yourself a Helmet and put a camera on it, if they see your cam they hopefully think twice. And the helmet is never wrong anyway.

Yeah, good plan ! Whenever I go anywhere that I think might be even slightly dodgy, I've got a GoPro on record all the time I'm riding.

It may also help, deterrent-wise, to mount that camera on a big, heavy duty metal selfie stick, although of course that could go very wrong very quickly if someone violent and intent on a fight ever got that off you, and of course I am in no way condoning the use of that as a weapon... merely speculating that it might make someone less likely to choose you as a target if you have one with you.

Of course it's always better to run away if you can :) (Not dogs - you have to stop and face them!)

If only the acceleration on my MS3 was a bit more impressive. It can outrun people and animals, and even cyclists, but only if you get a really good head start ! :)Standstill to 'fast enough to escape running adults' just doesn't happen on my wheel. I was rather hoping I still lived in a society where that didn't matter... apparently not hey ?

So what can we do if we feel truly threatened ? Pepper spray ?! 

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Sorry to hear things like this still happen in this day and age in a first world country. Aren't we all human beings born on the same blue planet,  humans are just bad there is always something to discriminate against be it race, colour, sex, age and so on. 

I wish you safe travels and never let things like this stop you enjoying what you like. Many people here have all offered some good advice, there is still good left and with that comes hope.

 

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Thanks for all of your replies !

So to answer your questions, it doesn't happen in a specific area, it can be in the city center or the suburbs, it's unpredictable, it doesn't happen often in my neighberhoud, and for now I can't move in another city (maybe it's also the same in other cities btw)

I though about pepper spray just for confidence, but it's against the law here, plus I don't think it could help me if there is a bunch of agressors, and I could be charged for assault..for now my only solution is to take chances, or to go with the ACM which can go fast. I don't go fast near people, I do not cut their routes, I do not look at them in an agressive manner...I don't think I'm doing anything wrong, and when I suspect people to react badly, I take another path, but I can't always figure that our before it's too late unfortunately.

The idea of having a gopro is not bad, the only issue is that the for long trips the battery will die on me ^^ plus I need to buy one because I don't have any (I do have a dashcam in my car but it needs to be plugged in), but the idea is interesting.

For now, I do not dress like robocop because I feel stupid but maybe I'll do it.

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30 minutes ago, Pingouin said:

For now, I do not dress like robocop because I feel stupid but maybe I'll do it.

I do dress like Robocop, and sometimes wish I didn't :) While I do feel very armoured up and relatively safe in the event of a fall, there is no doubt that a pressure suit / body armour draws more attention than not wearing it, or wearing a coat on top of it. Like with EUC's themselves, most of the comments you get come from younger kids, who shout things like 'Hey, cool boots !', and 'Yay, space guy !', but there is another group of slightly older and much more cynical youths who will seize on the fact that you look different or a bit 'special' as an invitation to come over and hassle you. Sometimes it's good, interested hassle, and sometimes its belligerent and unpleasant to deal with hassle.

Also makes you stand out more to police in countries where EUC is not yet allowed, and makes people think EUC's are more dangerous than they are because why else am I so comprehensively armoured up to go shopping ? 

So, swings and roundabouts on the robocop look, perhaps best to wear something black and unassuming over the top of whatever riot gear you've got going on underneath :)

 

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I personally live around Brussels. Comments are usually quite good. However people sometimes have strange behavior. Recently a woman walked fast towards me, like she wants to collide with me. I instinctively stepped down the EUC, causing it to fall. The woman went away like nothing happened. Was strange, but I didn't encounter agressions. However I know this might happen. Technology make people curious at first. Later on, they often reject it like "we live better without those gadgets". Especially in Europe where people are not really fast tech adopters.

 

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I am so angry to hear what you are experiencing while trying to enjoy your ride! Thank God I have not encountered in my country what you have been subjected to.

It would be nice if a bunch of us could make our way to your French town and ride as a group! It would definitely be a deterrence! I would love to stop and talk to these guys and gain some insight as to what their issues in life are!  

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7 minutes ago, Rehab1 said:

I am so angry to hear what you are experiencing while trying to enjoy your ride! Thank God I have not encountered in my country what you have been subjected to.

It would be nice if a bunch of us could make our way to your French town and ride as a group! It would definitely be a deterrence! I would love to stop and talk to these guys and gain some insight as to what their issues in life are!  

I haven't ridden in the US, but when I lived there, I never have had any issues, except with french guys once (lol).

It never happens when riding as a group, these guys loose there balls when there is a sligt risk for them, maybe the only thing would be to surprise them by fighting back, but I am not a fighter and I don't belive that violence solves anything, and verbal responses are likely to turn into an escalation of violence :/

From what I have seen, it's mostly people of my age or a little more who act stupid, maybe my generation is truly disrespectful, or maybe I lost by objectivity donnow..

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