dpong Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 As a casual, though constant, recreational rider I find that 30 miles on a charge would always meet my needs. Unless I went camping for the weekend with no opportunity to recharge overnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpong Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Also, I am a firm believer that all KS16 style wheels should go on sale immediately! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrkline "Wheel Whisperer" Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 3 hours ago, swvision said: 5 hours ago, abinder3 said: Jeff, How much does your 2040ACM weigh ? 57 Liver Bounders (Lbs) pounds Allen I think so too jeff. The ACM is the best wheel ever made in my personal opinion but it could use more range and power. I checked on what you said in Griffith Park about the batteries being 2900mah panasonics in our wheels. If they just changed the batteries to the 3400mah- 3500mah panasonics then we would have a lot more range, or perhaps even the 2170 that teslas coming out with. Speculation"Tesla's new 2170 battery cells reported to have 5175 mAh capacity - an increase of 52% from the current 3400 mAh of the 18650 cell. " I think you have me confused with someone else about Griffith Park.I said nothing about battery mah that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yourtoys7 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 my fav. by far is msuper v2., absolutely love the look, but leaning towards msuper v3s+ at double the price of v2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codersarepeople Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 I like having the choices but I think you're asking people who spends hours thinking about these things. One thing for me is $1500 is a real price point to me. The ks18 with 840 @$1450 is something I've been keeping my eye on for my next wheel, but the 1680wh@$1850 is so close to $2k it scares me. The real problem is is hard for customers to differentiate between gotway and king song. I'm happy but surprised you're offering gotway; your reasoning before was they are too dangerous so I'm surprised to see you offer them right as the msuper and the monster both started having some super scary wiring issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swvision Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 21 hours ago, steve454 said: So, the 18650 is 18 millimeters wide by 65 millimeters long, does that mean the 2170 Tesla battery cell is 21 millimeters wide by 70 millimeters long? That is a significantly larger battery cell. Maybe that is the wave of the future, larger cells but fewer cell to make a battery pack with more power. Cool new avatar, I wish I could put that as my screensaver It's a kinetic wind sculptures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve454 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 1 hour ago, swvision said: kinetic wind sculptures. Cool video, I've never seen those before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab1 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 20 minutes ago, steve454 said: Cool video, I've never seen those before. I agree! My wife just watched the video and wants a replica! Maybe if I buy one for her I can escape the dog house treatment when she learns about my new ACM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunka Hunka Burning Love Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 3 hours ago, codersarepeople said: The real problem is is hard for customers to differentiate between gotway and king song. I'm happy but surprised you're offering gotway; your reasoning before was they are too dangerous so I'm surprised to see you offer them right as the msuper and the monster both started having some super scary wiring issues. I think Gotway has ironed out the disconnection issues with their new crimped and soldered connectors. With larger orders I bet Gotway would accept doing some customization depending on the size of the order. Say if Jason wanted some special connector that's foolproof and up to UL/CSA standards along with diode protection at the charge port, they might do it for him if he orders enough units. As one of the major players in the US with a good rep, I bet Gotway would love to do business with him. And likewise, judging by all the Gotway love regardless of some failures, for an EUC dealer I bet it's difficult to resist the cutting edge specifications when customers are wanting to have the latest and greatest. That kinetic sculpture is pure beauty! It reminds me of those Strandbeests that walk across beaches. It's optically mesmerizing... .. although I'd hate to see a bird fly through the middle and end up as minced meat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve454 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 They should call it the Hulk. I would buy it, especially if it said so on the side. "Did you invent that?" " Yes" "It's called the Hulk" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve454 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 2 hours ago, swvision said: It's a kinetic wind sculptures. That must be his flagship creation, at over 400 thousand dollars. I would buy it if I was rich enough. It's fantastic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve454 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 46 minutes ago, Hunka Hunka Burning Love said: I think Gotway has ironed out the disconnection issues with their new crimped and soldered connectors. With larger orders I bet Gotway would accept doing some customization depending on the size of the order. Say if Jason wanted some special connector that's foolproof and up to UL/CSA standards along with diode protection at the charge port, they might do it for him if he orders enough units. As one of the major players in the US with a good rep, I bet Gotway would love to do business with him. And likewise, judging by all the Gotway love regardless of some failures, for an EUC dealer I bet it's difficult to resist the cutting edge specifications when customers are wanting to have the latest and greatest. That kinetic sculpture is pure beauty! It reminds me of those Strandbeests that walk across beaches. It's optically mesmerizing... .. although I'd hate to see a bird fly through the middle and end up as minced meat! I love those strandbeests, and remember when you posted that video! It was awesome! You had a replica that I wish I had gotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpong Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Jason has placed the KingSong KS16 (800 Watt) on sale at his site! A significant price improvement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve454 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 4 hours ago, codersarepeople said: The ks18 with 840 @$1450 is something I've been keeping my eye on for my next wheel, but the 1680wh@$1850 is so close to $2k it scares me. It seems the price is going up astronomically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve454 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 On 3/10/2017 at 11:59 AM, Marty Backe said: "Choice is a wonderful thing" Spoken by a true rich man. I hate you and aspire to be as rich as you. Fokker, out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLinux Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 On 3/10/2017 at 2:18 PM, LanghamP said: Are there any plans to bring lower-end wheels like the IPS line? The Lhotz with its wide wheel was my first choice. At $550 shipped and $800-$900 shipped respectively, the IPS 121 and 191 (Lhotz) are some of the best wheel values out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLinux Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 On 3/10/2017 at 2:48 PM, Planetpapi said: Double wheel design should go away in my opinion, I agree, it might seem appealing to beginners, but I think most people who buy a double-wheel EUC will eventually switch to single wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab1 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 3 hours ago, steve454 said: That must be his flagship creation, at over 400 thousand dollars. I would buy it if I was rich enough. It's fantastic! Oh ya....it's fantastic! I just bought one for my wife! Wait!! ....Stupid me!!.. $400k bribe to keep me out of the dog house over a $1700 wheel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swvision Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 4 hours ago, Hunka Hunka Burning Love said: That kinetic sculpture is pure beauty! It reminds me of those Strandbeests that walk across beaches. It's optically mesmerizing... .. although I'd hate to see a bird fly through the middle and end up as minced meat! Well, I think EUC's have the same effect on people when they see it for the first time. Its like something that they'd never thought of happening right in front of their eyes; and their mind imprints that experience. An art's shock and awe is the driving force of future inspirations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason McNeil Posted March 12, 2017 Author Share Posted March 12, 2017 13 hours ago, dpong said: Jason has placed the KingSong KS16 (800 Watt) on sale at his site! A significant price improvement! Wish, has been granted Making way for the KS16S, though only a couple left, there needs to be sufficient price difference of the current 800W to make them attractive. 17 hours ago, codersarepeople said: your reasoning before was they are too dangerous so I'm surprised to see you offer them right as the msuper and the monster both started having some super scary wiring issues. I think what convinced me was the numbers GW have sold, according to internal sources: "sold about 10,000pcs ACM, 8,000pcs Msuper V3 and about 1,000pcs Monster", by any standard, these are some mightily impressive sales numbers that place GW quite high in the volume pecking order. The logic goes something along the lines of, 'if there are design defects, then surely these 10,000 early adopters would have found them out by now' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Jason McNeil said: Wish, has been granted Making way for the KS16S, though only a couple left, there needs to be sufficient price difference of the current 800W to make them attractive. I think what convinced me was the numbers GW have sold, according to internal sources: "sold about 10,000pcs ACM, 8,000pcs Msuper V3 and about 1,000pcs Monster", by any standard, these are some mightily impressive sales numbers that place GW quite high in the volume pecking order. The logic goes something along the lines of, 'if there are design defects, then surely these 10,000 early adopters would have found them out by now' Very cool to read about the sales numbers. Those are impressive numbers. Based on the rare sightings in the United States, we must represent 5% of the market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US69 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 20 hours ago, codersarepeople said: I like having the choices but I think you're asking people who spends hours thinking about these things. One thing for me is $1500 is a real price point to me. The ks18 with 840 @$1450 is something I've been keeping my eye on for my next wheel, but the 1680wh@$1850 is so close to $2k it scares me. europe price for a KS18 1680wh newest version is around 2400 Dollars.....Jason's. prices are great.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lespetit Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Hello moderator ! My first post ... no need to approve... you can delete it ..only want to say to you that an advertisement followed by a questions is always an advertisement. So this thread is in the wrong section. I understand that ewheels is a senior member that always said ... no gotway, so he now need max visibility to his change ..but .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esaj Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 40 minutes ago, lespetit said: Hello moderator ! My first post ... no need to approve... you can delete it ..only want to say to you that an advertisement followed by a questions is always an advertisement. So this thread is in the wrong section. I understand that ewheels is a senior member that always said ... no gotway, so he now need max visibility to his change ..but .... Fair enough, moving to ads... but even you must admit, Jason works much harder for his visibility and marketing than most sellers, and majority of his posted content isn't about selling wheels, but the wheels in general, giving help to people (many of whom aren't even his customers) etc. Considering how much praise his shops get, he must be doing something right Just hope he won't burn himself out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Backe Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, esaj said: Fair enough, moving to ads... but even you must admit, Jason works much harder for his visibility and marketing than most sellers, and majority of his posted content isn't about selling wheels, but the wheels in general, giving help to people (many of whom aren't even his customers) etc. Considering how much praise his shops get, he must be doing something right Just hope he won't burn himself out... One negative comment doesn't automatically justify banishing this thread to the advertisement group. Since I don't visit the advertisement section for wheels I would have missed this very interesting thread. My two cents worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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