Ilya Shkolnik Posted January 15, 2018 Author Share Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) @FredericDH Xiaomi firmware does not accept more speed value than max supported by provider. For upgrade max speed need to modify the firmware by hardware method, not via bluetooth. Edited January 15, 2018 by Ilya Shkolnik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Shkolnik Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 What's new in 3.2.1-152: - Fixed bug related with displaying graphs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US69 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 @Shad0z Are you serious? What about buying a very cheap android phone and use the "wheellog" app? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad0z Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, KingSong69 said: @Shad0z Are you serious? What about buying a very cheap android phone and use the "wheellog" app? but phones are expensive.. Not exactly cheap... dont take me seriously...then i will just hide my comment.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Shkolnik Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 19 minutes ago, Shad0z said: can you make a windows phone app that can connect to a gotway and show very basic info? Windows Phone is dead 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US69 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 10 minutes ago, Shad0z said: but phones are expensive.. Not exactly cheap... dont take me seriously...then i will just hide my comment.. Just an example: https://www.gearbest.com/android-_gear/c_11293/?odr=low2high&odr_value=1 And that are new ones.....sure you get a used one for half the Money..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad0z Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, KingSong69 said: Just an example: https://www.gearbest.com/android-_gear/c_11293/?odr=low2high&odr_value=1 And that are new ones.....sure you get a used one for half the Money..... that is cheaaap! Thank you i will find a very cheap one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad0z Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 14 minutes ago, Ilya Shkolnik said: Windows Phone is dead 8.1 yes but 10 is still alive new apps new updates. But its not "lively" its just surviving. im sorry for asking i didnt think it through Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab1 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 23 minutes ago, KingSong69 said: @Shad0z Are you serious? What about buying a very cheap android phone and use the "wheellog" app? I agree. I took that advice from @Marty Backe last year. My android phone cost $30. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ombre Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 (edited) @Ilya Shkolnik I noticed a bug today. I opened the app connected to a King Song 14S (840 wh) and for some reason the temperature display was set to Celsius. It was showing 22 degrees C. I didn't remember changing it, so I switched it to Fahrenheit and it showed 160 degrees F. It should have showed 72 degrees F. This was with a "cold", completely un-ridden wheel, in a chilly house. I switched it back to C and F again, same results. Re-starting the app didn't help. This is version DarknessBot 3.2.1 on iOS 11.2 Edited January 24, 2018 by Ombre added software versions 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoinPostal Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 On 1/15/2018 at 1:43 AM, Ilya Shkolnik said: @FredericDH Xiaomi firmware does not accept more speed value than max supported by provider. For upgrade max speed need to modify the firmware by hardware method, not via bluetooth. Ilya, How about trying to figure out how to release the final speed unlock for the KingSong KS18S? It’s supposed to unlock to 30mph once you hit 1000km, but very few have succeeded in doing this as the KS software is in Chinese. If you can break the lock, that’s a module I would pay $25 for! Thsnks for your hard work, GoinPostal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US69 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 As far as i know he allready has done that! For all KS he unlocked the max Speed and set it to 45kmh, in the beginning it was even 50kmh, but this was to fast, as also KS16 were affected from this Change. Set the Speed/tiltback glider in the Darkness app to max Speed and you should have a 45kmh tiltback before reaching 1000km. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Shkolnik Posted January 24, 2018 Author Share Posted January 24, 2018 @Ombre please send me logs from DarknessBot: Settings / About / Show Logs / Share Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houseofjob Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, KingSong69 said: Set the Speed/tiltback glider in the Darkness app to max Speed and you should have a 45kmh tiltback before reaching 1000km. Have you tried & tested this by chance on your KS18S? Had forgotten about the KS unlock on DarknessBot reading this, so set my KS18S to 45kph tiltback via DarknessBot this AM commute to work, but when riding, I still got the same 40kph tiltback I had before. Next up is to see if WheelLog will do the trick in actual application. Edited January 24, 2018 by houseofjob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ombre Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 5 hours ago, Ilya Shkolnik said: @Ombre please send me logs from DarknessBot: Settings / About / Show Logs / Share Sent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US69 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 2 hours ago, houseofjob said: Have you tried & tested this by chance on your KS18S? Had forgotten about the KS unlock on DarknessBot reading this, so set my KS18S to 45kph tiltback via DarknessBot this AM commute to work, but when riding, I still got the same 40kph tiltback I had before. Next up is to see if WheelLog will do the trick in actual application. Nope, o couldnt really test it, as i was to fast on 1000km, and also to much of a whimp to ride that fast :-) I seldom scratch over the 40kmh, for me the best on the 50kmh unlock is that o now never ever have to deal with beeps, warnings, or tiltback, no matter how fast i drive. But as you said....wheellog/darkness both together implemented that (or tried it)....and as i have read about some Ks16 users that coild go over 30kmh....i thought it would work? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houseofjob Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, KingSong69 said: But as you said....wheellog/darkness both together implemented that (or tried it)....and as i have read about some Ks16 users that coild go over 30kmh....i thought it would work? Doesn't seem so on my new KS18S, which is just shy of 200km now. I've unlocked via WheelLog now, so will report back if that seems to do a proper unlock on my lunch ride. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoother Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 9 hours ago, KingSong69 said: For all KS he unlocked the max Speed and set it to 45kmh, in the beginning it was even 50kmh, but this was to fast, as also KS16 were affected from this Change. Set the Speed/tiltback glider in the Darkness app to max Speed and you should have a 45kmh 3 I got excited reading this, but when I found the "glider" my glider maxes out at 35kph. (ks16s). So if he opened it up at some point, its restricted to factory speed now. Unless I'm doing something wrong. Please tell me I'm doing something wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US69 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 37 minutes ago, Smoother said: I got excited reading this, but when I found the "glider" my glider maxes out at 35kph. (ks16s). So if he opened it up at some point, its restricted to factory speed now. Unless I'm doing something wrong. Please tell me I'm doing something wrong. Perhaps we should ask @Ilya Shkolnik about it :-) @Ilya Shkolnik Did you not implement a 45kmh for Kingsongs? Or something which goes above the limit they implemented? Or was this only in Beta Versions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houseofjob Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Wow, that sucked, never try to unlock tiltback on a KS18S with Wheellog v 2.05 (27092017 apk)! I adjusted the slider to 50km/h in Wheellog, then just turning on the KS18S and rolling it around by hand, my wheel was severely tilting back at basically no speed. Trying to get my settings back in the KingSong official V5 Android app, I couldn't even connect back to the wheel; I had to go into the V5 app and reset alarms+tiltback, then the V5 app allowed me to connect with still some difficulty. I get the feeling neither DarknessBot nor Wheellog developers had access to an actual KS18S for real testing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilya Shkolnik Posted January 25, 2018 Author Share Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, KingSong69 said: Perhaps we should ask @Ilya Shkolnik about it :-) @Ilya Shkolnik Did you not implement a 45kmh for Kingsongs? Or something which goes above the limit they implemented? Or was this only in Beta Versions? In last version: KS14/KS16 - 35 kph (max accepted speed for firmware) KS18 - 45 kph (for secure reasons) Edited January 25, 2018 by Ilya Shkolnik 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoinPostal Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 On 1/24/2018 at 1:44 AM, KingSong69 said: As far as i know he allready has done that! For all KS he unlocked the max Speed and set it to 45kmh, in the beginning it was even 50kmh, but this was to fast, as also KS16 were affected from this Change. Set the Speed/tiltback glider in the Darkness app to max Speed and you should have a 45kmh tiltback before reaching 1000km. I have not tried it recently, but some months back I tried it. It will allow me to slide the sliders to 45km, but I still get alarms and tilt back at 32km. I have no fear. I would ride 50km everywhere if I could. ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoother Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Actually, I've had a think about this recently. Even before the sad news from @Rehab1 I read an article about why its good to have a speed limit set well under the maximum speed a motor can obtain. That and the Asian guy face planting from his Tesla at high speed, and several face plants of my own; I'm now glad that my ks16s limits me to 35kph. I'm hoping, but not willing to test it, that this will give me enough power head-room so that the slightest bump doesn't overpower something, and shut the wheel down. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post US69 Posted January 29, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2018 23 minutes ago, Smoother said: Actually, I've had a think about this recently. Even before the sad news from @Rehab1 I read an article about why its good to have a speed limit set well under the maximum speed a motor can obtain. That and the Asian guy face planting from his Tesla at high speed, and several face plants of my own; I'm now glad that my ks16s limits me to 35kph. I'm hoping, but not willing to test it, that this will give me enough power head-room so that the slightest bump doesn't overpower something, and shut the wheel down. Thats exactly why KS has those speed reducements coming in on low battery! To always have enough "head-room", so that a fall/cut-out wont happen. The KS18S, limited to 50kmh has a free-run capability of about 65kmh. the KS16S is able to run about 45-50kmh, and is limited to 35kmh. Those numbers go down a bit with reduced battery, so KS implemented a speed reducement when running under a certain battery limit. I totally honor this "safety first" approach of KS wheels!!! Having some knowledge about how batterys behave when running low, and that their voltdrop gets massivly higher when they are depleted, this algorythm is the only way to go! (While Rehabs fall seams to be a wobble issue, no cutout because speed) 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoinPostal Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) Ilya, http://forum.electricunicycle.org/profile/3798-ilya-shkolnik/ There appears to be a bug in the conversion to Farenhiet for the Kingsong KS18S. The actual temp was 90 degrees. Please take a look. Thanks! Edited February 5, 2018 by GoinPostal Correcting Ilya’s name and adding tag 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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