jojo33 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Many times, users ask for more speed Yesterday night, i thought about this speed limit and i get idea what we need a mini pro a NINEBOT E PERSONAL TRANSPORTER with speed limit at 22km/h http://www.ninebot.com/Product-ninebot.html a GENIUS (like Denniss or Alexander profile) NINEBOT E FIRMWARE How to do? (i can imagine but im not specialist) Rename NINEBOT E PT firmware for upgrading firmware for mini What do you think about this idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozpeter Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 The "speed limit" of the Mini Pro is not necessarily just a matter of firmware, but could also be related to the rating of the motors, the motor controller, and the battery. It could also be related to the physical strength of the frame - when riding even over normal paving slabs, the frame absorbs quite an impact as it crosses the joint between each one, and the force of that impact increases with speed. Even if your idea was remotely possible, which I doubt, you would need to do extensive testing over a long period of time to determine the long term effects on the motor, controller, battery and frame. And you'd need a very well-padded volunteer to discover whether the Mini Pro remained safe at higher speeds under a wide variety of circumstances, including the ability to stop quickly without throwing off the rider. The Mini Pro "is what it is" - a device to enable users to travel faster than walking space with minimum effort over distances that might otherwise be taxing - it's not intended to compete with bicycles. Let's not lose sight of that. Sorry to be negative! But perhaps realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jojo33A Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 1 hour ago, Ozpeter said: The "speed limit" of the Mini Pro is not necessarily just a matter of firmware, but could also be related to the rating of the motors, the motor controller, and the battery. It could also be related to the physical strength of the frame - when riding even over normal paving slabs, the frame absorbs quite an impact as it crosses the joint between each one, and the force of that impact increases with speed. Even if your idea was remotely possible, which I doubt, you would need to do extensive testing over a long period of time to determine the long term effects on the motor, controller, battery and frame. And you'd need a very well-padded volunteer to discover whether the Mini Pro remained safe at higher speeds under a wide variety of circumstances, including the ability to stop quickly without throwing off the rider. The Mini Pro "is what it is" - a device to enable users to travel faster than walking space with minimum effort over distances that might otherwise be taxing - it's not intended to compete with bicycles. Let's not lose sight of that. Sorry to be negative! But perhaps realistic. @Ozpeter Exactly, i agree with you, it's not "negative", it's logical Ninebot E was the Mini's ancestor well i can imagine a mini with a NE PT firmware, because using both the ninebot app, and NE PT have a specs sheet similar , power is 620w, mini pro is 800w, materials are similar too...in the specsheet said the NE PT max speed is 12mph/20kmh, and the product presentation talk about 22 http://www.ninebot.com/Product-ninebot.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P99Guy Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Actually the Mini-Pro has 2 400watt motors so 800 watt total power. The PTR E+ has 2 1350 watt motors or 2700 watts of total power. The Mini-Pro battery is 320 watt hour, the PTR E+ has a 620 watt hour battery. I have both units if you have any questions. I can actually hit 24kmh on the PTR E+ with firmware 1.5.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jojo33A Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 7 hours ago, P99Guy said: Actually the Mini-Pro has 2 400watt motors so 800 watt total power. The PTR E+ has 2 1350 watt motors or 2700 watts of total power. The Mini-Pro battery is 320 watt hour, the PTR E+ has a 620 watt hour battery. I have both units if you have any questions. I can actually hit 24kmh on the PTR E+ with firmware 1.5.0 Thank you P99Guy i don't see the 2X620, only read "620" into the specs sheets if 24km/h is your max speed reached What is the cruising speed max? with my mini is 17.5km/h Did you use the same App? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P99Guy Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 yes I use the Ninebot app but not to see the speed on it for the PTR because it has a display on the handlebar. I can cruise at 22kmh on it before lean back. 24kmh is if I push against the lean back. i am not sure of my max cruise speed on the mini pro but will look this weekend. i do know that I can hit 10.9 mph top speed in the app but at my size and weight that is scary to me so I cruise a bit slower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozpeter Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 On Amazon, the Segway USA people keep saying that the miniPro has 1800w peak power - in the chart above, the E+ has 2700w peak power (not continuous) so the power difference is not quite so much (but still significant). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetricUSA Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Yes, it would be nice to max out at 25 km/h (no more), it takes me 40 minutes to do 10 km now...to do it in 20 minutes would be great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozpeter Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 On many of the trips I make, the nature of the surface, or the frequent incidence of obstacles such as curb crossings, or the presence of other path users, would mean that a faster device wouldn't actually be able to average much more than the device as it is now. YMMV of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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