Noam Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Today, I popped by a shop and saw the Mten. It really is a cool looking ride and as light as a feather. Encouraged by my 500+ km on my Airwheel and Ninebot, I thought I give it a try and test-drove it. Gosh, it took me bloody two minutes just to stand on this baby. And still I only could manage it clingging onto boxes and shelves around me. Finally, I was able to move around the warehouse a couple of times and felt slitghly in control.However, I would like to know the main purpose on riding this euc? To me, it does not look like the wheel of choice for any long distance trips or on rough surfaces. Am I wrong? Could any of you lads having one of those share with me the main area of usage?I am perfectly sure its great fun, but I would not know when and where to ride it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Eucist Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Today, I popped by a shop and saw the Mten. It really is a cool looking ride and as light as a feather. Encouraged by my 500+ km on my Airwheel and Ninebot, I thought I give it a try and test-drove it. Gosh, it took me bloody two minutes just to stand on this baby. And still I only could manage it clingging onto boxes and shelves around me. Finally, I was able to move around the warehouse a couple of times and felt slitghly in control.However, I would like to know the main purpose on riding this euc? To me, it does not look like the wheel of choice for any long distance trips or on rough surfaces. Am I wrong? Could any of you lads having one of those share with me the main area of usage?I am perfectly sure its great fun, but I would not know when and where to ride it.For me it's mainly used as a training tool. With a smaller wheel diameter you can ride at low speeds and still balance (which makes it more safe for new learners). With larger wheels you have to reach a certain speed before you can balance. Hence you can even train inside your apartment (or house) and in very tight spaces. I have been training many people with success using the mten (1 and 2) indoors. Once they are proficient with the mten they can then ride 14 and 16 inch wheels easily as they would have already learned the balancing dynamics by then. I would not use it outdoors for commute. Larger diameter wheels handle potholes better and can generally go faster. However, it can still be useful if you plan to ride in crowded areas and when you have to go really slowly.I am perfectly aware that most people will not agree with me regarding training people on the 10 inch first. However, I strongly believe, contrary to popular opinion, it's best for learning how to ride. Just make sure to pad up the sides with thick pads first for the new learners. For myself I have used it to train myself idling and doing backwards figure eights. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noam Posted September 3, 2015 Author Share Posted September 3, 2015 Thanks @John Eucist! I get your point. So what you are saying is, if one can ride a 14, 16 or 18" euc there is no reason to buy a mten anymore. Except of course to help ones family or friends learning to ride. That is good news for swmbo, alas, not so good for me.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilmann Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Thanks @John Eucist! I get your point. So what you are saying is, if one can ride a 14, 16 or 18" euc there is no reason to buy a mten anymore. Except of course to help ones family or friends learning to ride. That is good news for swmbo, alas, not so good for me.?Hi @Noam, I learned how to get from A to B on a NB1 and my Msuper, but looking at the real EUC artists, there's plenty of room to grow . So I decided to get one of those Mten playmobiles to learn an have fun doing it. Once I have it, I'll report, whether that idea actually works for me.Living in Germany, there's another factor, which unfortunately is not quite as convincing on your end: WINTER . Looking at the prospect of me training indoors with my Msuper sold the missus instantly on the Mten 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Eucist Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Thanks @John Eucist! I get your point. So what you are saying is, if one can ride a 14, 16 or 18" euc there is no reason to buy a mten anymore. Except of course to help ones family or friends learning to ride. That is good news for swmbo, alas, not so good for me.?Well mten is lots of fun even if you can ride normal diameter wheels and actually BETTER for places that are crowded and where you don't want to go that fast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gimlet Posted September 3, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) Despite having an M18 and an mcmv2s+ and a KingSong 800w I regularly take my M10's 5km into my local city and back as it's so great for navigating the crowded pavements. That's 10km plus any riding around in the city which has traditional flagstones in many streets and cobbles in others. It copes with them all with a little care.I also take it along farm tracks and into fields with no problems. With a top speed of 23kph gps it's no slouch either.Personally it's the one wheel I have that is always guaranteed to bring a smile to my face. Even just in my own driveway practising my still dismal reverse riding. Edited September 3, 2015 by Gimlet 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag_Rip Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 here is a recent video of a m10 in action, pretty cool I have to admit.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) @John Eucist: Can you weigh the mten on your fancy new scale? It could be a nice wheel for my kids if it is indeed easy to learn on Edited September 3, 2015 by Daan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) Daan, it's Jason that has just got the postal scales and he doesn't have an M10 he can weigh. Edited September 3, 2015 by Gimlet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilmann Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Hi @Daan, Jane Mo (Gotway) posted this vid a while ago:And - I can't wait - my own Mten arrived at my home in Regensburg (Germany) today and will be with me in Berlin in a couple of days:I have a fairly accurate baggage scale here and can answer your question regarding the weight then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Did you get the 340Wh one Tilmann? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilmann Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 YESSSSS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esaj Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Someone had posted the weight of the MTen parts in the Electric Unicycle Users Wiki, but don't know if it's different model than the newer ones:Weight Breakdown for Gotway Mten2 (380Wh)PartWeight (grams)PercentageStator211921.4%Hub (+ Magnets and Tire)277828.0%Pedal Hangers8118.2%Pedals116811.8%Battery161016.2%Case + Control Board9509.6%Rims + Bolts4864.9%Total9922http://electricunicycle.wikia.com/wiki/MtenBreakdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Good choice! I'll try to bring one of mine next time I'm in Berlin. We're there most years. Perhaps we can meet up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilmann Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) Good choice! I'll try to bring one of mine next time I'm in Berlin. We're there most years. Perhaps we can meet up.Perhaps?? Don't you dare coming here without saying anything! I owe you at least a Masskrug of beer for your encouragement to stay calm with the sometimes a bit trying correspondence with GW Someone had posted the weight of the MTen parts in the Electric Unicycle Users Wiki, but don't know if it's different model than the newer ones:Weight Breakdown for Gotway Mten2 (380Wh)PartWeight (grams)PercentageStator211921.4%Hub (+ Magnets and Tire)277828.0%Pedal Hangers8118.2%Pedals116811.8%Battery161016.2%Case + Control Board9509.6%Rims + Bolts4864.9%Total9922http://electricunicycle.wikia.com/wiki/MtenBreakdownIs it OK, if I just put mine (newest model) on a scale without shredding it to bits & pieces??? Edited September 3, 2015 by Tilmann 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esaj Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Is it OK, if I just put mine (newest model) on a scale without shredding it to bits & pieces???Sure, I wasn't expecting you to tear it down juts for scaling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Eucist Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Hi @Daan, Jane Mo (Gotway) posted this vid a while ago:And - I can't wait - my own Mten arrived at my home in Regensburg (Germany) today and will be with me in Berlin in a couple of days:I have a fairly accurate baggage scale here and can answer your question regarding the weight then.The infamous disintegrating styrofoam mten2 packaging. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Eucist Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 I do have to point out that I don't like how the mten2 handles wider arc turns. The mten2 seems to always want to "return to center" more than other tires (mten1 tire is good). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noam Posted September 5, 2015 Author Share Posted September 5, 2015 Thanks to all of you for the quality feedback. I have read a little bit more about the Mten in the meantime and will most likely go back to the shop and buy one. Afterall our boy will turn 5 soon and it would be a good euc for him to start wheeling too. At the moment he is standing in front of his mother on the e-Scooter when we are going for a trip.@Tilmann, what do you mean Winter is not a convincing argument here? Also we in our little City-State have to cope with the harsh reality of low temperatures during wintertime. As a matter of fact, in December and January the temperatur falls quite often below 30 degree C !!! Of course with shocking consequences, such as being forced to wear long pants for instance. ?Thanks again for your input! I will share a brief review here once I have some mileage on my euc to be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilmann Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 @Tilmann, what do you mean Winter is not a convincing argument here? Also we in our little City-State have to cope with the harsh reality of low temperatures during wintertime. As a matter of fact, in December and January the temperatur falls quite often below 30 degree C !!! Of course with shocking consequences, such as being forced to wear long pants for instance. ?Yeah right, you poor thing! I suffered through the horrible winters of 2006 in Penang and 2011 in Singapore myself. I still go into raptures thinking about it... Enjoy your new toy and don't forget, it's your son's 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Enjoy your new toy and don't forget, it's your son's Fat chance of that! Once his son gets going he'll be buying a second just so he can compete! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noam Posted September 5, 2015 Author Share Posted September 5, 2015 Fat chance of that! Once his son gets going he'll be buying a second just so he can compete! Honestly, that did not crossed my mind for a second! ? Perish the thought, thin end of the wedge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilmann Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 @John Eucist: Can you weigh the mten on your fancy new scale? It could be a nice wheel for my kids if it is indeed easy to learn on @Daan: Here'ya go: Newest Mten comes in at 9.9 kg plus a few grams for padding (as it is downright unusable without). So, converted to imperialistic, make that a child compatible 22 lbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daan Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 @Daan: Here'ya go: Newest Mten comes in at 9.9 kg plus a few grams for padding (as it is downright unusable without). So, converted to imperialistic, make that a child compatible 22 lbs Thanks! but ouch -- that is quite heavy... I think the new IPS Zero 130Wh is supposed to be 8.6kg... I'll wait a bit to see some reviews about the IPS Zero but currently it looks like the most attractive option for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Thanks! but ouch -- that is quite heavy... I think the new IPS Zero 130Wh is supposed to be 8.6kg... I'll wait a bit to see some reviews about the IPS Zero but currently it looks like the most attractive option for me Yo can hardly compare the weight of a wheel that has a 340Wh battery to one that only has 130Wh! It's not really fair! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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