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  1. Help with my v5f

    Hi there i just got my v5f for 5 days and when i try to get max speed it pulls me back and its not even 13 mph yet , sorry for my english
  2. Hello! i’m new in the forum, but have already spent like 2 weeks reading all I could. I want to buy my first EUC mainly to commute. I‘m 1.93 and 92kg and I would like a 20-25km range and a possible average of 22-25km/h. My commute is about 10-15km each way, it depends on the route I’m taking, but I can charge it at work. I really love the ninebot one s2 look, but I do like the v5f too. I’ve been reading a lot of threads about them, and I’m hesitating. About the price, I can buy all of them with little differences. Thank you in advance!!
  3. Captainscooterpi L.A. Socal EUC group Going to a larger EUC My Impressions on upgrading from 14" to 16" I got my Inmotion V5F , catchy name huh, on March 30th 2017 and it took me 3 months 2 weeks to put 1001 miles on it. It was an upgrade from a Ninebot one A1, which served as my learning machine. So 14" wheels are all I have ever known. I love the portability and toyishness of the 14" under 30lbs wheels. They prepare you to get bounced off by their very lack of mass and weight beneath your feet. I often wonder why I even need them to glide above the ground, and maybe they are just a crutch for this un-noticed skill I have had all along. Then I hit a hidden salad bowl sized pothole and wonder why I am running all of a sudden with my wheel skidding off to the side. They are fun! So when I decided to get more speed and distance I settled in on the 16" Inmotion V8 for looks (really sleek even with the dizzy lights), the name (I am a car guy so V8), and the familiarity with the Inmotion ride. More on the Inmotion V8 specs and review later. After getting the V8 calibrated with the app to unlock the speed and tweak the lights and warnings it was time to test ride. I had tried the 16" and the 18" wheels at a gas station during a brief meeting with my local EUC club. They were ACM and Kingsong models and really had a vehicle type of ride stability. They felt like firm machinery compared to my nimble V5F lark. The Kingsong 14S and 16S were not available yet to buy, but on another EUC ride I was fortunate enough to try out an 840wh Kingsong 14C from Jeff and found it to be more than capable at getting me up and down the hollywood hills in Griffith Park. It never labored and has great pick up in acceleration. It was a bit more clunky in the corners than my V5F, but that might have been Beginner Wheel Skill Disorder. BWSD is the term I give for the unwieldy feel that a new wheel will have until your body has adjusted to the different mechanics and foot weight distributions that arise from different wheels. This was what I was feeling with the new V8 as I ventured down my hill towards sunset blvd. It would pull to one side or the other in a different way from my old V5F. Perhaps it is learning my style as I learn its. The phenomenon is still the same if not more pronounced with a brand new out of the package wheel. Inmotion has a - SCV forward correction - function in its app that will work after about 10 miles of use. Other models have ride feel adjustments in their Apps, and it is suggested to dial in or use these functions as it will make the break in time more comfortable, and give you more control. This worked for me as well as my body was adjusting to the new geometry of the larger wheel. Going up in wheel size doesn't make you taller, since the pedals are at the same height, but the body of the wheel will rest at different areas of your legs. I have a blister on my right upper ankle and a slight bruise on my left shin as evidence of this. The V8 is only 1" taller than the V5F with a trolley handle. However the top of the body is 2" taller. So for a short guy, the physics of leaning due to the taller y-axis(body) makes the leverage from the x-axis(pedals) less. My body either needs to lean out side to side further or with more force. Its not much more, but there does seem to be a natural learning curve. Combined with the additional weight of the wheel, these are some things to be aware of when upsizing, even within the same company. Obviously since all EUC companies have different designs, this happens when switching Wheel companies as well. I ride my V5F and V8 along the bike lanes and paths of Los Angeles. The streets in L.A. Bow up to drain water to the gutters and the bike lanes and space next to curbs is on a slight angle. This angle can force the wheel into the curb unless I ride the wheel at a little bit more than a 90° angle, leaning slightly into traffic. This has taken some adjustment and learning, so I have had to be more careful even though I have more than 1000 miles of riding experience. Turning is different, not better or worse as far as tightness of turns and control. The wobbles are back as the placement of my feet is adjusted to the new weight distribution, blabbity blah, blah. Enough of the first impressions, Lets skip 50 miles into the future... I really enjoy the 3mph extra cruising speed and max speed in the upgrade. I got to work within a few minutes of my car time average. The V8 feels both stable and nimble at cruising speeds of 15-19mph. The other day I rode over a bowl type of pothole that used to shake my 14" wheel, but the 16" took it in stride even while taking me by surprise. This is only day 3, but the wheel is beginning to learn my unorthodox extreme leaning into the curves. I am still getting used to the larger circumference while turning, because I am so used to the smaller wheel. Its getting much more natural with every new trip. Driving over shallow sand and loose dirt is easier with the heavier V8, but still a lot like dry water skiing. The 800 watt motor easily moves me uphills in dirt and asphalt or to maximum speed without laboring. I like to ride my EUC like a leaf balancing on a spinning top, and the V8 has that sort of stable lightness of a ride. I am only 145 lbs. but the V8 only gets around 21 or 22 miles, with pushing it to the limits and stopping for stop signs, before you reach the dreaded last bar or 20% battery left. The speaker which usually blurts out "be careful" (gotta get it to speak in Chinese) gives you a warning sound that sounds like the warning sound you'd get when a landline telephone used to get knocked off the hook for too long if you start to push it at this point. It limits the speed and gets a little cranky if you jump off a curb or over a large pothole at a fast speed under these battery conditions. All in all it wants the rider to be safe and reminds you of this a lot when the battery gets very low. Although the range is a little lacking, it took me around two hours to drive 22 miles. A 2 min stop to change out a new battery for another 22 miles is no big deal, and probably needed as a rest at that point anyway. Changing the battery in the V5F is a great undertaking requiring great feats of double speed fast motion photography, unscrewing and unhooking for 15 mins just to get to the battery compartment and unhook it. So get the V5F+ if you are thinking of range for that EUC. I have already ordered an extra battery for the V8 and charging port to hook it up to my chargers. To sum it all up, upgrading to a wheel to match ones skill level and expanded use is something enriching and easy to do. The options are all around and so far seem to be growing in numbers. I stuck with what was familiar but larger and more powerful. If Kingsong had their KS14S or KS16S available I may have gone with them. One thing to remember- you will use the new wheel in much the same way as the old one for the majority of the time. It should make these journeys more useful and enjoyable. If you can say that about your upgrade, you've succeeded. Some other brief thoughts... - I thought the larger 16" wheel would be more cumbersome- it is actually just as nimble - I had no idea how the extra speed would be so natural during the proper conditions. You don't miss what you don't experience... - Upgrading to a new wheel takes time to relearn some basic handling of the new machine. ADDENDUM- After 1000 miles on the V8 I would like to give an addendum. Upgrading can include motor size as well, so for extra comparison I will include the 500w and the 800w KS14C models that I also purchased. Both the V8 and the V5f are light-ish EUCs and this is part of their ride and portability appeal. Even though the V8 is almost 2 lbs heavier than the V5f it feels just as light. They are very balanced machines that barely need you except for acceleration. I have found when I jumped off in demonstration of how you run off a crash, the V8 went down the block without me, bouncing over sidewalk cracks till I was able to chase it down. It didnt even fall. This light balance is great for carrying up and down stairs which I do find myself doing more than I thought in my daily driving. In contrast to the KS14C which I also own in both 500w and 800w models, the Inmotions are like Hondas or jaguars. They are subtle speedsters that corner and cut up the trails with absolute ease. You barely feel the acceleration, but it is just as quick as the KS of comparable motor models. They are more suited for tricks and obstacle course type of riding. The 800w KS14C feels like a 4wd 1980 AMC eagle or scout. They settle in at 30 lbs plus or minus, but they conceal none of this weight and even seem to wear it proudly. It does have a ton of torque. You can feel it seem to hold reserve power even as it barrels up a 27° grade. The 500w KS is also as torque-ey for someone of my limited carriage. The ride is shuddery and stiff and feels and sounds like good old american car plastic. This is a good thing. It has the effect of making one feel like the machine is concentrating just as much if not more than I am in a reassuring way. The 800w KS14c has a tendency to overheat on days over 82°F under stress or in direct sun for long, but I have had no such alerts on the 500w model. The Inmotions off-road riding is an exercise in rider control. You really feel like the machine is more like equipment on your feet. The Kingsongs ride more like you are riding a sled or slab suspended on a wheel using your feet. It is a subtle difference, but one that is more pronounced imo on the heavier Gotways and Msupers. I love this aspect of the Inmotion ride. I wish they had a little more torque and more range, I have never been stranded by either, and although I would love more speed, I have recorded 21.7mph on my darknessbot app. 25mph would be good every once in a while. I love the portability and the fact that I have never reached the heat limitations of the Inmotions. I have no idea where I would upgrade to now since Inmotion has stalled in their model upgrades, but others seem to be stepping up. I will see with open eyes and make a fully informed future decision.
  4. Hello fellow riders, Here I have Inmotion V5F+ for sale. *Good condition *Mileage is approximately - 250-350km *Cool looking design with some stickers on the inner shells *Protective foam/padding on the sides (DIY made) *EU type charger + original Box Price - 450 euro + 50-100 euro shipping (I'll need to clarify the price depending on the country I ship to). Will ship via UPS, DHL or DPD. Location - Estonia. If you're from Finland or Sweden and want to come by ferry and buy it in person, that would be awesome. We can also have a nice chat regarding our EUC adventures. Let me know if you're interested. Thanks
  5. V5 copycat

    Today I found this copycat of v5 rebranded to run roll. I have no idea of what are happening but I didn't surprise about another copyright abuse from a Spanish business. https://runroll.es/producto/start-light/
  6. Gotway ACM 820wh / Some Questions!

    Hello folks, I've been riding my Inmotion V5F+ for a about year now with total mileage approximately 5100km. Recently, I felt like I got bored of this wheel. To be more concrete, the speed and range doesn't satisfy me anymore. I feel like I want more. So I've been looking for a replacement and thought about Gotway ACM 820wh. Would be cool if you could answer my questions! 1) How far can you get with 820wh version? Will it give a significant increase in range comparing to Inmotion V5F+ (480wh). 2) How nimble is the ACM? Again, comparing to V5F+. 3) What is the maximum safe-cruising speed that can be achieved? On my V5F+ I can hit 25-27 km/h. 4) Is the speed increase that noticeable between 25 km/h and 35-37 km/h? How does it really feel? 5) Do you feel Gotway ACM the same way as Inmotion or there's a new learning curve involved? As for now, that's all =)
  7. Charge Doctor on Inmotion Wheels

    Has anyone had trouble with their Charge Doctor not turning itself off automatically (auto-cut)? It seems like mine is never shutting off and instead just reducing the amount of amps to an extremely small number (like .05). I've read on other threads that the batteries charge quickly up to a certain point and then slow down, but I've even let it go overnight but it's still not turning itself off. Maybe it's time for a reset?
  8. Hitting Tilt back, a lot...

    Does anyone know if it's OK to hit "tilt back" a lot when riding? My son is riding an Inmotion V5F and I have him set to a lower speed (12mph), but he keeps hitting the tilt back. Ideally, I'd just increase the speed threshold so that he doesn't hit tilt back so often, but I (obviously) like the idea of regulating his speed a bit. However, if the wheel is going to fail in some way due to hitting this threshold too often, then maybe it's safer to increase the speed threshold? He seems to handle the tilt back action of the wheel just fine, he just finds it annoying ... Thanks in advance for your feedback!
  9. I purchased this wheel from @Jason McNeil about 3 months ago for my sons birthday, but had to wait until (1) his actual bday (4/28) and (2) the most important part, he was supposed to save half the money . Anyway, it all came together today and go figure, it took him about 20 mins to be up and rolling, seriously not fair!
  10. The V5F as sold by eWheels optionally comes with a "rapid" charger that outputs 2.5 amps. The standard charger that comes with the V5F outputs 1.5 amps. I have both and figured I'd use the standard charger for ordinary at-home charges since I don't care how long they take, and pack the rapid charger for all-day trips so I could pick up some juice along the way. The two disadvantages of the rapid charger are its size and weight. It's considerably larger than the standard one, which makes it less appealing to carry in my backpack. (See photos.) The standard charger weighs 15.1 ounces (428 grams). Rapid charger is nearly double at 1 pound, 10 ounces (744 grams). The rapid charger also has a glass fuse which I suppose might break if the unit was dropped, but spares are supplied for that possibility. I don't baby it, and so far it has been fine. Even with the added size and weight I still prefer to carry it for day trips. Here are the result of a recent charging session with the rapid charger on my V5F. This is with a relatively new battery (<200 miles on it). START: 30% battery (was reading 27% immediately after the ride but I let the battery sit for an hour so the voltage could settle for a more accurate reading) 20 minutes charge time (coffee break): 50% indicated 30 minutes charge time (lunch break): 60% indicated. (Note on the V5F this means about 12-15 km of safe riding distance for me.) 40 minutes charge time (leisurely lunch): 75% 55 minutes charge time: 90% END I stopped here since the battery will charge very slowly for the last 10% and so there's not much advantage to a rapid charger for topping off to 100%. On another thread, @Marty Backe asked if it was really worthwhile stopping for "recharge breaks" on a trip. If you have a huge battery pack with a 5+ hour charge time, it's probably not worth it, but you probably have the range to keep going anyway. For lighter wheels like the V5F, V5F+, Ninebot One E+, etc. with 320-480wh batteries it makes a big difference, especially with a faster charger than the standard one. I can stop for a 20 minute break and pick up several miles of range, which effectively gives my V5F a usable range of something like 32km with two short charging breaks. For urban rides where power can be found (in coffee shops, restaurants, bars, public buildings, etc) this works well.
  11. V5F+ Beginner - Help Please

    I received my V5F+ yesterday and have had a lot of difficulty getting starting learning this thing. I've watched several videos and tutorials and did a lot of research prior to its arrival, and am still struggling to get on the thing comfortably. I've seen a few showing a person practicing by putting one foot on the pad and balancing while slowly bringing the other foot up, but this put tremendous weight against the calf of the mounted foot and is a bit painful. After 2 days and hours of practicing, I still cannot mount without it hurting my calf and wobbling all over the place trying to get upright. Additionally, the process of mounting and dismounting puts a lot of stress on my calf, to the point of my calf being bruised a very dark shade of blue and purple. Is this normal, or am I doing something wrong? Also, most videos show it touching both calves, but my calves physically cannot touch the pads at the same time because I guess I'm slightly bow-legged or something. Is that an issue for stability or is it workable?
  12. Are the Inmotion devices such as the V5F and V8 UL certified? Have there ever been any reports of fires or battery explosions with their products? I've been trying to decide between a V5F+ and a Segway S1 which is UL 2272 certified, but the Inmotion website doesn't mention any sort of safety certifications. The V5F definitely has preferable specs to me, but I'm concerned about safety after seeing so many reports of hoverboard fires.
  13. Impressions 60 days with inm v5f

    Hi. This is my third euc and my first quick review. After a couple of mounts and 669,9 km. think I can show how is riding this euc and gonna try in English, not my native language, pls forgive my bad grammar. The incorrect information from inmotionIberia of max speed and range where it says 40 km/h and 40km but may say 25 km/h and 30km piss me off. But the price was ok for me (700€) I don't want the refound offered and decided to keep it. The advantage of that euc are many, good looking design, useful handle and lift swich. Bright front light, back light blinks when brake. Very comfortable due his curved shapes and hi padded sides. Hi pedals position are damn good for off road. Impressive torque, good autonomy and content weight. Need to improve the pedals and trolley quality, those get loose or comes with it from fabric (trolley). The inmotion app is full of busg. The battery position on top rise the gravity center and makes really hard for boomerang or coin flip tricks. The body shell are quite slim, that not help to keep it straight in hi speed pushing with the legs. They haven't grip at all to pull it up in jumps, foots slide unless you put the extra pads who inmotion gives in for ankles protection. I think is really good for cross due his hi pass pedals and big torque. Not to heavy to do tricks, and enough hard to not break if you don't do it well (unless the trolley bar and the pedals). Sorry but I can't compare it against other in his league, I only have other cheap "oneWheel" Who can't be compared. I want to make an extensive review with my top range, hi slope climb, max turning inclination, better pedal angle and more. Please, make your questions and comments, would be nice gather a great data base for all euc together
  14. Wheel spin when lifted

    Hello, first posted topic and hoping it isn't a stupid one... Can anyone tell me why the wheel spins out of control when it's lifted from the ground and the button on the handle is not pressed? I know that the inmotion app allows the handle button to be disabled, but I can't seem to find out how to disable the initial action of the wheel spinning in the first place. Is this a feature of some kind that I'm just not considering?
  15. Hey Inmotion riders, I've been repairing my wheel's tire recently (changed the inner tube) and after putting everything back together found out that wheel is not maintaining balance properly while standing on it. Basically it starts out properly, have the balance, but once I step in and lean forward the balance of the wheel and pedals is kinda shaking up and down. What could be possibly a problem? I screwed everything back in place, super tight. Doesn't seem to be the case. Everything was cool before the teardown. Also if anybody has a picture of control board with all the connections could you please attach it here? Thanks
  16. Hi, so I just bought the V5F inmotion electric unicycle and I have ridden it for a little bit. It is winter right now for me and about 27 degrees fahrenheit. While I was riding it, I heard some kind of warning, probably the warning telling me that it was too cold or something, (it definatly wasn't about speed or anything like that cause i wasn't going fast at all) and then I started to fall off of it so i tried to slow down as much as I could, then jumped off of it making the unicycle to kinda slide on its side. Keep in mind I was not going that fast at all, maybe 8-10 mph. When I went over to start it up again, nothing happened. I took it back to my house and plugged it in to the charging cable. The unicycle was kinda wet cause of the snow. When i plugged it in, the charging lights did not come on but the red light on the charging box was red. I let it sit like that for a couple of hours and then came back and saw that the red light had become green but when i pressed the sensor button, nothing happened. Its like the thing is dead even though it is fully charged. The bluetooth wont work obvioustly cause of the fact that the thing isn't on. I just need help and am wondering what to do. The unicycle is still a bit damp kinda in where the wheel is so im wondering if that needs to fully dry.
  17. V5f+ Diassembly Video

    Hey guys, Is there any video on web or a pdf/web guide for Inmotion V5F diassembly with hq pics/details? I've seen this video But it's not high resolution and I can't get some of the parts of the video. Anyone? Help?
  18. Hi, I am 40 years old total newbie, who after month long lurking around the forum and gathering all the useful insights and reviews decided to buy Inmotion V5F+ as my first wheel. Reading all the positive experiences I bought the wheel through @Jason McNeil and can only say that his highly regarded status is more than deserved, man has been very forthcoming and answered all my questions before and after the purchase. Wheel came in perfect condition, with some very nice and useful accessories like the handle and protective cover added for free by Jason. Through watching the videos and reading all the helpful advices on the forum, I managed to get a grip on the wheel in few days and now after 3 weeks I already have 550km on it. I am using it for daily commute to work when the weather allows (8km in one direction) and for strolling around the city. After years of only driving by car it feels like re-exploring the city all over again. After one week my wife and older son also started learning. Son is already able to ride very well and wife is able to ride 10-15 meters You can imagine that the wheel took some beating serving as a learning wheel for three people, but so far it is performing flawlessly. It has plenty of range (I am 82kg and it still had 29% battery left after 34km trip), more than enough speed for the first wheel and it climbs up the steep hills very easily. Obviously I don’t have much experience but my only gripe might be with the tire that came with the wheel. Tire is “Hota” brand in dimension 14x2.125, it is kind of “slick” tire and I find that it lacks some grip on the fine gravel. When it gets hot after longer rides it gets somewhat “mushy” and it is not able to hold the pressure above 40 PSI - I pump it to 45 and after 10 minutes it is again on 40 (on the tire it states – inflate to 36 PSI). I would like to know has someone experimented with tires and found out which ones are the best all around tires?
  19. Hello I've recently fell off from the wheel as the engine overpowered whilst hitting the maximum speed limit and unfortunately the wheel has been exposed to the water. It doesn't start neither by pushing the button or trying to recharge. Any chance this could be fixed? If yes, then how? Thanks
  20. New Inmotion V5F+ Firmware?

    Hey guys, I've recently purchased V5F+ and have been riding it for a month. Feels really good, although I'm started to get annoyed by the danger-notification and speed limit. I heard some news that there will be new firmware to increase the speed from 25km/h to 27km/h... So any estimate on when this gonna be available? If there's no easy answer, does anyone know how to mute the danger-notification? The app doesn't do that, affects only other sounds unfortunately. You know, I can deal with tilt-backs, just when it screams out ''danger, please slow down" every 5 meters it kinda gets to nerves Anyway, I'd be grateful if someone could let me know if this possible. Thanks
  21. Hi, I just received my V5F and I'm completely hooked, this means that I ride more and faster every time. The battery is lasting approx. 20km, doing 20-22 km/h most of the time. Still pretty far from advertised 30km, as I really want to use to commute home - work - home with just one charge, the 20km are tight. Anyone manage to upgrade the wheel with the LG MH1 cells?if so what are the costs?
  22. For those interested, here is my comparison of the new 14" Ninebot One S2 [310wH] (Retail $950) vs the new 14" InMotion V5F+ [460wH] (Retail $995) Special thanks to @fearedbliss for letting me try out his new InMotion V5F+ during a good, few hour tour of Brooklyn and Coney Island (my first time in fact!). For reference, I am a 72kg rider with a foot size of US Mens 8.5, and write this comparison as just a regular EUC enthusiast, model and company agnostic. SPEED Out of the box, the V5F+ and S2 should, per spec, have the same ~15.5mph top speed, but I had a hard time catching up to @fearedbliss when I was following on my S2. The S2 is in full tiltback when crossing the 15mph threshold, while the V5F+ tiltback threshold seems to go a little higher. InMotion seems to have plans to increase the V5F+ top speed in later firmware updates, while Ninebot has not stated any plans to increase the S2's top speed in the near future. RANGE Per spec, the V5F+ with slightly bigger battery and better LG cells, should have 50% better range than the S2. While I didn't conduct an exact scientific test between the two, suffice it to say, during our lunch break mid-ride, I had to find the nearest outlet for my S2, while @fearedbliss's V5F+ went the entire few hour trip without a recharge. (for E+ owners, I get the same 12 mile range on my S2 as I did on my old E+ -- as always, rider weight dependent). RESPONSE [S2] Like with all Ninebot Ones, the S2 has a hard response. The pedals maintain a solid, perpendicular shelf during the entire drive, just like I used to experience on my old E+. Unfortunately, with the new Ninebot app, I can't seem to find a way to adjust the hardness like I could with my old E+ and old Ninebot app. [V5F+] The V5F+ has a unique version of a hard response that I quite liked. Initially, inbetween braking and acceleration, there is a slight 'wavy' rock to the pedals. However, when engaging acceleration forward, the pedals will cock up and lock at a slight angle (not as steep as tiltback), staying rock solid and allowing you to really lean into the wheel during acceleration. I am always cautious about not overleaning due to past mishaps (all my faults!), but with the V5F+, I felt like I could be more aggressive in pushing my weight into the wheel for acceleration, more than I can on my other wheels. Maybe this is the kind of response @Jeffrey Scott Will and all the other SoloWheel owners rave about when talking about their SoloWheels? BUMPS [S2] The S2 as a 14" wheel handles bumps and jumps off curbs just fine (with the familiar Ninebot One rattle). Bumps or running into minor divots will set off a single momentary beep that I believe is a current surge overlean warning (which is great!). The same warning is triggered when I try to accelerate too fast from slow speeds too, ie. overlean. [V5F+] The V5F+ going over small bumps and landing off curbs feels like you are riding on a solid mass of immovable rubber. Jumping off curbs will make no rattling noise whatsoever, and driving through small bumps, like a raised sidewalk onramp curb, feels like nothing. PEDALS / HANDLING [S2] Ninebot Ones have always had fairly comfortable pedals, and the S2 is no different. They measure about 7.5" long, 5.25" wide, and sit 4" high from the ground, a bit low for my tastes and carving style. [V5F+] To me, this is one of the areas of the V5F+ that shines. The V5F+ pedals, despite appearances, are one of the longest (8") and highest (5.5") stock pedals I've experienced on a wheel (for additional reference, my KS-18A mk2 pedals are 7" long, 5" wide, 4.5" high). The combination of the less wide (5"), high-sitting pedals allowed me to really angle the wheel close to the ground during turns, without pedal scrape. I got so used to this setup that, going back to the S2, I kept pedal scraping trying to make the same deep turns! COMFORT [S2] The S2 has no padding to speak of, so you must attach your own. I stuck some A/C insulating foam to the shin regions with velcro, which does the job. The pedals, again, are a good size and feel comfortable. [V5F+] The V5F+ sports fairly cushy and thick built-in shin cushions (thicker and cushier than my KS-18A's) that are very comfortable. The relatively long pedals, while sporting less width, were more comfortable than I thought they would be from pictures, no complaints here. WARNINGS / SOUNDS The S2 has many loud beeps that make sense for top speed and overlean warnings, but are a bit obnoxious (same volume) when powering on and lifting the handle. Ninebot really needs to make these non-warning type beeps lower in volume or manually adjustable through the app. In contrast, the sounds of the V5F+, in both tone and volume, are more palatable; the power on/off sound reminds me of old Sega video game sounds!. On another note, both wheels carry no audible motor frequency noise, which is a nice change from the KingSong motor noise (I believe Gotway as well has this). PORTABILITY [S2] Unfortunately, Ninebot has not learned the lessons of it's previous One line, and there is no Ninebot or 3rd party trolley handle solution. While the S2 @ 27lbs is considered a lighter EUC, I would not want to carry the wheel for prolonged periods of time. Hopefully they will develop a suitable option, but something tells me this will be in the form of a poorly designed afterthought, just like the un-wieldy, eyesore of a unicorn trolley handle they sell for the 16" One series. [V5F+] While @fearedbliss hadn't received his V5F+ trolley handle yet, from pictures, it looks well thought out and well integrated into the overall wheel's design, what with it's fold-out, curved shape. It's great that InMotion designed this custom trolley handle and made it available at launch, not assuming all their riders are muscled and ripped enough to carry around the V5F+'s 26.5lbs over prolonged distances / periods of time. HANDLE / WHEEL KILL [S2] The S2 handle is made of a firm rubberized material (spongier than the 16" One Handle), fixed on both ends to the wheel by hidden mechanical, spring-like mechanisms that, when the wheel is lifted by the handle, pulls slightly out of the unit, beeping and engaging the wheel kill function (provided the wheel is not spinning above 5MPH). The overall feel is sturdy, yet comfortable. I do have occasion where, when I lift the wheel, the spring mechanisms do not fully pull out properly at first to initiate the wheel kill, but this is rare and quickly corrects itself under the pull of its own weight while continuing to carry it. [V5F+] The V5F+ handle is a continuous extension of the plastic body/shell, just like the KingSong KS-14C & KS-18A carry handles. A long, thin plastic button runs along most of the underbelly of the handle so that grabbing the handle naturally presses the button against your hand against the weight of the wheel, engaging the wheel kill function. Although the button is long, you could feasibly lift the wheel while not depressing the button, for, say, lift tests, which is nice, because with the S2, you have to dig through a few settings menus in the Ninebot app to turn off the wheel kill feature. ** I have to say, the handle-initiated wheel kill in general is extremely useful for running in and out of shops, and lifting the unit quickly up tall curbs without having to power on/off the unit (thankfully both wheels power on fairly quickly: the V5F+ is a long press of its touch pad power button, while the S2 is a slightly quicker press of its regular mechanical power button). Plus, carrying the powered-on S2 with green LED ring battery level display adds to the eye candy factor! VISIBILITY The V5F+ clearly wins in the visibility department, sporting full blown headlight and tail lights. I like that the front light is manual on/off, as, for comparison, my KS-18A light sensor tends to be finnicky in inbetween daylight and nighttime scenarios, or switching in and out of shade. The S2 only sports the led ring light (with braking light), which is now stock visible from the front and back, but the lights from these angles are not particularly the brightest. BATTERY METER As those have stated, being able to look directly down to see the battery meter on the V5F+ is very convenient, especially mid-ride, as opposed to the S2, which breaks out of the side led battery indicator pattern during motion. WHEEL CLEARANCE Both wheel shells are fully circular and sit fairly flush with the wheel at around 1/2" for both, but I love how the V5F+ has gone a step further to make the bottom edge of the shell fold up (with a firm yank) so you can easily access the tire valve without an extension for inflating. BOTTOM LINE / CLOSING THOUGHTS @Jason McNeil has a real winner in the new InMotion V5F+. It really feels like InMotion took the best of each competitor's wheels, threw in a few extra, well-thought out conveniences, and rolled it into this first foray into the single wheeled EUC market. For all the Ninebot One E+ owners out there looking to upgrade, I would have to put this wheel right next to the KingSong KS-16B as the 2 best overall upgrade paths, with the V5F+ being the more compact and lighter option. The S2, on the other hand, is still a solid wheel (basically a 14" E+), albeit comparatively over-priced (as is the case with Ninebot in general), but not an end-all be-all solution IMO. The only real advantage it has over the V5F+, I would say, is that the batteries (2x 155wH packs) are TSA compliant for travel, and semi-easy to remove. (note: the 4 battery screws have a tendency to get lost through the deep holes of the battery casing if you're not using a magnetic screwdriver). =====UPDATE (7/27/2016)===== (additional observations, now that I have the V5F+ in hand) GRIPTAPE The V5F+ pedals are way grippier than the S2. The S2 griptape is similar to a fingernail file, while the V5F+ has a deeper, more textured grooves, ala heavier duty skateboard griptape. POWERING The power connector looks very USB-esque, but the best part is, it's symmetrical! Meaning, there's no wrong way to plug it in, unlike every other EUC power connector out (LEMO, GX16, etc.). Think all wheels should use this, as I always hate fumbling to quickly plug the chord in (wish I knew the name of this connector type...) Charging the powered off V5F+ will automatically turn on a rolling light display (which I cannot seem to turn off) that shows the progress of charging via the battery indicator. The S2 has a similar display, but you have to turn it on manually. Both wheels when plugged in and in this battery display mode do not engage the gyroscope. *One note about the V5F+ power button is that it is very sensitive. While installing the trolley handle, I repeatedly turned the wheel on unintentionally. TROLLEY HANDLE / PORTABILITY From pictures, I assumed that the V5F+ trolley handle was metal, but in hand, that was not the case. The trolley handle is made up of primarily a sturdy plastic (like a plastic wiffle ball bat) with a rubber grip and feels hollow on the inside. This material choice makes sense to keep the total weight of the unit down. Plastic aside, the trolley handle feels plenty sturdy, and with the curved design, I'm able to easily push the wheel around, even when the wheel is not powered on. However, I wouldn't recommend trying to lift the wheel by the extended trolley handle, as I think that would put unnecessary stress on it. And although both V5F+ with trolley handle installed and the S2 weigh 27 lbs, the V5F+ for some odd reason feels a little lighter when carrying. Not sure why, but might be due to the V5F+ battery residing higher in the unit than the S2 batteries. CALIBRATION I really like the V5F+ calibration vs other systems I've experienced. You basically adjust a slider in the app, which will immediately and incrementally re-level the wheel accordingly, without having to restart/re-power on the wheel. In comparison, the Ninebot and KingSong calibrations require you to have steady hands in manually adjusting the wheel to the right level, and then holding that position while fumbling to lock in that setting in the app with an app button press, or having to press the physical power button on the wheel.
  23. My first post here, first thanks to everybody for such interesting forum about EUs (I find quite difficult to find reliable information about EU outside this forum) I'm the happy owner of a Ninebot One C with just 3 months old (it was a present as I never think on buying and EU before). After 3 months (around 400km only as I do not have much free time) with it I still find every possible excuse to go out and ride it as it really both really practical and fun to ride. The problem is my One C is both short of speed (around 15kmh) and range (10km approx) so one of the wheel I have my eyes on is the Inmotion V5. As I live in China there are many choices but some models are just for exports (even you can still buy them in one way or in another in China, like the V5F, S2 etc.) Regarding my question, can somebody tell me which is the difference between the V5F and V5D or is just the same model with different name? For the V5F+ they improvement is on the battery right? I mean speed and power is the same, but range should increase no? Thanks!!
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