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  1. WARNING ** THIS BATTERY MAY LIMIT YOUR TOP SPEED ** OVERVIEW: More4Mini is selling a new 3rd-Party battery made for them by the OEM WorldPower Shenzhen World Electric Co. Ltd. “Extended Range Replacement Battery for Segway miniPRO - 355wh 6400mAh” Specifications are listed as: Model: WP-DMR-01 Configuration: 15S2P Voltage: 55.5VDC Capacity: 355Wh / 6400mAh Listed on the battery is LG INR18650, implying that it is based on 18650 cells by LG, The More4Mini website also states that LG cells are used, but could not provide the specific model number of the cells. So it is really just about name-dropping, and not about verifiable specifications. Somewhat useful given the problems with battery manufacturing, but lacking for a technical product. If we can assume the specifications are done similar to the original batteries, then the 355Wh / 6400mAh hour capacity would be when charged to 63V rather than the 55.5V Nominal voltage, or the 59.5V used by the standard North American Charger. More4Mini claims a 20% increase in mileage, but does not have any basis for this statement that they were willing to share. Based on the full Wh or mAh capacity, the increase would be somewhere between 12% and 14%, but the dynamics for estimating the increase are too varied given the potentially different discharge profile of the battery, and the operating environment variables such as rider weight, terrain, individual user’s speed/acceleration profile, enforced speed reductions by the MiniPro, etc. I would assume the stated 20% increase would be based on the 59.5V charge of the standard charger, but it is not explicitly stated. COST METRICS: Using the full 355Wh spec and the current cost of $200US, this works out to $0.56/Wh, which is an OK price, but not a super deal in terms of pure $/Wh. The Segway 310Wh battery, based on More4Mini pricing ($255) works out to $0.82/Wh which is on the expensive side. Keep in mind one is not getting the full capacity of these batteries if using the stock charger, so the real theoretical cost is higher. The actual cost would need to measure the actual Watt/Hours used during operating the device as all these numbers are nominal and can vary widely from actual use on the widely varying motor load of the MiniPro. Raw cost of 18650 capacity for a general consumer ranges from $0.20-$0.80/Wh ($0.40 for quality cells), and one would actually expect to get a discount when buying in bulk such as a battery pack as the extra electronics usually are very inexpensive. so a cost of $0.40/Wh is good value in a pack like this, but since it is custom with limited demand, the $0.56/Wh cost of this battery is reasonable. TESTING: I bought this battery just for fun, and to see how well it worked with the MiniPro. I feel the reported increase in capacity is not enough for someone to want to upgrade their battery, but if one is looking for a new battery or a second battery, then the increased capacity would be nice. It should be able to maintaining a higher top-speed for longer at the very least, and that is useful as I really hate how the MiniPro must reduce top speed as the battery is discharged. The battery weighed 1923g. This is roughly 110g less than a fully charged Segway 310Wh battery. The voltage of the battery when delivered was 57.9V. The battery is sealed, so I won’t be ripping it open today before testing. The standard charger connector is used with the threaded collar just as the original, and the connector cover is good. I like the charge connector cover better than the original, it stays put, and I think it will last as long. The battery did not include the small rubber insulators/seals/washers for the 4 screw holes, but it does have the recesses for them. This is unfortunate, but not a huge deal. There is a little LED on the back of the battery, or at least a window for one, but it does not blink or do anything when the battery is not connected to a charger. There was no light on the battery when connected to a charger either, at least not at its current charge state. I suspect the light is non functional. NO BMS COMMUNICATION. As expected the battery has no communication from the BMS in the pack (I presume there is one), with the MiniPro, so there is “no” battery information provided in the App. The App shows the speed is limited to 10km/h on my Segway, I’m using v4.0 of the Ninebot App, and I’ll have to check the firmware version. Alexey from More4Mini, said he was not speed limited, but did not use the App. I will need to do a road test to see if that is true, but I’m not very hopeful as I think the firmware has limited the speed with the battery. If true this is a real show-stopper, if it just means one cannot use the App when using the battery this is less of an issue, but inconvenient since you won't be able to watch your speed. tried charging the battery from its delivered state using the stock Ninebot charger specified as 59.5V (OC Voltage measures 59.61V). After 80 minutes the charger light turned to the undocumented yellow/amberish color, the battery measured 59.18V (charger connected), then at 90min it had turned to green and the battery measured 59.21V (charger connected). The ending voltage of the battery (charger disconnected, 15+ min rest) was 59.15V. So it would appear that charging the battery with the stock MiniPro charger worked as expected. I moved it onto a 63V charger, since I figured at this point it was best to have a full charge on the batteries. After 45min the charger had a green light, and I didn’t give it any extra balance or top up time, the battery measured 62.3V Unfortunately the road-test failed. Speed was severely limited I could not not ride it, it was just too annoying. Tilt-back would just bring me to a standstill as I tried to go up a small incline near my place. it worked ok for a 5km/h, or less, trip to the garbage bins, but anything more than that it was not tolerable for me. Since it was dark and starting to snow I didn’t spend any time trying different things. I never connected with the App after installing the battery, so clearly, as is pretty well understood, the firmware was limiting the speed. I used my oldest Segway but it uses, v1.4.0 firmware and I don’t plan to update it as I’ve heard nothing about the latest updates and I’m worried they will restrict the 63V chargers or may other annoying changes as they have done in the past. It is hard to downgrade the firmware and I don't want to mess with that. CONCLUSION: I’d recommend sticking with the official batteries if you are on firmware 1.4.0 or later as this battery is not really usable with a 10km/h limit (or possibly even slower before tiltback kicks in). Maybe someone else will test it with earlier firmware or More4Mini will provide more information on what is required to remove the speed restriction, but it seems to work the same as all the other 3rd-Party batteries so I’m not sure anything really can be done outside of changing the firmware. I guess this was a case of too-good-to-be-true.
  2. Me and my son just moved from segways to unicycles, and want to sell our (barely or not even used) segways. The miniPlus (white, w remote, from China) has 250km and a few minor scratches. The Mini (black, Chinese version) is new in the box, unopened. I live in Portugal and they can reach anywhere in Europe within days. I was thinking €500 and €400, respectively, but make an offer!
  3. Amazon has been dropping the price on the 2018 version of the MiniPro steadily by a few dollars for a while sometimes, like today, making several drops in a single day. The current price at the time of this message was $394.68 SEGWAY miniPRO Smart Self Balancing Transporter 2018 Edition, 12.5 Mile Range, 10 MPH Sold and Shipped by Amazon.com Not a bad deal, and at the current rate of price changes it still may go lower. Unfortunately it has the slightly lower capacity battery, and the company should be boycotted for such a move. The real name of this version is the 2018 Downgraded Edition, and how many companies do that and have the product survive? If it hits $300 it's a good buy for back-up parts, although it's not likely to fall that far.
  4. owner of minlite Segway and I have 33 miles on it.. im new to Segway.
  5. Hi guys. We sell spare parts and accessories for Nienbot MiniPro and Xiaomi Mini on ebay and are looking now for wholesellers in None-EU countries. We provide best prices for tyres, park stoppers, long and short handlebars, chargers, batteries, wheel's covers, other accessories and spare parts for Nienebot MiniPro / Xiaomi Mini. Ask us for more information.
  6. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019Z6HS86 $439.99 No mention of exact model or battery capacity in the listing, but it is no the "2018 Edition" listing, and uses the same ASIN as the previous model 320, so it might be the one with the larger battery, or it may be false advertising. with Amazon though, shipping it back would be easy so worth the gamble if you need one. Update: it does say 14mi range, which is the range of the older one with the larger battery. (aka the good one)
  7. Does any one have the new 2018 edition of the miniPro (MiniPro 260)? I'm very surprised to see the &*$#@s at Segway/Ninebot have reduced the battery capacity of the MiniPro to 236Wh. They clain you only loose 2 miles in range. Sounds like BS, unless they also increased the stock charger in the US to 63V to make up for the extra loss. This may be a dishonest way to make the new Mini-Plus look better in terms of specs. Wondering if anyone has the new 2018 model and can check the specs for the charger? Anyone that is looking to buy a MiniPro would be wise to get the MiniPro 320, and the aftermarket charger instead. This seems to be one of the most bungled products i've had experience with.
  8. This thread, where someone was attacked while riding, affected my thoughts on safety and self protection. Whether riding or walking, all of us may have encountered unpleasant people and animal interactions. It's best to avoid being placed in those compromised situations. Living in a large city, riding in new areas, and being responsible for protecting others will inevitably create an unpleasant encounter. How would you respond? I don't know the answer to that myself. I can only prepare mentally, physically and emotionally. A martial arts training has helped my confidence and skills, as I continue to age. So I have given more thought to that preparation as I ride my Segway MiniPro in Chicago. There are places that I should not travel at any time. However cautious I may be, it's responsible to be constantly aware. Especially more so, as I have become more mobile and potentially more vulnerable. Therefore, some preparation is required to live safely in a modern city. Cane Martial Arts is one way that fits the Mini and EUC transporter rider in everyday life. ➰
  9. Anyone have pictures of their light mods for the mini/mini-pro? here is my ugly, but very functional mod. The headlight does put the slightest imbalance that causes the mini to roll forward sometimes i will counter weight it shortly. Uses an extra light i had sitting around, a Klarus G20 with Keeppower 26650 6500mAh battery. It has quite a wide beam which really help to see all road and and imperfections such as dips even in the darkest conditions. I rarely use it on high though. It is also a handy 3rd hand when i need a light digging into my pack or something. The attachment is quite ugly and if the mini tips forward the light bezel is the first thing that makes contact with the ground. It's SS so not much of an issue, but i may put a rubber protector on it. Only used it for a couple of weeks, and only a couple days as a permanent mount shown here. The tail tight is just a cheap big tail light mounted with typical bicycle rubber strap mount. I leave it in a flashing mode. Another cheap Cyrolite Hotshot Micro tail lamp is on my helmet now.
  10. I have seen videos of MiniPro riders with selfie sticks and none, so far, from an aerial view using a drone. I wonder if anyone else is considering experimenting with a video recording using both the MiniPro and drone? ➰
  11. Great deal! $399 for a refurbished MiniPro Segway miniPRO Personal Transporter (Certified Refurbished) https://sport.woot.com/offers/segway-minipro-personal-transporter-8
  12. Hi all, For those who are Amazon Prime members, the Segway MiniPro costs only $499 for the next 24-30 hours during the "Prime Day" sales going on this week. You can sign up for the service as a trial member for 30 days and start ordering immediately. BTW, it is possible to be a Prime member and order from the US site even if one lives outside the US (I have done it for many years). Some items can be shipped outside the US, although this item can only be delivered to a US address, so you will need a contact, friend or mail forwarding company to assist you.
  13. I was wondering what fw most people here prefer to run. I'm on 3.5.1 on app iOS and 1.1.7 on the Minipro. Kinda happy with it, was hoping it would run a bit faster than 18kmh. I got it to 18,5kmh want to get 20kmh which I think would be the ideal maximum speed on the Minipro. I downgraded mine from 3.8.2 iOS and 1.2.8 Minipro to 3.5.1 iOS and 1.1.7 Minipro thanks to Alexander's way, just drove 1.2.8 for 2km. It was a bit slower uphill and it kept on beeping all the time. I've tried 3.8.2 iOS and 1.4.0 Minipro, not so much beeping, but not as fast as 1.1.7. I just want some other opinions on what would be the best combo.
  14. Hi, Has anyone tried the Hybrid Tires for the MiniPro sold by ninebot/MoreForMini in the US? Looking for comments on using this tire as a general replacement for the stock tire. How does it compare on Asphalt, concrete, gravel, dirt? I've heard the Off-Road tire was OK on some terrain, but also makes the one issue with the two wheel devices of the two tires meeting different resistance (due to terrain or obstacles) more serious. Thanks!
  15. Get them while they are hot. Segway miniPRO Smart Self Balancing Personal Transporter with Mobile App Control http://amazon.com/gp/product/B019Z6HS86/
  16. I recently got a Segway MiniPro, and the wife and I love it, but the knee bar is a tad high for my tastes at the lowest setting. Additionally, my kids had a Swagtron hoverboard, but despite meeting the prerequisite minimum weigh requirements, that thing vibrates like hell because they are a bit too light for it. If I have my older daughter where a backpack with about 15 pounds worth of books in it, she can ride it just fine and enjoys it (and she's 20 lbs over the minimum weight requirement). They love these sort of devices, but the Segway MiniPro seems so much more stable and safe than the hoverboards, and I tested and my kids are able to make it go forward and backwards perfectly despite being under the minimum weight. If the knee bar was shorter, they'd be able to use it perfectly. Does there exist a shorter knee bar for it, either third party or official? If not, has anyone come up with any mods of this nature? I don't really understand why Segway/Ninebot are so against kids riding their products when there are far more dangerous things out there kids are riding (hoverboards, skateboards, roller skates, etc.) Thanks!
  17. In the MiniPro pamphlet these are described as "decorative blades". Where do they go?
  18. Purchase my MiniPro on Black Friday From Amazon, had it on the following Monday. Completed the tutorial up until the 10m ride part indoors a couple of days later. Today I took it outside, it made me repeat the tutorial from the beginning, but it was quick enough except a pain to have to be holding the iPhone. I later turned off the Auto-Lock which is what I should have done earlier. It was cold to have to have my bare ands to manipulate the phone, The good news is no Spills!! did one ride of 2.x km around a little turnabout for a small subdivision, but road there along a short gravel road and there was an incline and it all went smooth. Took it out again for a longer right I drove it on the side of the road for 1km or so to a larger parking lot for more practice. Added another 5.x km to the distance for a total of 7.7km. I'm pretty happy with it the MiniPro for my first real ride. Everything was very easy and even the uneven gravel road and some grass at one point was quite easy to navigate although it's surprising how much did roads can tilt. The only thing that I found difficult was transitioning from going reverse to forward, the bot just want to keep going reverse. Strange as going forward was easy, stopping was easy, starting reverse was easy, but once going reverse stopping or changing to forward was difficult. Maybe by feet are tougher back on the pads? I don't know, but that is the one thing I need to practice. Of course spinning around is easy that one can just to that and forward which is certainly preferred. Go reverse slow for a few feet is fine, but just once it get really going I had trouble. Glad I spotted the deal, but now I've spend days looking at EUC videos. The MiniPro might be Gateway-Tech (drug) to an EUC. Great to find this Forum with people from so many different regions. Stay on the upside!
  19. Hello, If you interested in Ninebot, Inmotion, Chic, I-walk, Mini Pro, hover-boards etc contact us. Stock in EU in Warsaw warehouse We have best prices in EU!!!!
  20. Got some scissor skills practice to provide extra safety to my miniPro's: All it takes is 10 min plus some 3M reflective tape. Red tape on red spokes and grey/white on grey one.
  21. Does anybody know if there is a handlebar (hand) steering for the Ninebot Mini Pro , Banggood is selling for the mini but not for the pro , does anybody know how get a similiar for the Mini pro, i heard it works very well for the basic mini version http://www.banggood.com/Original-Xiaomi-Ninebot-Stand-up-Electric-Scooter-Trolley-Handbar-with-Cell-Phone-Holder-p-1050361.html
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