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  1. 34 points
    Hello everybody, have fun! It was a lot of fun for me to do it, and a good motivation to heal my broken arm during this summer. Thanks to all the people who organize this contest. Hirsute
  2. 33 points
    The story of how I and two fellow wheel riders became lost in the mountains and lived to ride another day. As I begin this, it must be said that I'm the one with poor judgement in this story. Well intentioned, but... The Cogswell Dam, as I've previously written about, is a gorgeous area to ride an EUC. It's basically a canyon ride on the northern side of a mountain ridge. I've ridden it twice before. Throughout this region are countless trails, large and small. One of the most well known is a four wheel drive capable trail called the Rincon Shortcut OHV Trail. It stretches along the southern side of the ridge that is shared with the Cogswell Dam. The Rincon trail-head starts about an 1/8 mile south of the Cogswell Dam trail-head. Up in the mountains there is a connection between the two, and that's what I've been itching to try. Complete the approximately 30 mile loop that joins the two trails. So I coordinated a group ride for Saturday morning, and my long time riding buddy @jrkline was the first to commit to the ride and not too long afterwards @Ando Melkonyan eagerly committed to the adventure (he had his newly acquired ACM). We were to leave by 9:30am, traversing the southern (Rincon) route first, taking advantage of the coolness of the morning air. Eventually we would meet up with the Cogswell Dam trail high up in the mountains and return by way of the shaded northern trail to avoid the extreme heat of the day. Oh, and today was the peak of a mini heat wave in Southern California, where the temperature was predicted to be in the low 90's. Maybe we should have brought more water. Hmmm. @abinder3 joined us at the very beginning. He didn't have time for the entire route (regardless of his reasons that was a good decision in hindsight) and therefore was just going to ride to the dam and back, about a 20 mile roundtrip. But it was nice that we could all meet at the beginning and share a few stories before we went our separate ways. In the picture above, from left to right: @abinder3 (Allen), @Ando Melkonyan, @jrkline (Jeff), and myself. Don't we look happy - if only we knew what was forthcoming I had my Monster which I had previously ridden here twice before. Jeff had the FrankenACM - I know, I know, his world famous 2040wh ACM. As would be demonstrated throughout the day, his ACM never fails. It may not be pretty but it's a faithful workhorse. And Ando brought his 3 week old ACM with a 2-1/2" tire that he managed to fit on the wheel. He had to cut away parts of the shell to make it fit, but he turned it into a really nice trail machine. We finally began our journal and after a few hundred feet wished Allen well as he exited for his trail head. We continued on the two lane highway until we came upon the locked trail gate, representing the entrance to our grand adventure. After bypassing the gate we began our journey in earnest. On a previous outing to Cogswell Dam I had ridden this part of the trail for a mile or so and was hoping the whole trail would be as I remembered. And for the most part it was, perhaps a little steeper in sections. But remember that this is a four wheel drive trail so certainly any path that a truck can take we can tackle easily on our EUCs. In this video you can see me struggling a bit as the ACMs zoom past me After a few miles of steady uphill climbing I was beginning to think that I should have taken my ACM too instead of the Monster. I've ridden my Monster a lot in the mountains now, but never for extended uphill pushes. We were on a trail that was to continuously climb for over 3500 feet. And this wasn't a paved road. It was gravel and sand mixed with large rocks and various ruts. So there was a lot of maneuvering involved, slips, slides, near stalls, and periodical jump-stops for the wheels. Although I have experience with the Monster and know that it's capable of ascending any hill that the ACM is, it does so extremely slowly and with much effort. As Jeff and Ando zoomed up the trail sections with hardly any physical effort, I was in a near constant crouch and heavy lean. Plus all of the effort required to steer the 70 pound Monster ... But I was hanging in there despite the ridicule coming from my fellow riders ;-) Fairly early on we had our first crash. I must say, anybody who wants to keep their wheel pristine should never do off-road trail riding. It's a messy business. My Monster requires a wide berth and although I always have my trusty helmet mirror, I have some rather large blind spots. Jeff was apparently unaware of these facts. As he was overtaking me on my left I was slowing sliding left. Our pedals locked and in the next moment we were both sprawled on the ground. Jeff's bloodied forearm and my bruised ego provided good entertainment for Ando :-) Here's a couple pictures of the aftermath: We continued the long climb, but I was getting tired. At one point Ando offered me his ACM while he pushed forward with the Monster. And then he proceeded to demonstrate a new technique (to me) for getting the Monster up hills fast. Jeff and I had great fun watching this and I think Ando was having fun to. It looked like he was riding a horse, but indeed it really moved fast. When I started riding the Monster again I used this technique and it really helped. But it was still hard on the body because of the lean, and steering was proving difficult. Eventually I discovered that if I was in a squatting position and squeezing the wheel between my knees, AND using my knees to force the wheel forward, the Monster really moved. This was exhausting however. We were still having a good time, enjoying each others crashes and Ando's music Somewhere near two hours we finally arrived near the peak. I was beat. Now we needed to find the trailhead that led back down to the Cogswell Dam. We came across a lone mountain bike rider that pointed us in the general direction that we needed to take to begin the descent to Cogswell Dam. In the following thumbnail you can see the Dam far below us. Here is where I made the fateful mistake of picking the wrong trail. It went down and looked to be in the general direction, so let's go for it. I really should have spent as long as I needed to be sure, but in the back of my mind I figured if it was wrong we'd probably realize it fairly soon and just backtrack. What I didn't take into consideration was my failing body :-( As we proceeded down this trail it slowly got sketchier and sketchier. First there were small dead falls (trees that fall across a trail) and then bigger and bigger ones where it took minutes to carry and or drag the wheel across. I was getting weaker. I had no more food and none of us had any more water. Remember that I said it was going to be in the 90's today. I felt like I was beginning to get symptoms of dehydration - shaky legs and arms and extreme fatigue. I could only ride 20 feet before I would loose control and had to stop and rest for a few minutes. By this time I had a few more rather severe falls which further hampered my ability to ride the wheel. Besides my difficulties, it had become clear that we were somewhat lost. This was certainly not the trail to the Cogswell Dam. I could simply not go further. At this point I was with Jeff. Ando had explored further along the trail and when he returned he said that he found water (we could hear a stream in the distance below). You don't know how excited I was to hear this. I felt that maybe if I got some water I may recover enough to continue at some level. Jeff took my empty water bottle and disappeared down the trail to return with water. I was feeling a bit mentally refreshed. While Jeff was away Ando and I tried to figure out exactly where we were. I had offline Google maps in my phone and a Garmin 60CS handheld navigator. BTW, GPS reception was not great within these mountains. But we eventually determined our exact location. Miles from the trail that we should have taken. I had arrived at a difficult decision. Like the sailboat captain in the middle of the ocean that grapples with the decision to press the emergency beacon, knowing that when he does so he will be rescued but his boat will be left behind, gone forever. But I knew that I could not continue back uphill to retrace our steps by a few miles and then down another 15 miles. Impossible. So I told Ando to leave me and get back to the area where we made the bad turn. In that area there was a line of site to the greater Los Angeles area and there was cell phone coverage. "Tell them that a person was suffering from exhaustion and dehydration. Call 911". Now by this point at least 15 minutes had passed and Jeff probably should have returned within 10 minutes since Ando knew the water was only 5 minutes away by wheel. But we continued to wait. While doing so Ando took my Monster and rode/carried it up the trail past a few of the sever dead-falls. And then walked back. Amazing, and as you'll learn in a bit, very important that he did so. Still no Jeff. Instead of sending Ando to look for Jeff I suggested that he go the other way, and I'll wait for him. So Ando disappeared with his ACM and I was alone in the middle of what felt like nowhere. I think it was about 3pm at this point. I lay on the ground and was anticipating a bottle of water with great joy. Maybe another fifteen minutes went by. Nothing. Then I started thinking, "Maybe something happened to Jeff. Was there an accident. Did his ACM break". I slowly started walking down the trail. 20 steps and then lay on the ground to recover. 20 steps, lay on the ground. I did this for maybe 15 minutes but realized that if he was hurt or the wheel was broken I was in no condition to help. And I had told Ando that if possible I would try and walk back to the trail junction at the top of the mountain. So I abandoned Jeff and ever so slowly started walking up hill. 20 steps, lay on the ground, ad nausea-um. I still had hopes that Jeff would return with water. I would have given away my Monster for water at that point. It really was horrible. At this incredibly slow pace I managed to get past the large dead-falls. I never would have been able to get my Monster past these obstacles in my condition. Eventually I found my Monster and could not believe how far Ando had taken it for me. I then proceeded to push it and myself up the trail, in spurts of low speed energy. A trolley handle may have helped, but just the effort of pushing the Monster and walking was too much. After maybe an hour I decided to abandon the Monster, knowing that I would never see it again. I wasn't worried about someone finding and taking it. First, nobody sane travels this impassible trail, and if someone did they wouldn't know what it was, and at 70 pounds I don't think they would try and carry it out. No, I would never see it again because I would never be able to get in here to recover it. That would entail hiking 15 - 20 miles which is a long hike on flat ground. I just didn't see myself being able to do that. I marked the location where I did leave it, in my Garmin 60CS thinking that I would post to Facebook and the Forum with the coordinates and anybody who thinks they could retrieve it could keep it. No bad feelings on my part. Anyway, it was load off my mind when I fully committed to never seeing it again. Let that be a strong reminder to what not to do in the future. I continued the painfully slow march. I was worried for my health because I know dehydration can be bad. But I tried not to exhaust myself too much. Walk for a few minutes and then lay down. Walk, lay down. Minutes turned to hours. I was thinking maybe if I eventually got to that magic "cell phone coverage" area that I could call 911 in case Ando wasn't able to. It's amazing what goes through your mind when you can't communicated with people who are trying to help you.What happened to Jeff? Did Ando make it out yet? Knowing where we had last all been together I was thinking positive and assuming that Jeff decided to explore that path beyond the river and went so far that he decided not to return with water. I knew that particular trail wound its way back up to the top of another mountain range to the 2 freeway which then led to civilization. So if he got out he would be able to call. But I had my doubts that we would have enough remaining power to climb another couple thousand feet and maybe 20 miles. I kept think that if I get rescued I'm going to have to tell them about Jeff so that they can search for him next. After maybe 3 hours I came across these maintenance trucks and construction equipment that we had passed on the way down. I opened every truck and door I could get into and FOUND WATER. Two old water bottles with maybe a 1/3 full of water each was an amazing find. First I sniffed it to be sure that they weren't storing fuel and then guzzled them down. Water had never tasted to good. Although it did not help with the exhaustion in my legs, it did help with the thirst and made me feel like I actually wasn't going to collapse somewhere up here in the mountains. I continued to walk, imagining what might be happening with Ando and Jeff. And then of course I was worrying about my wife because in the absolutely worst case I probably should have been home by now. But there was nothing I could do. She did know the general trails that we were taking (at least I got one thing right), but it would probably be very dark before she pulled the trigger and called 911. So I was still prepared for a very much longer day and night. Dusk was approaching when I started to hear a helicopter somewhere in the distance. That was the first mechanical sound I had heard for hours. I thought I heard a plane too. I did see the helicopter at one point but it was miles in the distance. Amazingly I had made it back to trail junction where we made the bad turn. And then I heard and saw a large search and rescue type helicopter hovering over me, but very high. I was in an area where there were power line towers (thus the maintenance equipment found earlier) plus I'm sure they generally stay far above the trees. I waived both my hands for a little bit and then it moved off to the distance a bit and hovered again. Then it left. "Well, that's it. I've been found and now help will be on the way". That was a huge psychological lift for me. So I continued to walk, and walk, and walk. It was now totally dark, after 8pm. Fortunately I had small pen flashlight so I could see the path in front of me. No longer fearing collapse from dehydration I could start contemplating coming across bears or mountain lions, both of which live in these mountains. What joy! I then spotted a brief flash of light followed shortly by a truck rounding the corner ahead. You can imagine what I thought at that sight. It eventually slowed to a stop beside me and I was asked my name (I guess they didn't want to pick up the wrong guy) and let me in the truck. There were four uniformed men in there, all volunteers for the Sierra Mountain Search and Rescue. They gave me all the water I wanted and bagged peanuts. Life was good. Shortly after I got in the crowded vehicle I asked if they happened to know about any other ..., and before I could complete the sentence they told me that all three people have now been accounted for. So Jeff was alive ;-) I assumed Ando was good because otherwise I probably wouldn't be sitting in the truck at the top of the mountain. Now get this, they then asked me, "do you want to go get your 'bike'?" Are you kidding me? I tried to suggest that I didn't want to put them through the trouble (I really didn't), but they insisted. They said that they were already up there so why not. It probably took another half an hour and a locked gate to get within a few hundred feet of where I left it. The last bit had to be walked since the trail conditions were too severe for the truck. So I actually got my Monster back. It felt like I just received a new wheel because in my mind I given it up for lost. As we drove down the mountain for the next 1-1/2 hours I learned that Jeff had been recovered on the 2 freeway, and Ando was the one that called it in. Eventually I met up with Jeff as we were brought together at the base of the mountain to be driven back to our vehicles (20 miles away). There Jeff told me how he amazing made it back up to the highway on the other side of the mountain range and then down towards town, almost on a zero battery charge. His 2040wh ACM truly has been an amazing wheel. I also learned from the rescuers that the helicopter had not seen me! Amazing. The guys said that in the future you should lay on the ground and move, otherwise all they see from above is a head, and that's hard to distinguise from everything else. So they found me based on what Ando was able to tell them. You can read some of what Jeff encountered here: And then when I finally got home around midnight (having left in the morning at 8am) I eventually read about Ando's experience which was amazing in itself. His ACM has also proven to be an amazing wheel. Essentially going 10 miles down mountain trails with almost no battery power remaining. You can read is account here: And here is the dam (it was not Cogswell after all) that Ando got to: And the 911 help that arrived after he made the call So there you have it. I think none of us will forget this ride. It's been four days and I'm still having difficulty riding, which really surprised me. When yesterday I hopped on my KS14C for a short utilitarian trip I almost crashed as the wheel was very wobbly. I had a hard time turning. It was then that I realized that my legs were still weak and uncoordinated. Amazing. Although I declared that I wouldn't do this again, time heals all wounds ;-) I know Jeff is up to doing it again, and maybe Ando will be to. We will be better prepared next time. More water, food, maps, only ACM's or the like, and a bigger breakfast. Oh, and Jeff says he'll bring his ham radio (which hopefully will not be needed). I hope you enjoyed my little adventure story
  3. 31 points
    There is a similar topic on the Russian EUC forum, and it is gaining popularity due to the frequent contributions of outstanding EUC artist - @Дед62. I got his permission to re-post his work here in the hope that it may inspire other artists and will extend the gallery of our favorite gadget. I believe you will enjoy this creative work. Feel free to post in this topic any other image which you consider to be relevant to "EUC art" Happy EUC Sailor Tricks With Violin Taxi Winter Evening With The Wheel Ambulance Delivery Battle of Kulikovo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kulikovo) Parade Beach Towing Services Man and His Friend Icarus Bogatyrs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Vasnetsov) comments from left to right: - ... what a mess... - ... and where is your power plug, Popovitch? ... - ... mongols fricking stole it again... Medieval Tournament London 1920 The Moving Guy Burlaks (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barge_Haulers_on_the_Volga) all praises go to @Дед62
  4. 31 points
    EDIT: As promised I added two more tires to the comparison – 5. Chao Yang H-5167 and 6. CST E-Bike PRO. You can find the description, video, scores and final conclusion below. As some of you may know from my first post in Inmotion thread, I have recently bought my first wheel - Inmotion V5F+. After learning how to ride the wheel, I started using it for daily commute to work and going around the city. I am absolutely thrilled by the wheel, but after few hundred kilometers and some strange and unexpected behaviour I started to doubt the tire that came with it. Therefore I bought 3 other 14 inch tires and made this little comparison that I would like to share with all that might be interested and could find it useful: DESCRIPTION: 1. Hota Tyre Slick, soft rubber tire, with very simple and shallow tread. This was the tire that came with my wheel and quite soon after learning to ride I became suspicious that this might not be very good tire. It could be a good tire but only for asphalt without any surface imperfections. Pros: very manoeuvrable and has a really good grip on good asphalt surface. Not bumpy when jumping down from reasonable heights. Low roll resistance. Cons: it REALY (!) likes to misbehave when you have any vertical lines or deformations along your route, you are immediately “railed”. This might be because when it warms up it gets “mushy” and the slick surface probably seeps into the deformations on the road. Uncomfortable when bumping into curbs. Before I tried other tires I thought that I maybe don't know how to handle the curbs because my knees sometimes hurt after longer rides. Now I know that is not the case because I never experienced this with other tires. For some reason this tire was also unable to hold the pressure above 40psi. I would pump it to 45psi and after few kilometers it would be back to 40. I used the same inner tube on all tires I tested. 2. CST Rhino King This is new model from CST with “puncture protection” and the most expensive electric bike tire I could find on Alibaba/Aliexpress/Taobao, so I thought it might be good. It is by far the most hard / rigid tire of the whole bunch, with relatively complex and very pronounced tread. This would be a very good tire if not for one fatal flaw. Pros: Stable during straight riding, good grip both on asphalt and gravel, quite comfortable when bumping into curbs, has puncture protection. Cons: Well this tire has one fatal combination for the EUC – it is very hard and it has such a steep fall-off on the tread that it is almost unreasonably difficult to control during leaning left or right. When you ride straight with only small left or right course changes it is perfect, but when you need to make any little bit more aggressive turn or lean into one side, you really have to work to keep the wheel from falling down :-( 3. Schwalbe Big Apple So called “balloon” tire, from well known Schwalbe brand. Simple and shallow but dense tread on soft and almost slick rubber surface. This tire has different construction from the other tires, with soft, paper thin side walls from different material (think its kevlar reinforced?) and is very deformable when not inflated. Many sources say that it has to be inflated to minimum of 55psi when used on EUC or otherwise you risk damage to the side walls, so I tested it both on 45psi (like other tires) and on 55psi. This is the only tire with slightly lower width – 14x2.0 (others are 14x2.125) Pros: Best tire for bumping into curbs and amortising any kind of bumps, especially when inflated to 45psi, but even on 55psi it’s still the best in this regard. Very good grip on asphalt. Relatively good directional stability, especially considering the shallow tread and soft surface. Low rolling resistance. Cons: Bit bumpy when jumping down from curbs, not the best grip on gravel. There is also potential damage to side walls (as reported by dmethwin on Firewheel thread). I travelled 80km on this tire and even after this low mileage there was some black dusty “residue” coming off the side walls when I dismounted the tire from the wheel. Not certain how this would influence safety in the long run. 4. Chao Yang H-5146 Tire from harder rubber, but not like CST Rhino King, about half as hard. Pronounced and complex tread. Pros: Most stable tire of all tested on any surface, it just goes where you want it to go without any unexpected surprises. Inmotion V5F+ is a very agile small wheel, which sometimes represented a challenge for relatively inexperienced driver like me (total of 800km in 45 days) when faced with nasty road anomalies , but this tire gives it another dimension in stability without compromising manoeuvrability! Very good directional stability and handling of vertical anomalies on the asphalt surfaces. Good grip both on asphalt and gravel. Cons: Could be better when bumping into curbs, but this is not a real con, only wishful thinking after being spoiled by bump amortisation performance of the Schwalbe Big Apple, which is the only tire out of the tested ones that is better in this regard. This tire has quite pronounced grip and therefore two slick tires have a little bit lower rolling resistance. 5. Chao Yang H-5167 Medium soft tire with added puncture protection layer. Very complex and relatively pronounced tread. Pros: This tire forced me to rethink the score table. I expected something quite similar to Chao Yang H-5146 just with added puncture protection, and although these two tires share many good characteristics, this is in some aspects entirely different beast. In one word – SPEED – this thing rolls like crazy, I was actually convinced that my V5F+ somehow restored to the lower speed limit after the tire change because I have never before reached 25km/h speed limit and tiltback so easily. And the best thing is that it manages to maintain almost all of that wonderful control and stability that H-5146 exhibits. Great handling of anomalies on the road, good impact absorption when bumping into curbs, not bumpy while jumping… and on top all of that it has additional puncture protection layer. Cons: Slightly less (5-10%) controllable than H-5146, probably due to crazy good rolling resistance 6. CST E-Bike Pro If I am not mistaken, this is the tire that usually comes with Kingsong and Gotway wheels (although I can't say how it behaves in sizes other than 14 inch !). Medium soft rubber, pronounced tread. I just had to test at least one more CST tire to have something from another serious manufacturer as a reference to compare to the two Chao-Yang’s. This tire is made of different rubber compound, it’s not super soft but it sticks like crazy, reminds me of the winter car tires. It is also the only one of the tested tires that screeches on the glossy surfaces like marble tiles and those surfaces in shopping mall garages. Pros: Good rolling resistance, great grip on asphalt and good on gravel, fabulous handling of curbs and jumps (very close to Schwalbe Big Abble, and that is a balloon tire -could be that rubber compound?) Cons: Slightly sharper fall-off from the center of the tread to the sides – not nearly as unusable like on the CST Rhino King, but you can still feel it, especially when compared to the Chao-Yang’s. This makes it bit less controllable and sometimes “jerky”. Although it has good grip on the gravel, you have to work more due to that fall-off to keep it under control when wheel bumps around on the uneven surface. I am probably just spoiled by Chao-Yangs by now… VISUAL COMPARISON: SCORE: Tire brand / type Hota Tyre CST Rhino King Schwalbe Big Apple Chao Yang H-5146 Chao Yang H-5167 CST E-Bike Pro Size 14x2.125 14x2.125 14x2.00 14x2.125 14x2.125 14x2.125 Ride Comfort 8 8 10 10 10 10 Control 10 2 9 10 9 7 Grip Asphalt 10 8 8 10 10 10 Grip Gravel 4 8 6 8 8 8 Impact absorption 5 8 10 9 9 10 Directional stability 2 10 8 10 10 10 Temperature stability 4 10 10 10 10 10 Rolling resistance 9 8 10 8 10 9 TOTAL: 52 62 71 75 76 74 I am not expert on tires and all of the above are only my personal impressions and conclusions after using these tires on my EUC. All of the tires are tested on the same Inmotion V5F+ and with the same inner tube (Tube brand is Chao Yang). I tried each of the tires for at least 80km. CONCLUSION: Chao-Yang H-5167 is the tire that stays on my wheel. It’s simply best overall and checks practically all important “boxes”. H-5146 would be best beginners tire, it’s so controllable, relaxed and forgiving. Both CST tires have great rubber compound, but the tread has this pronounced center section and then somewhat steep fall-off, which results in less smooth experience and requires more work to control the wheel.
  5. 30 points
    Hi Everyone, here is my submission for the contest. My Dad has even let me have my own profile to enter the movie Hope you like it.
  6. 28 points
    Today I received my Monster (I was expecting it next Monday). Shipped from Speedyfeet on Sunday to California. Can't beat those delivery times. So you can see me with my Monster and 1300wh ACM that I got 3 days ago. Two new wheels within a few days - I'm not sure what to do Before I continue with my Monster ride observations I feel that I need to make this statement: I hereby formally bow down to the Gotway Gods Ian (Speedyfeet) had pre-charged the Monster so when I took it out of the box (and gave myself a small hernia in the process) I had an 80% charge. That meant only one thing - an immediate test ride. I used my existing old Gotway app to configure it: 1st & 2nd alarms off and tilt-back off. It's nice that I've been able to use my original Gotway app to configure all of these wheels. And the Wheellog app (and Pebble watch connection) work perfectly with these new wheels. When I climbed aboard (an apt description) and started riding I thought to myself, "what have I gotten myself into"? This thing is a beast and when you first start, it feels totally unwieldy. Turning as you do with a normal wheel does nothing - it keeps going straight. Turning the Monster is all about weigh shifting and hips to shoulders. I will say that once you get use to this way of turning it is a piece of cake. I can literally turn with the same agility as my ACM, but the body movements are very different. The problem can be that as you're riding and suddenly need to turn you apply your normal turning techniques and the Monster just ignores you So after a 25 mile ride today my knees and lower legs are hurting because I kept falling back into my old ways. Clearly this will improve. But I did ride 25 miles today. After about an hour everything was really clicking and it no longer felt unwieldy. I'm probably going to run out of superlatives trying to describe my riding today. I rode a river trail that I enjoy, a park with lots of dirt/sand trails, and sidewalks in town. The Monster eats anything in its way. I'm serious. I rode over bumps, thick mud, sand, whatever. It just takes it and doesn't toss you around. Deep ruts in the trails? - the Monster laughed at them. Hitting some of them in my ACM would have thrown me from the wheel. I like to carve when I ride and that was very enjoyable with the Monster. Weaving in and out of obstacles on the sidewalks was easy. I climbed a couple of very steep inclines and there was no problem. Feels like my MSuper - you have to really lean into it and have faith that it's not going to dump you. My ACM on the other hand climbs inclines much easier. Acceleration and braking feels like the MSuper, but a tad more sluggish. Today I had one hard brake that I had to apply to avoid missing my intended turn. I managed the brake and turn successfully but it was a near miss. I think it's best to plan your brakes well ahead of time with this wheel I must say that I think the Monster has the potential to be a dangerous wheel . Why? Speed. Prior to the Monster I felt that I had the fastest wheels available (ACM and MSuper). I typically ride my ACM between 17 and 20 mph, sometimes going up to 22 for short periods. Feels very fast. The Monster? It laughs at 20. Seriously! For half my ride today I would catch myself looking at my watch (Pebble) to see that I was going 22mph! For awhile I was going 25mph and here's the thing; it didn't feel dangerously fast. 25! I was feeling very comfortable going 22mph whereas on the ACM it feels like you're pushing it. The Monster is so stable and has so much reserve power that it's a pure joy to ride fast. I was riding 20mph on some trails! I never heard the 3rd alarm today. So I have to say if you love going fast and eating up any road or trail in your way you will love the Monster. I think it's the most amazing wheel ever produced. I'm very serious. No, I wouldn't recommend it as your only wheel because lets face it, it's a beast. But in the context of trail & street riding it's amazingly fun. I can't wait to take it up into the mountains this weekend. I'll be posting a video review and ride video sometime in the next week.
  7. 27 points
    Hello All, It's been awhile since i've been on here but thought why not share my thoughts on this wheel, I was lucky to get. It's a prototype that was sent to me by Gotway America to keep. I decided to share my experiences with everyone. www.Gotwayamerica.com I also want to thank @houseofjob for helping me put this video together! I cant give an review since I just got it and want to spend time with it. Here are some specs. Motor - 1900watt Battery - (this model) 1020wh Built in Trolley - yes Light Belt - yes (reminds me of the ninebot days) Weight - 42.8 lbs Brighter head light compared to previous models. 4 pin charger - same as the Msuper V3s+ 84v Max speed so far - 30mph! Built in dual fan- silent could barely hear it. I feel like this wheel have some type of shock absorption.. Not sure how to describe it but it goes over cracks and bumps with easy. Very comfortable to ride although when trying to ride on 1 leg i'm experiencing a slight pain on my shin. Not sure if its something I have to get use to or is it because of the thin padding that was placed there. I created a video that should help with how it looks and test rides. Hope you guys like it. Also motherboard is now placed on the top of the wheel instead of the usual side next to the batterie. Cables seems to look well connected here are some pics. Again i hope this helps.
  8. 27 points
    It's with sad news that I'm here to say that my brand new (now scratched to hell) MSuper V3s+ is afflicted with the now infamous Gotway oscillation syndrome. I had just picked it up personally from @Jason McNeil a couple of days ago while he was out in California inspecting his latest delivery from Gotway. He's a great guy to hang with btw, and we (Jason, myself, and @Sven) had a fun little ride in some local hills. Andy, you need to post that video you made! Of course I tested mine a day ago by riding (slowly - which is key to remember) over various bumps, curbs, etc. No problems. Yeah! But this morning was my first opportunity to take it for a serious ride. I setup my camera and filmed a short mini-review introduction to my new MSuper (God I wanted to love this wheel) and then took it out on the road. As you'll see in the video below, about 3 minutes into the ride I'm on a sidewalk, probably not going faster than 15mph. I travel across a street and up on to the sidewalk, and that transition was enough to cause it to instantly oscillate and throw me off the wheel. My take away is that the wheel has to be traveling at a fairly good clip for this to happen. But as you can see, I was not exactly traveling at an extreme speed. Jason is screwed with his recent shipment, and I must say anyone who has received a unit within the last month or so is risking their skin if riding the wheel faster than 10mph. Even though I say in the video that I'm probably going to ride it, I'm not. As I rode home I couldn't make myself go faster than 10mph for fear of the oscillation. There is zero warning. There's absolutely no fun riding a wheel under those conditions. I have no clue how Gotway is going to prove any recent wheel delivery is without the problem. They clearly lied to Jason regarding his shipment, and he must be one of their best dealers. When I get a new control board (I assume), how will I know Gotway did anything. Who wants to gear up and ride 15 - 20 mph into a bump to test it? I'm sure I'll be more open to the idea after a few days, but not now. My left wrist and hand is getting worse as I type this Well guys, I only have my Monster and KS14C to ride now, and summer months are upon us. What a bummer. Enjoy the video The thumbnail is 1 second before the crash - ouch.
  9. 26 points
    A little story some of you may find interesting... Yesterday I was taking a mid-afternoon ride along the beach on my KS14C. Beautiful Southern California day. As I was approaching the Hermosa Beach Pier I spotted two wheelers in the distance! Amazing. In the year that I've been involved with EUC's I've never come across a fellow rider, let alone two. As I approached from behind (they were traveling at a leisurely pace) I saw that that they were a young couple, in their early 20's I would say. He was riding an MCM and she was on a two wheeled Inmotion wheel. I smiled and waved as I rode past them. Needless to say they were really surprised. We stopped and chatted for a nice long time. The MCM was bought from Dion (@myfunwheel) and the Inmotion from @Jason McNeil (EWheels). All within the last couple of months. They had no knowledge of the forum and our local group rides that I organize. I think that I may have found a couple of new recruits. Hopefully they will join the forum. Now Brian, he was a little frustrated with his wheel because it would always tilt-back, and was about as fast as the Inmotion (i.e., not very fast). I took it for a little spin and sure enough, tilt-back must have been set to 10mph or less. I whipped out my phone and reconfigured his wheel (with his permission of course). Immediately he saw a huge change in his wheel. It felt like he just received an updated EUC. He looked very happy as he started zooming around (I turned tilt-back off). We rode together for a bit more before we went our separate ways. I'm hoping to see them during our meetup with @The Fat Unicyclist In hindsight I thought it must have been very unique from their perspective to have some guy pass them by on another wheel, stop, and reconfigure their wheel to make it perform much better, and then zoom away. I hope to have more encounters like this in the upcoming years
  10. 26 points
    It had to happen eventually. This morning I met Andy (@Sven) at Chino Hills State Park for an exploratory ride. Neither of us had ridden this area before. Andy had his Monster and I was riding my ACM today (it can climb any hill). The ride started nicely enough but we eventually started on the dirt and gravel trails. During on epically long very steep section Andy's Monster overheated with a resulting tilt-back, and within 5 seconds my ACM self-destructed. It was a long hike out In this video (thanks Andy for all the additional video footage) you can see the ride and where I crash and burn as the ACM gives out on me. Then, back in my workshop I open the ACM and show the carnage inside (massive amounts of melting connector housings and wires. Oh, and the control board is toast. Seeing the melted wires first hand (and my riding weight is 170 pounds) tells me that I will never again (until they make design changes) ride any of my Gotway wheels for extended (>15 seconds) periods up very steep hills. It's clear that the insulation isn't up to the task. Mind you, I'm talking very steep hills, where you are crawling up. Enjoy the video
  11. 26 points
    I love my Msuper V3. But: when things get wet and dirty, it has this nasty habit to throw everything up my back the road has to offer. Uhhh, I don't like mud slinging (even though it seems to become increasingly popular in politics). So, here is my solution: a 3D printed mudguard! Pick it from the print bed, peel off the brim, smack it on your Msuper and you're set to go! If you have access to a 3D printer (pretty much any one will do), download the model file from here http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2083438, use up some 70 grams of ordinary PLA filament (< $2) and enjoy riding through Siberia in the fall. If not, google "3D Print Service" and find somebody, who prints it for you for less than $20. I put the file into public domain, so anybody can use it privat or commercially. I positively invite GotWay (happy New Year, @Linnea Lin Gotway & @Jane Mo! Does CNY come with New Year's resolutions, too?) and the nice distributors in this forum to use it. Give it your own branding if you like. And folks, please don't complain, if a distributor asks 50 bucks per piece - they have all those warranty obligations, can't exclude liability (like I do ) and still need to make a living... Here's my test ride today on Tempelhof airfield:
  12. 25 points
    @Jason McNeil has been out in California the last few days, re-flashing all the ACM's and MSuper's (40+ I think) before sending them back out to the customers. When I finally was able to get to his makeshift workshop with my MSuper, mine was the last one. It took about 10 minutes to open, remove the bluetooth module, plugin the Gotway firmware loader, and download the fixed code (which took maybe 5 seconds to download). This is an interesting aside. Gotway had originally told Jason that they had caught his shipment before it went out the door, and re-flashed all the boards. Fast-forward to now when Jason is re-flashing all of the wheels. The process involves taking a razor blade and slicing the silicon that is holding the Bluetooth module to the control board, so that the Bluetooth module can be removed. Jason discovered that about one third of his 40+ wheels had the silicon sliced. This means that Gotway fixed 1/3rd of Jason's wheels, shrugged, and decided to ship the rest without fixing. Who knows why. Maybe they had a deadline to meet and ran out of time, or the workers told management that everything was done so they could go home. Who knows, but it's rather amazing. I've ridden my fixed MSuper in the mountains above Los Angeles for about 45 miles between yesterday and today. Lots of fast, rough riding with bumps galore. No problems. My final test was to repeat the scenario that threw me off the wheel two weeks ago. Here's the video... Everyone who is receiving @Jason McNeil's wheels in the next week or so can rest assured that they have a solid wheel that can take abuse. I'm back to lovin my MSuper
  13. 24 points
    @Shoe73 @kmoon my video was not done by Inmotion, or for Inmotion. I did the video myself, like all my other videos, on my computer, with my camera, filmed by friends. If it looks like professionnal, it is because i spend hours to do it and to learn alone how to edit. There is the logo of Inmotion France because i work for them since this september and i have to put their logo on all my videos. If i do EUC with this level it's just because i train. If anyone trains 2h everyday in a little place, he will do the same. I've bought myself the music rights of my video because i wanted to. I've chosen to do the video on the very basic V5 450w 144wh to show that the important is not the wheel, but the Will and the training of the wheeler. And my goal is just to share this technique to see the EUC freestyle level growing in the world. I have began on august 2015 watching the video of Brian Thompson and Alexander Segmüller (thanks to them), and now i'm really happy when i see young people trying to do my tricks.
  14. 23 points
    Greetings Forum, I'd like to apologize for not keeping up here this month, it's been an especially busy period & I've been stretched somewhat thinly lately. I am delighted to announce @Joey Serrin will be joining eWheels. Joey has established a phenomenal reputation with his exceptional know-how, abilities & creative inventive mind that will help increase the capacity & reach of the business. Joey's mastery of the Electric Unicycle will ensure eWheels will also have unrivalled servicing & repair capabilities, as well as improved communication times for our Customers. Over the next month we will be offering several new accessory lines, such as custom pedals, improved padding, & handle kits for the King Song 18S & Gotway Monster, there are some other exciting projects in works which will be announced over the coming weeks.
  15. 23 points
    I am back from Las Vegas after attending the Consumer Electronics Show (CES) and here to report on EUCs as I did last year. Unfortunately the showings of EUCs has dramatically decreased from last year. Kingsong dropped out this year. Only EUC companies that were there were Segway (ninebot), Swagtron, and Jyro. Fastwheel and Airwheel were there too but they weren't even displaying any EUCs but instead focusing on skateboards and 2 wheel scooters. And I didn't see one EUC from any other cheap chinese brand. It's a telling sign on the poor general mass market state of EUCs. Even the companies that were displaying EUCs did not focus on them which I'll go into more here. Skip to the very bottom for videos. I bought my Msuper V3 and Kingsong 16A with me to Vegas. Shipped it by Fedex which the shipping wasn't too expensive. Would be much better to just take it on the plane.... but anyways on to the EUCs. Segway (Ninebot) So after ninebot bought Segway, they quickly realized that Segway has more branding power than Ninebot. Hence why officially Segway Inc. was listed for CES and not Ninebot. They were showing off the Ninebot One S1 and had a young kid ride it around in their booth. Unfortunately the old head honcho would not allow me to ride it at all even after signing their waiver to ride their products. He was basically an asshole to me about it and basically did not believe/trust me that I could ride an EUC. Even after he saw my gotway and kingsong, he argued back to me "Oh I see you already have wheels yourself, you don't need to try the ninebot"...... most arrogant stupid crap I've ever heard when the entire point of going to a show like this is to promote and sell your product. He also said they offer training on their large two wheels with handles Segway but not the S1. This furthers hammer home that there is no push to get EUCs on the mass market when the biggest company with an EUC actively shuts potential customers down test rides and instead offer rides and training for their non-EUC products. Segway just left a very bad taste in my mouth after that and now I'm more motivated to show off the capabilities of the EUC anytime I see a Segway rolling down the street now. Jyro So at the corner of the hall was this new American company called Jyro. They had a whole product line of scooters, one wheel skateboards, and EUCs. But all of their products are just Chinese OEM rebranding. And in the case of their EUCs, they were just the Inmotion V3 and Inmotion V5F. The main marketing guy even admitted that they were Inmotion products but that they adjusted the firmware of their wheels and that they have an app (which he wouldn't show me). Both wheels felt exactly like the regular Inmotion products though. Oh and no one at their booth could ride and show off the EUCs. One of their employees barely was able to ride the twin-wheel V3. Oh and their one wheel skateboard is basically a knock-off of One Wheel. SWAGTRON The people at Swagtron really have a lot of money and marketing going for them. They were one of the first ones to jump on the "hoverboard" craze by offering their "Swagway". With the implosion of "hoverboards" this past year, they really have doubled down on not only staying in the market but offer new revised "better" hoverboards and just new ridables which include their EUC, the "Swag Roller"..... which again is basically an InMotion V3. Although they did change it enough to where it does look a little nicer. They did get UL certification though which they proudly displayed at their booth. They also displayed their booth babes riding around on all their products (except for the EUC) and also had the hoverboard boy dancing group do their dancing routine on their hoverboards. Like Jyro, no one could ride the EUC. But after the dance group finished their routine, I showed those guys Damien Gaumet's EUC trick video and they were blown away by it and immediately started to try to ride the EUC. So maybe this year we might see a dance video featuring EUCs by them? Swagtron's EUC basically rode like the Inmotion V3. They said they were going to sell it for $400 but didn't have any plan to release it. Special Treats HONDA actually brought their self balancing seated "EUC" the uni-cub. I first saw this over 5 years ago and was excited to see it displayed and even more excited to actually ride it. it handled similar to an EUC but this one also balances left and right for you. Because of that, it is possible to strafe left and right but I was never able to fully strafe with my time on it. But it was still very easy to ride but with just a top speed of 4 mph. I almost overleaned the unit by testing its speed while another guy actually did bust his ass trying to do the same. Another fun treat was when I ran into RYNO Motor guys on the sidewalk outside of the Convention. First time I've even seen these in person although I didn't ride. It was very funny to see the size of the RYNO next to my Msuper V3 but knowing that the Msuper is much faster which a longer range. Even though it was cool to see the RYNO, it still represents an over-engineered product that will never see mass market adoption as a practical form of personal transport. SIDENOTE: As I was leaving from the airport, I saw a 3 wheel electric scooter about to board the plane. Talked to the guy on it and he was their to just transport it back home after CES. He wasn't using it for any disability. I asked him how he was allowed to bring it on the plane and he said that his brother took care of all of that. This product uses a lead-acid battery though so that may be the difference? And that was basically it as far as Unicycle-like devices at CES 2017. Got to meet Jason McNeil which is always a pleasure to meet someone else as passionate about EUCs as you. But hopefully that passion translates over the general public soon, if at all. There have been several threads on this forum already but we as an EUC community really need to do everything that we can to promote EUCs not just as a fun activity, but as an actual useful and practical personal transportation vehicle not for the future, but RIGHT NOW. That is why I ride not only on sidewalks but also on city streets with cars to show that I am no different than a regular cyclist on the road. It also helps encourage positive views in the minds of police and lawmakers to accept these EUCs on everyday life. I'll leave with two videos, one of EUCs at CES and one of us riding in and around Las Vegas.
  16. 22 points
    First time posting on here! made it just in time for the contest! i hope you like my video
  17. 21 points
    Inmotion V8: Beauty and the Beast! Tested with Mobile app version 6.1.0 (Android - released the day V8 arrived) and firmware upgraded to latest v1.0.901 (unfortunately in a haste to upgrade the firmware I’ve not made the note of the original firmware version with which the wheel was shipped) – update notes mentions only “Improved performance” so I guess no new feature(s) has been added since the wheels left manufacturer. (The new version 6.1.1 of app was released today later on after publishing this.) The bellow text is a collection of my notes over past week since I’ve received the wheel so it might be a bit “inconsistent” at some places or repeat some information as it was written bit by bit at different times. Apologies for not including any picture at the moment – I might try to add some later if it would help to clarify / demonstrate some points better. I’d be most likely editing this post a bit in following couple of days to correct mistakes and to add missing info. Look: The look is simply fantastic. With Side LED (Atmosphere) lights both on as well as off it’s a big head turner and you need to see it in person as no picture can really show that. Its unique design (partially shared with V5F) featuring a glossy black monolith is exquisite and I simply want to put it on display at my room as a piece of art at exhibition It’s without discussion currently one of the (if not THE) best looking wheels out there. You’ll definitely look cool riding it wearing anything from tuxedo over the office outfit to most casual wear. Design: It shows without any doubts that Inmotion have put a lot of effort in designing the wheel from the ground (well in this case from its older but smaller sibling V5F) rather than repurposing “unfit” e-bike parts as many other current EUC manufacturers. Both motor and controller board are in house designs and rest of the wheel shows that attention to details was put into each part used to build the wheel. There are some very minor nibbles here and there but nothing major affecting the overall quality or functionality of the device. Weight / Dimensions: With 13.6 Kg its 3.2 Kg lighter than KS-16 (840 Wh model at 16.8 Kg) making V8 very slim, light and nimble 16” wheel. If you’re coming from 14” wheel and are concerned about manoeuvrability you don’t need to worry at all. With proper tire pressure you’d not even notice you’re riding larger diameter wheel. If you need to carry the wheel regularly like up / down the stairs at apartment building or at office without elevators or to / from train while commuting you’ll appreciate the lower weight for sure. Although V8 is lighter and slimmer than KS-16 it’s also a bit taller (mainly due to its fixed protruding handle unlike KS-16 where the handle is “sank” a bit as it’s acting as dual purpose trolley handle as well) you might find it a bit too tall to be put comfortably under your legs leaning against the seat while in train, bus or metro. Also as it’s lacking any kind of soft cushions or padding at the top areas it’s more likely to slip or even get scratched while leaning against the seat or wall. Some users placed the supplied ankle pads (same like on V5F) on the top “bulges” but those are not really designed for such curved surface and look a bit odd placed there. I’m currently still debating what exactly to place or glue on those to make top more adhesive and protected against scratches. I’m currently in between a “car door” trimming (black or clear – similar to what @Rehab1 used on his V5F+) and the small silicon protective “legs” / blobs I’ve used on my KS-16 at front / rear and sides to protect its shell from hitting walls and sliding off the seat. But even without any protective layer the top shell bulges are comfortable as they curve inwards towards the top so there is no sharp edge pushing against your legs / calves. Ride modes / Comfort / Motor: There is only one ride mode – no mode configuration or selection is currently possible via app or some “secret” power up procedure or button pushing like on some other wheels. The ride mode is very hard / stiff – much stiffer than Player mode on KS-16 – which I personally prefer / like. If you own or have used the V5F before you’d need a zero “acclimatisation” coming to V8 but for other user it might be a bit of “cultural shock” due the firm mode, higher pedals and slim body. I’m still (literally) finding my footing after riding softer KS-16 for several months / thousand Km. Especially turning requires different approach so I’m still trying to perfect that after only one week / 180 KM on V8. The motor is very quiet – no “jet engine” sound of KS or GW wheels. You can still hear to motor doing it’s hard work but is a quiet friendly purr comparing to “angry” growls of KS / GW. With 800W “horse power” I’ve felt no difference to KS-16 during take-offs, breaking, acceleration or climbing inclines / hills. V8 takes me up the long “test hill” without sweat or any complains of overheating. I’m not sure if it’s mainly due to the really hard riding mode or also better motor management but I’ve not experienced any of the “dead zone” / almost shut-off feeling like sometimes still demonstrates on KS-16 even with latest FW (to clarify KS-16 will not shut off but feel a bit unstable for a brief moment during stand still take-off). Speed / Warnings: Maximum speed is 30 Km/h with default speed limit warning set to 25 Km/h. There is no need to ride a specific amount of Km or use any code to “unlock” the higher speed – simply slide the speed warning slider to desired value. However you’ll receive a warning from the app if you try to set the speed limit above 25 Km/h that you should do so only after riding some distance and having experience and you need to click accept or cancel. The V8’s tilt-back is “mild” but progressive at set speed limit accompanied by audible warning (this is an improvement to how tilt-back works on V5F). Despite that I recommend (as with any other wheel) to test tilt-back in a “controlled environment” by setting the speed limit lower and experience it while aware of it kicking in so you’ll be not startled later one when it happens during normal ride. One thing I’m missing though comparing to KS-16 and some other wheels is multiply speed warning. Personally I prefer an audible warning or even better multiply warning prior the actual tilt-back kicks in. On KS-16 I have warnings set to 27 – 28 – 29 - 30 and I’m yet to reach the actual tilt-back as I always slow down at 3 beeps latest. On V8 the tilt-back activates first with audible warning following which is highly unnatural for me at the moment and makes me feel a little bit uncomfortable so I hope @JumpMasterwill manage to include IM protocol in his WheelLog app so it will be possible to use the “advanced” speed warning via his app instead. Hopefully multiply speed warnings could be implemented in the V8’s firmware later on. Other warning option which I’m used to from Solowheel Xtreme is the pedal vibration which I’d like very much implemented by other wheels / manufacturers including IM. Pedals: Pedals are large (21 x 12 cm at widest points) and comfortable with very good grip (so good actually that I’ve had initially a bit of issue repositioning my feet during ride ) - exactly same as on V5F models. The oval look might be deceiving as the contact area with your feet is big enough even for riders with larger shoe sizes. In terms of comfort I don’t feel any difference to KS-16 pedals even though they’re placed higher (top outer edge of pedal is 15 cm above ground) and closer together (distance between inner edges of pedals is 15 cm) due to the thinner body. What I like most comparing to KS-16 is that you don’t need to use so much force to fold / unfold them so you can do so using your feet instead of bending down all the time to unfold them by hand. On KS-16 you can fold the pedal by foot but needs a bit of “kick” to close them. Pedals are higher above ground and are very slim in profile which allows for nice tight turns with risk of scraping ground. Range: At my limited time using the wheel I’ve managed to average about 32 Km from full charge to 10% battery level at already colder weather with some stronger wind and with load over 90 Kg. Speeds averaging above 20 Km/h, reaching regularly my comfort cruising speed of 25 – 26 Km/h. Mostly flat terrain on bicycle lanes without too aggressive accelerations or breaking. Comparing to KS-16 / 840Wh where I can reach comfortably 50 – 55 Km at the same conditions it’s indeed “downgrade” but at the cost of lighter, slimmer and better looking wheel. Replaceable battery advertised by IM as a way to extend its range is at its current implementation IMO the V8’s weakest link at the moment so unless IM will makes some major changes in the shell and battery fitting design please do not consider this as a viable regular option. I’ll return to this point later on in separate post once I’ll investigate further the current amount of screws to be removed to free up the battery as my previous rant on this issue might have been a bit off. Handle / Motor Cut-off button: Integrated motor cut-off button in the bottom part of the handle is a nice QOL feature but unfortunately not as well implemented as it might have been. The cut –off function could be turned off via app so if you don’t plan to use it or want / need to use safety / training belt attached to the handle you can switch it off. The button has also secondary function – to turn off and back on the side LEDs. As this function is not that clearly explained in the supplied manual here is how it works: with the wheel powered on hold the cut-off button and then long press the power button (the same press as if you’d turn on / off the head light) to switch the side LEDs off or on. The default settings is on and the wheel remembers the last setting after power off (unlike the head light which always turns off (similar way like KS-16 always defaults to “Auto” mode). You can also turn the side LEDs via mobile app but only using the main app, not via the notification bar quick access menu. The issue I have with the button itself is that it protrudes way to much out of the bottom part of the handle – even when fully depressed it’s still about 6 - 7 mm above (well below looking from the top) of the surface of the handle making it a bit uncomfortable to carry the wheel around or hold it for prolonged period of time. It also “wobbles” a bit making this feel even worse. It would be much better if the button will activate during firs few millimetres of depressing it but that it would actually completely flush with the handle’s surface when fully depressed. Otherwise the handle itself (ignoring the button annoyance) is large, firm and comfortable and comparing to KS-16 which uses “dual purpose” handle for both trolley handle and main handle (which can feel a bit flimsy at time and possess risk of trolley handle not fully locking in when collapsed) and it has also benefit of being able to be used as a locking point for the “bike lock” which I’d not recommend trying on KS-16 as you can simply extend the trolley handle and rip it off. Not that I’d ever leave any of my EUCs anywhere in public locked to anything else than very scary looking dog Battery Level indicator: The battery indicator is same as on V5F nice large “battery chunks” sections in nice blue colour when full with last two sections turning yellow and red when battery level drops. While it’s placed on the top section of the wheel in front of the power button and meant to be seen from wheel while riding it’s not as visible as it should be mainly during day time (even when overcast or in shadows) especially if you’re taller as first of all its hidden bellow the dark (smoked) translucent plastic shell (the same as on the side covers) and it’s tilted to the front due to the curve of the shell. During the past week (with not so much sunny weather) I’ve struggled to see the indicator at all during the ride. I’m not really sure how to improve this without affecting the slick curves of the wheel as the indicator would need to be either sticking out a bit from the front curve of the shell or be mounted more towards centre but then you’d need most likely to bend down to even see it . I’ve taped a small piece of plastic mirror (for a test) if front of the indicator and that helped a bit but of course it looks ugly. Stand: The “integrated stand” – which is simply a bit of strengthened lip added to each end of the shell at end of the “fender” is basically unusable. Unless the wheel stands on the perfectly flat and smooth surface the wheel will tip over at slightest sneeze or blow of wind. It’s basically usable only for a quick photo ops but I personally would not use it even at home to store the wheel as its dangerous leaving it like that. This is unfortunately common issue for the waste majority of the wheels out there as integrated “kick stands” are not really implemented well or at all (that includes probably the best attempt so far by Ninebot). Combining this with the fact that top of the shell has no soft / adhesive coating on the sides it’s practically impossible to lean the wheel against the wall or furniture without danger of it slipping off or even getting scratched. I remember @Jason McNeilmentioning something about IM including the attachable soft pads with production version of V8 but that this has not happened so far and only standard ankle pads (like with V5F) are included which are a bit hard to properly attach to the top shell “bulges”. Mobile app: While mobile app is at the “top of the pack” comparing to many other EUC mobile apps out there it still have some space for an improvement. The app is clearly professionally designed with simple minimalistic but pleasing UI. It is highly “social media” oriented with 3 out of 4 tabs being used for Sharing (of text, pictures or videos) and commenting or liking the shares, events, clubs, rankings and your profile with collecting points and coins. The community seems to be pretty live though predominantly Chinese as the app covers all current IM products (not only EUCs). The most “important” part for EUC / SCV (as IM call it) details and configuration is at the moment a bit “Spartan” with bare minimum of info provided. Current trip, week ranking, mileage, speed, board temperature (only for V8) and battery level in % is all you get. No average or maximum speeds, current, power or battery voltage as you might be used from KS-16 or other wheels. At the moment it’s unclear if any of those additional values are even provided by (or possible to request from) the wheel via BT LE communication protocol but @JumpMasteris currently researching this to see if IM protocol could be included in his fabulous WheelLog app. Apart of the main IM app there is also the notification bar applet included (indicated by small red i in left corner of the notification bar) which remains active even after closing / exiting the main app. After pulling down the notification bar on your phone it provides a quick access menu with option to connect to the wheel (either of the apps will currently not connect automatically to the wheel upon launch), switch on / off headlight, power off the wheel and display battery level status. The quick menu bar could be closed by tapping at the small cross at its right side. The one of the issue with the app design itself is that it’s using in some areas (like main SCV screen) very small font and even the icons for some functions so it’s pretty difficult to read / see even on large screen phones (it feels more like tablet app). Other obvious issue is the localization. Once again while it’s much better than many other (the “Chinglish” is really minimal here with only about two or three expressions / names translated a bit unusual or incorrect way) there are places still either missing completely or at least partially translations or using the Chinese instead. Finally the app is clearly targeted more as social app rather than EUC / Wheel companion app. While you can perform all necessary service and configuration tasks via SCV / Features option including FW update, diagnostic of the wheel and DIY LED light designing it lacks a bit at the main ride screen as already mentioned above. The app also always default to first “Social page” tab screen instead to more desirable SCV ride screen and will not connect automatically to the wheel so multiply button taps are required to get into “ride” mode. App will also not register the current trip distance if you’ll not connect to the wheel prior the ride. Hopefully most of this could be improved a bit with some push from / help of @Jason McNeil and other distributors and customers. I’ll discuss the DIY LED design feature in a separate post. Replaceable battery: This was one of the main advertised points of V8 but the final implementation of this feature is currently more than disappointing. I’ve already ranted about that here in this thread and I’ll return to this point a bit later once I’ll find another spare hour or so to waste with opening the side shell and removing the battery. I also might have spoken too soon in regards of the amount of the screw holding the battery itself in the shell (11 as per my previous count) as I’ve gave up halfway through removing those with battery being still attached and have realized only later on that some of the screws I’ve included in the count might be actually holding the batter casing itself together rather than fixing the whole battery pack to the shell so I’ll re-visit this point once I’ll build up enough “courage” to struggle with removing the outer shell again. Nevertheless even if the battery pack is being hold only by 3 or 4 screws its still 3 or 4 too many. Trolley handle: Trolley handle is a bit longer than on KS-16 and its separate from the main shell handle which I personally think is a better option / solution than combined handle as on KS-16. Fully extended the top of the handle is 89 cm above ground while KS-16 is only 83 cm. It’s a little bit wobbly and placed asymmetrically outside of the centre of the gravity / wheel unlike on KS-16 (but much better than for example MSuper V3). Unlike sturdiest KS-16 handle due it’s placement in parallel with the wheel rather than diagonally it’s suitable for both right and left-handed use though if you’ll push it with left hand with handle towards you it will be in “reverse” with headlight facing back so at dark you’ll lose the “torch” function. Tire / Fenders / Mudflap: The tire has been “upgraded” from V5F and pre-production models of V8’s from 1.95” to 2.125” Kenda tire with different (IMO better) thread and feels very comfortable at 3.2 bar. Factory recommended tire pressure is 2.8 bar and wheel arrived with only 2 bar so please check your pressure before riding. One small complain I have though is that tire is almost hitting the the enforced fender edges (“stands”) – there is barely 2 - 3 mm space between the tire and edge of the fender so if the tire picks up some larger pieces of dirt, stones, leaves and so on it makes a bit scary and unpleasant noises and can eventually cause the wheel / tire to get stuck or blocked resulting in faceplant. IM also departed from optional Mudguard mount like on V5F though with a bit of creativity this could be added via DIY. The mudguard is definitely needed as even at dry conditions the tire spits up a lot of dust which then lands on the whole back section of the wheel as well as your trousers and shoes. Head & Tails lights: Strangely enough IM departed from the fabulous Head / Tail / Brake lights set present at V5F models to only head light and tail “logo” without any break light implementation. As why this happened we can only speculate – maybe the tail / brake lights were clashing with the side Atmosphere LED lights – who knows. Either way for those of us who want or are required by law to have both lights or even have them on all the time it’s a bit of let-down. The tail logo can’t be under any circumstances considered as a tail light so you’d either need to fit a separate light or can try to use the Atmosphere side lights. I’ve manged to make the design which emulates front white and red tail light using the LEDs and it’s fairly visible even when looking at the wheel directly from the rear or front but indeed it’s not as bright during daylight. The headlight can be easily switched on or off either by long press of the power button while the wheel is turned on or via main as well as notification bar app. Unfortunately the last state is not saved and always default to off after powering the wheel but on other hand it’s much easier (and quieter) to switch it on than on KS-16. One quick tap on power button to switch on the wheel followed by long press to switch on the lights and you’re ready to glide under a second and half. No more hassle of fiddling with multiply button presses like on KS-16 and waking up half of your neighbourhood with loud “Hello Kingsong” shouts”. Luckily you can adjust sound volume on V8 via mobile app as well as replace each sound with your own (even “silence”). I'm yet to test the brightness of the light in the dark but it doesn't seem much stronger than KS-16 and it has vey short throw very close to the wheel so it's not really designed / useful for night riding at unlit areas without additional light mounted on the wheel. Atmosphere / Side LED lights: Atmosphere / Side LED lights are chapter on its own. Despite opposing this feature heavily when the V8 was first announced I’ve actually found it to be most fun. I’ve spent whole first night designing different patterns and staring mesmerised at the blinking wheel. I’ll prepare bigger write-up just about this feature alone in a day or two (hopefully as the weather is getting worse day by day so this will be only fun I’d most likely have with V8 anyway). Until then one word of warning – do not upload to many DIY designs to the wheel as it seems it has limited amount of memory to store the designs and currently it’s unclear how to remove those afterwards or reset the wheel! Additional features / functions: Unlike KS-16 the V8 doesn’t include Bluetooth speaker(s). The tail speaker is for the audible warnings only and it’s pretty loud even at default 50% of volume. It though doesn’t seem to be waterproofed as you can see the speaker membrane through the holes in the shell. Maybe some waterproof folia could be added to address this? Also the speaker volume is the same independent of the state or speed of the wheel. It would be a great QOL improvement if the wheel / app would have at least two volume setting – one for stationary wheel (like at home or in office) and one while moving. Currently I need to change the volume settings at least 4 times a day to not startle anyone at home or office while connecting to wheel but to be able at the same time to hear the warning while driving. Having an option of the dynamic volume increase based on speed would be even better. For each audible warning you can use one of the predefined or extra downloaded sounds and spoken voices, use your own audio files or record new including "silence" if you prefer to "mute" the specific warning. There is no USB or any other charging port available and it seems that reverse protection is present on the main charging port as well so that one can’t be used to provide external power either. Also there is no reset button like on V5F despite the same rubber cover being used for DC charging port. Power button: Power button function is the same as on V5F though it has been changed from touch button to actual physical short press momentarily switch under the rubber cover. The short press on the button turns the wheel on / off, long press turns on / off the headlight and long press while holding the motor cut-off button under the handle will turn off / on the side LED Atmosphere lights. While this seems to be a standard with IM wheels it seems a bit “illogical” to me as I’d say the more dangerous / important function of turning the whole wheel on / off should have been via long press (as on many other wheels including KS-16) and lights using the short tap only. While the current setup makes switching the wheel on / off really quick – almost instant comparing to other wheels – it feels also a bit unsafe as it’s much easier to switch the wheel on or off by accident by quickly brushing against the power button. It actually happened twice to me in past two day that I’ve unintentionally switched the wheel off while grabbing it during stepping off. Surely it’s less dangerous accidentally to turn off or on light than the whole wheel? Maybe IM could include this as a configurable option in the future FW update. Included accessories and documentation: In the box is included apart of the wheel itself (or a couple of bricks if you’re unlucky ) charger packaged in the separate cardboard box, AC cable, ankle pads, user manual (in acceptable English) and warranty card (in my case for some strange reason with cover in English but rest in Spanish). Wheel is shipped double-boxed. No training belt or training wheels are included. Charger port & Charger: Charger is standard “slow” 84C / 1.5A charger same as with V5F but unfortunately IM has departed again at last minute from their unique branded USB-like yellow rectangular DC charging socket and plug (apparently due to the issues during certification process) and made last moment change to “howerboard” like 3 pin charging socket and plug instead (looks like miniature version of GX-16 sockets and plugs used by most of the current EUCs). Apart of making the V8 chargers incompatible with any other current IM product including V5F it’s now a bit hassle to insert the DC plug into the charging socket as you need to rotate it around to find the correct orientation (and it really doesn’t help the moulded “handle” on the plug is not aligned with the wheel in any way when plug is inserted) and you also need to use both hands to remove the plug from the socket. Also it makes it difficult to use alternative / faster charger or for example Charge Doctor. I’ve already ordered several plugs and sockets and I’m awaiting the delivery as I currently feel a bit “blind” not being able to see how much power is exactly being pushed into the battery pack or not being able to use fast charge or early charge cut-off. Indeed the same issue would be present if the original IM DC plug has been used. Finishing / Quality of assembly (Stickers): As mentioned earlier the design, quality and built is superior to almost any other wheel currently on market though a little bit more attention might have been paid during the assembly process. In my case for example both the product sticker (in the gap on the side shell cover opposite the trolley handle) as well as the serial number sticker were “slapped” on the wheel without too much attention so the first one has bubbles which can’t be chased off and the second is a bit diagonally instead of parallel with the edge of the wheel plus its white sticker on the otherwise entirely black wheel. Both drive my OCD crazy … Surely it’s not that much to ask to spare extra 2 seconds and place both sticker on properly? Maybe use black sticker for the black wheel or at least hide the white sticker at some less exposed place like inside of the trolley handle gap? On another wheel freshly unpacked from the box there were a visible scratches at the motor casing near to the valve clearly caused by careless employee filling up the tire with the air. Side “cushions”: Side “cushions” (unlike on V5F) are only bulges in the side translucent smoked plastic covers without any soft or adhesive surface. The top edges are curved inwards so you’ll not experience any pain touching those with your legs / calves. IM supplies ankle pads (like on V5F) which some users applied to those top bulges but they don’t look so good there as they’re not design to be attached to such curved area. Overall: I’m happy with V8 despite several minor shortcomings here and there of which none has impact on the ride quality or safety (maybe apart of the fender edges being too close to tire) and most of them could be resolved on existing model by firmware and app update only. The most critical "issue" in regards of swappable battery would require shell redesign though if done properly (if at all) moving the innards of current wheel into the new shell should be possible if this particular point would be major issue for any of the current V8 owners I’m still novice at this wheel and need some more time to become more comfortable riding it without concentrating too much on the wheel movement. It took me over month to get comfortable on KS-16 so I’m not worried about such feelings only one week after starting with the wheel. At the time of posting I've been riding the V8 daily (weather and slow / long charging permitting) for past 7 days since it has arrived last Thursday from @Jason McNeil and have 180 Km under my heels so far ... If I’ve missed out any points you’ve wondered about please ask in the discussion below.
  18. 20 points
    Uuuuh, this is gone be a long one ... but since you asked ... lemme try try to shed some light on the extent of quality assurance (QA) we may realistically expect from our wheels. And why I am rather surprised, that 9 out of 10 eWheels seem to work flawlessly. Visiting the GotWay fab in May 2016, I was expecting something more than what I had seen on the usual pictures. You know, those 4 long work benches showing GW wheels in various stages of assembly. But: that's pretty much it! There's a small office area with people working on PCs, a couple of soldering places with little else but a soldering iron and some reels of cables and adaptors and some side rooms with loose piles of motors or cartons with supplies or finished products readied for shipment. And, at the time, a single prototype of the new MsuperV3 kept in the directors office. I have not seen any test bed (like for example the stationary test rig of electro-sport.de), no sophisticated measuring equipment (like an oscilloscope), no specialized assembly setups (other than electric hand tools), let alone any automated machinery, robots or the like. I have probably seen like 15 people working on site and was told the staffing goal for 2016 to be 30 employees. Also notably absent: Signs with working instructions, parts lists, check lists, tables with spec limits or the likes - very basic measures of QA I'm familiar with from "back home". "Here's a picture of what it should look like. If your work result looks different, we likely got a problem". Now, I may not have seen everything or was occupied by other things as I got all excited when I was allowed to test ride the MsuperV3 prototype in between the assembly lines. But recent events seem to confirm my observations at the GW "manufactory". Speedyfeet reported receiving an entire delivery of Msuper3's with left pedals being mounted to both sides of the wheels ("What's wrong with this picture?"). A friend just took delivery of a new Msuper V2 this month: Bluetooth didn't work. He found the little BT "piggyback" board thoroughly glued in place on the main board (as it should be), but its connector pins were in the wrong position (indicating 1. a design flaw as such connections should be coded, 2. sloppy assembly without control steps and 3. the absence of functional testing of the final product). Speculation time: what QA-risks are we exposed to: 1. Product design: Other than the famous pictures of the small indoor incline test ramp used by KingSong and IPS, I have not seen any special testing setups. With any new design, I have to assume, that some dare devil test rider takes a prototype to the streets and off-road tracks and maybe some puddles of water. If it survives the abuse those test riders can come up with, it's ready for production. While it is touching to see an asian tester taking another person on his shoulders to approximate the weight of a "westener" during a test ride, this is of course worlds apart from systematic and reproducible testing under all conceivable usage and environmental conditions. 2. Component/final assembly: there might be different "shades of grey" between manufacturers, but I would be very surprised to find automotive like standards with any present EUC producer. This is the area, where exceptional dealers like @Jason McNeil, @1RadWerkstatt, Speedyfeet and others can help with additional checks of the products they receive. But frankly, we can hardly expect them to perform full functional testing and still sell at affordable prices. The ones moving higher quantities may be able to persuade manufacturers into higher QA awareness and efforts. 3. "Supply Chain Management": there's something very unique and fascinating about Shenzhen: the "Huaqiangbei electronics mall". Picture many, many warehouses, each one the size of a larger Macys department store and each one specialized on electronic components. Like an entire Macys for LEDs. Or logic ICs. Or passive SMD components (resistors, capacitors, etc.). And each of these warehouses is composed of a myriad of tiny stalls, stuffed all the way to the ceiling with, say, SMD reels with diodes. That's a "Maker's dream"! Just like we hit a grocery market with the recipe for tonight's dinner, you can go to these warehouses with a parts list for your ewheel controller PCB and come back home with all the components you need to produce 500 of them (and still money left for groceries). And I'm sure, you'll find an infrastructure of services to produce your PCB and mount the items from your shopping bag to it just as easily. (If you are interested in these amazing capabilities, the flowing boundaries between "Makers" and commercial production and the fascinating spirit that goes with it, I can recommend spending an hour here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGJ5cZnoodY). To me, this convenient electronics market place is both a huge advantage for rapid product development and a dangerous burden for quality management of the production. Since you cited Toyota's quality as a reference point: I worked for many years in the semiconductor industry, producing components for automotive applications. Quite regularly, we have seen audit teams of the big car makers turning both the entire production line upside down and also scrutinizing the IT side of QA. Many QA improvements were introduced as a direct consequence of those audits. And when the chips are delivered to such clients, a matching huge compilation of data from measurements and testing is transferred in parallel to the client. And there have been a number of embarrassing moments, when clients analyzed those data sets and pointed out weak spots in our production line, we did not find ourselves. Just two basic examples: Look at these 2 result sets from temperature testing. Both are perfectly inside the specified limits, i.e. the chips passed the test. Which of the 2 would you expect to fail with just a bit higher or lower temperature than actually tested? Correct, the second one. It is still a sellable product, but you would not ship that one to your quality sensitive prime customer. Second example (so called "Part Average Testing" or PAT): Say, you produced 1000 chips and measured a specific parameter. Again, all those dots up there are well inside the spec limits, so all chips are "good". But it's easy to see, that 998 of the chips group nicely in the same area and just 2 stand out. Which would you expect likelier to fail? Even without any knowledge of what caused those 2 "outliers", they would never be shipped to an automotive customer for any safety critical application (the company I worked for used them for destructive testing to find the cause of the deviation, others just put them in different sales channels). Now take your guess, which category of components will end up in the bazaar like shops in the Shenzhen electronics market? Taking an analogy with 3D printers: Nowadays, you can buy a printer with good QA from upscale brands like Ultimaker, formlabs or Prusa and be fairly sure it works as advertised. Or you buy a "knock-off", built from those Shenzhen warehouse components with no Supply Chain Management and little QA for as little as 10% to 20% of the price. I was surprised to find some extra sensors, switches and even a spare mainboard thrown into the parts bag of kit printers I bought, obviously in expectation of a high component failure rate. Bottom line: Bashing GotWay for quality screw-ups is tempting, but I am rather surprised, how many good wheels they manage to ship out under these conditions. Only very few of us would be willing and able to foot the US$5000+ bill for an ACM built to automotive quality standards. While rightfully demanding QA improvements and honoring the efforts of responsible distributors for the good cause, we need to stay aware of the fact, that we are all potential crash test dummies riding prototype devices to some extent.
  19. 20 points
    My whole body is starting to stiffen up as I type this Unfortunately there's no video. I was cruising with my Monster to some good tunes on a very nice curvy sidewalk. Probably 15mph max - the tunes were definitely pumping up my speed There was an outside curve that had hedges pruned right up to the edge of the sidewalk. You know where this is going right Just as I was thinking my speed was a tiny bit too fast for the curve and the bushes seemed like they might juuuuust brush my feet - Bam! The left pedal caught, the wheel stopped, and I flew off the right side, twisting as I caught some air. Landed on my right and slid on the adjacent dirt/grass very hard. Kind of knocked the breath out of me and for a couple of seconds I thought that this might be the fall where I break something (something personal, like a bone). I lay there for 15 seconds and then slowly started moving, not wanting to injure something worse in case I was broken. After about 5 minutes of very slow movements I was able to climb back on the Monster (which seemed to be unscathed) and limp home. My right hip, groin, ribs, arm, and shoulder feel like they participated in a Monday Night football game, without my permission. The one positive take away is the reaffirmation to wear full protection when I'm going to be out riding fast. In this case I was wearing a long sleeve shirt, gloves, elbow and knee pads, and my helmet (which I wear even when I'm not going fast). Tomorrow is not going to be fun
  20. 20 points
    Just a short video of trying out some new trick filming ideas/techniques including: Using a motorised slider rail (horizontal & vertical). This works really well for filming tricks as the movement of the camera is more pleasing to watch than static "CCTV" footage. Filmed during a lunchtime session, the building in the background is the Shard. 3 meter selfie pole - when spinning around fast it generates loads of wind resistance and makes a crazy noise. I have also been trying some tricks in my Tron costume - I got buzzed by the met police helicopter last night which diverted its flight path to have a look :-)
  21. 19 points
    Hello All, I recently got the MSuper V3S + 1600 model. I figured I'll contribute to the forums and give a review on it along with a speed test speed up to 30MPH~!. Please enjoy! Thanks. Any question do not hesitate to let me know! As always keep it wheel!
  22. 19 points
    Look what the mailman brought us today. A brand new KS14S from KingSong, where the S stands for Sport. This is the latest Electric Unicycle from KingSong and I’m pretty excited as one of the first to review this unit. Let me know what you think about KS14S?
  23. 19 points
    Hello, I can't find the section presentation, sorry. Then I come here, I use Google translation I'm sorry, I don't control any English, I'm already struggling in French, laughing. Anyway, I'm a French Wheeler as @Hirsute. I'm Wheeler since June 2014. My name is Jean (Nhut) I am now a fan of's mode of transport. I like the Street and Freestyle. I also organizes a lot of output of electric mobility. Here's my YouTube channel. I hope you enjoy my videos, enjoy. And if you spend a day in France in the city of Nancy, you will be welcome to our outputs Wheelers. Good evening
  24. 19 points
    Hi guys, I wanted to share this recent adventure, and give you some advices so that the same thing won't happen to you... So I was riding alone, getting some fresh air as I always do during hot evenings, I had my gotway MCM4 that tops at 22km/h (this is important for after). After riding for about an hour in the forest, the dark was here, at about 10pm. I was heading back home on a bike lane, passing next to an inhabited complex for moderate revenues, when out of nowhere 6 youngsters came out and started yelling at me (can't remember exactly what), then started chasing me. I accelerated as fast as I could. I didn't even hear the final alarm but it must have been very brutal, because the EUC had no more power to keep me balanced and I fell off it, luckily I was able to run, the EUC rolled into a bush, and the 6 guys catched up with me. One of them threatened me with a knife, another had a cutter, they asked for my cellphone and money, I gave them what I had on me, but couldn't find my cellphone. The 6 guys where taller than me, and even though I had an electric shocker, I didn't use it because I was too afraid to get stabbed. They left very quickly, luckily they didn't take my EUC, after a while I headed back home, my legs where shaking from the stress, I have already had some agressions on my EUC but they never succeded until now. I filled up a complaint today at the police station, but without a good description (I wasn't able to remember the faces of my agressors because it was dark and I was under stress) they told me there almost no hope to find them. From now on, I won't go out at night with a slow and weak EUC, I think that if I had my ACM for example I would have gone away, I need to avoid some areas but I couldn't guess it would happen in this particular one, so I'll look out for groups of people. I highly recommend to ANYONE to be aware (in France at least) of these things happening. I'm glad they didn't take my EUC, I guess they thought it was broken..and it didn't sustain any major damage, I had some padding around it.
  25. 19 points
    Sorry to keep everyone waiting, I had a busy day yesterday. The votes have been tallied and the count has been double-checked by (at least) three moderators, myself included. The final three winners are: 1st: Hirsute2nd: Toby Stevens3rd: SideStreet Reny Congratulations to all the winners and warm thanks to everyone who contributed, either by making contest videos, voting and/or giving feedback on the contest! I take it that @Rehab1 & @Jason McNeil will now take over to manage the transportation/prize money transfers for the winners?
  26. 18 points
    The world needs a new hero to save us from those soon to be evil Boston Dynamics robots...
  27. 18 points
    About a year and a half ago I purchased an inspire from DJI which is the biggest drone manufacturer in the world so I decided to join the forum because the inspire is not a beginner drone, shortly after joining I noticed that people on there are mean, nasty and very very rude, it seems like you had to be an advance pilot to join the forum because the beginners got treated like S.H.I.T. Including me. Guys on there actually started threatening each other. It was not a good experience to visit at all. This forum is the total opposite you guys are very very nice and very helpful no matter how simple or dumb the question may be, I feel very comfortable asking anything on this forum, some guys even go above and beyond to help others make a purchase decision and always give their honest opinion, it's a joy to visit this forum and I have to admit some of you guys are pretty funny ?. In closing I just wanna say keep it up guys, really appreciate it ??
  28. 18 points
    Poor guy, I'm sending him out a set of replacement parts...
  29. 18 points
    You do owe them a conversation if you want to do your bit for EUC community relations. If the public see early adopters of this 'new' technology as being aloof, inconsiderate, or even outright rude, then it is so much easier for them to hate us, and it gives them ammunition they can later deploy at council meetings and the like... I am not even slightly a 'social' person, but I will always stop to talk to someone taking an interest in my wheels, and I do my very best to make them leave the conversation feeling like they've had a very polite and courteous (and in my case tediously technically information-rich) exchange with someone doing a new and exciting thing, and not only that, but doing it well, and with maximum consideration for pedestrians. I want people to think about me, and us, like that. Having been doing that for several years now, I have a whole town full of people that know me and my wheel, and wave and smile as I go past. All from a little bit of basic politeness... Of all the people I have ever stopped and talked to about EUCs over the years the feedback has been overwhelmingly positive, and those people leave that conversation very much on my side, and certainly not seeking to prevent me doing it more. This is especially important in places where the legality of the EUC is still questionable - we need the people on our side (or at least not actively against us) if this is ever going to be mainstream and legal like it should be... CBR
  30. 18 points
  31. 18 points
    Hello everybody, this is the submission of Chris West. He has technical problem to connect to the forum and to post his video. So i post his youtube link for him, to be sure that he can take part to the contest. As soon as the problem will be solved he will post himself his video and a moderator will be able to erase my post. Good for you? It's not perfectly regular, but: the contest first, technical problem after, don't you think?
  32. 17 points
    I'm going to collect my ongoing thoughts about this wheel on this page. I just finished my range test and feel that I can offer some solid opinions about this wheel. BTW, I'm somewhat of a Gotway fan (did I understate that ?), so bear that in mind. So here goes... I own a Monster, MSuper V3s+, ACM V2s, and KS14S, and have ridden just about every other mainstream wheel that has been produced in the last couple of years (group rides are great ). The Mten3 is the funnest wheel that I've ever ridden. Is it the fastest? No. Does it have the most range? No. But is it fun? My God is this a fun wheel During my range test I rode it mostly on paved trails and sidewalks, but did a fair amount of dirt trail riding and grass riding. When on the flats riding straight I was doing 15mph (24km/h). It was not struggling, but I did not feel comfortable going faster because the wheel is super-super-agile and therefore not very stable unless your road is perfect and there is no wind. My range test lasted 2 hours 15 minutes and covered 20-1/2 miles (33 kilometers). Tell me that is not a respectable distance to cover on such a tiny wheel. Over 2 hours is a lot of fun time. My riding weight is under 170 pounds (77kg). For 18 miles (29km) I could do anything. Then under strong acceleration I started getting the beeps. The last ~mile was limp mode - 7mph (11.2km/h) or less. Unlike KingSong, Gotway lets you really have fun all the way to 15% battery (this is my only KingSong dig - sorry guys ). The wheel feels very solid when accelerating, and stops on a dime from high speed. At all times it felt that there was extra power in the tank. It really is like an ACM bottled up in a tiny package. When going up hills it has power, power, and power. With this Mten3 I finally feel like my feet are one with a wheel. It's OK when traveling at 15mph (24km/h), but is amazing below 10mph (16km/h). It feels like you are standing on a little ball that glides effortlessly wherever you think you want to go. Let me give you an example. When you're on a sidewalk and have to stop for traffic and wait until you get the walk signal, that's not the funnest of times is it? Either you're off the wheel or holding on to a post. Well not with this wheel. I actually found myself looking forward to getting a red light. I am not exaggerating! I can effortlessly do little 360 turns in the space of my body (I'll post some more video on this page later), and it's fun. If you can ride backward, this wheel is killer. I can do tiny pendulums all day long. So this wheel strangely is funnest when you're waiting. I'm doing tons of little 360's, pendulums, etc. The last couple of busy intersections that I crossed, I actually did a couple of mid-intersection 360's to give the people waiting a little show Effortless and very fun. I'm telling you guys, this wheel is no joke. You owe yourself to get one. I truly do not believe you would regret it. It would bring utter joy to your riding about town. And again, 18 miles (29km) of solid fun is very respectable. I'll post additional info on other features on an ongoing basis. I'm off for some night riding as soon as the wheel is recharged
  33. 17 points
    Hi, everyone, Rockwheel has been created for the fifth year, and it is honored that it has not yet closed, after all it is not a profitable industry, in 2012 I had the first Solowheel wheelbarrow after the start of 2013, I gave up The original business, all devoted to the start of the operation of Rockwheel, because I love, my first wheelbarrow is gear motor drive, because I like it to accelerate the sound of metal roar, so I named Rockwheel. Natural air-cooled system, we tested 30 minutes of continuous climbing, the controller temperature of 58 degrees Celsius,
  34. 17 points
    As a fervent fan of your products I implore you to consider adding one or more of these improvements to your future wheels: Replace the single tone beeper with a proper speaker and vary the loudness of the beeps based on the speed of the wheel. When we ride your wheels fast (like your wheels are meant to be ridden) we often cannot hear the warning beeps because of the wind noise in our ears. Provide a means to turn off the beeper. Sometimes we can ride very far on a low battery and we are forced to hear the constant beeping even though we are traveling at 5 mph. This annoys us and it annoys the people that we ride by. Provide additional hardness settings. Some people think your Sport mode is still too soft. Why not please everyone? Replace the single brightness LED with a multi-level LED, just like the cheap pocket flashlights that everyone owns. The brightest level should be much brighter than your current LED lights, which are just about useless for riding at night. And please keep the flash mode, it's a great safety feature for daylight riding. Provide a battery indicator that can be seen by the user when looking down at the wheel. The best EUCs in the world (MSuper, ACM, and Monster) require the user to step off the wheel to see what their battery level is. In a perfect world it would be a multi-digit LED display that would show the battery percentage. Provide a fast charger for your high capacity wheels (e.g., 1300wh and above). We don't like having to wait 10 to 20 hours to charge one of your fantastic wheels Change the design of your wheel shells so that the screws don't snap in half after a bad fall. Your wheels have a great reputation for performance and desirability, but they also have a bad reputation for cheap screws that snap in half too easily. Your competition doesn't have this problem, so show them that you can make the best shells available. Your wheels are so powerful that we love to push them to extremes. Show the world that you can make a shell that is tough and can take the abuse. Many people like the option of wider tires, and have even gone to the extreme of cutting your beautiful shells to accommodate a wider tire. Why not design for wider tires and provide that as an option. Trolley handles are so useful, and you demonstrated how nice they can be with your super popular MSuper V3. Why not make them standard in all of your future wheels. People would love you for it. You may be the first manufacturer to standardize on one size pedal brackets. Now provide a range of pedal options that can be interchanged between all of your wheels. Some of us have small feet and some have large feet. People love having options to pick from. A built-in kick-stand would be extremely useful, and you would leapfrog all of your weak competition forever if you were the first to add one. Add a cutoff switch to the bottom of your handles. It's such a nice feature to have when having to lift a wheel over an obstacle Add bluetooth speakers, but please don't use them yourself to make announcements to the user. When appropriate (Monster, MSuper, etc) add a mudguard. Maybe even a removable one. Surely you've seen the 3D printed mud guards that people have been making themselves for the MSuper? So many people have difficulty with your newer phone apps. Many of us don't like to depend on having an Internet connection to use the app when riding or configuring our wheels. Your wheels are the best for riding in remote areas where sadly there is no Internet. Please keep the ever useful USB port - such a great feature of your wheels Instead of the dozen or more diagnostic beep codes that nobody understands or even knows about, how about providing this diagnostic information to the phone app, or a voice prompt using your new bluetooth speakers. I don't know if you will ever see this letter. I'm your biggest fan and want you to succeed and destroy all of your meager competition. Maybe some of my suggestions can help you stay the number one EUC manufacturer in the world. I'm rooting for you
  35. 17 points
    Surprise update, May 19th: Gotway now uses stronger wiring for the motor cables going from the motor to the connectors. They have been convinced by a dealer. Not sure how much it has to do with this So the problem is extremely unlikely to appear again and can be considered solved. June 23rd: it is a general problem that the wheels can produce higher currents than the cables can take, so melting is inevitable under the right circumstances. See this thread for a more up-to-date discussion (the exact same happened to this guy and me): -- Final update, April 27th: wheel is working again, Ian/Speedyfeet did a great job (and Gotway wasn't bad either)! A bit more results, top of page 16. Don't be afraid to use ACMs/Gotways on steep hills, just don't overdo it and be aware of the limitations of what you can expect your wheel to do (that applies to all wheels, no matter the manufacturer). -- Update #2, April 5th: this issue was a combination of lack of proper cabling (messy cable management + Gotway forgot to put heat sleeves around the various cables, though it is questionable how much that would have changed) and very high, continuous stress on the wheel, which led to the motor cables melting and shorting each other. So don't worry too much about the ACMs or Gotway wheels' safety, this event was more due to an outlier situation (though it does seem some components are too weak in general, and the improvements Gotway did won't fix that, the motor cables melting could happen again - see @Xima Lhotz's pictures page 15) - at least statistically, Gotway wheels are still good (if you're not doing constant steeper inclines). --> If you are concerned, open your side panel and see if the cabling looks good and has heat sleeves. That's the best you can do. Photos how it should look are at the top of page 15. <-- Just be aware under continuous heavy load conditions, the wheels (any manufacturers really, but KingSong for example would probably be a bit more trustworthy) might cut out on you, without giving you a warning beforehand (which is the scary part). Everything is not finished yet, but Ian is in contact with Gotway and this will be fixed one way or another. So far, good customer service from both. More updates when they arrive. -- Update: this issue is not related to the motor connectors at all. I initially believed it to be the connectors because they are a known issue, and the wheel shut off without any warning (like high temperature warning) and failing connectors would do that. What really happened is the motor cables themselves melted together and shorted. Pictures see page 5. Investigation on further details is ongoing -- Another day (or rather night), another Gotway incident... WARNING to everyone with a Gotway wheel, ACM, msuper V3, monster, does not matter (I think it's ok to post this in General so everybody sees it). -- So I just did a night mountain ride and my 84V 1300Wh Gotway ACM died on me with no warning. What happened: I went up a fairly steep mountain (but not extreme, really, an estimated max 20% [update: in hindsight, 15% is probably closer] incline maybe, but constant). It was mostly a hard dirt path, 80kg rider, 60% battery. I went fairly slow and the wheel semed far from its limits (easy acceleration, no warning beeps,...) After no more than 10 minutes, my ACM went dead mid-ride and I hit the ground (thankfully I wasn't going fast). It simply stopped working, tilted right forward and that was it. On inspection, there was a burnt stuff smell coming from the wheel (you can still smell it). Pushing the power button, the wheel beeps regularly and the 5 back LEDs all flash red. Even when the wheel is off, it is quite hard hard to turn the tire. The light is working normally (you can switch it to on/off/blinking as usual). Looks like this might be the well-known motor wires connector issue, but this time it's an ACM, not an msuper V3. Afaik this is the first reported such incident with an ACM. So be careful, all GW models can be affected (assuming it's no other issue). If you have a GW wheel manufactured before March (roughly), you have a problem. I have not yet opened the wheel for warranty reasons, will have to ask Ian (speedyfeet) what to do first. Quite bummed, I have a dead wheel, scraped knee and my left hand's palm is bruised. This could easily have been worse had I gone faster or been less lucky. What you can learn: if you have a GW wheel, don't ignore or wait on definitely fixing the motor connector issue (I'm pretty sure that's the reason) if you might be affected. @Marty Backe siliconed the connectors preemptively, I'm not sure if that's enough (*hint*). Completely new, safe connections are probably best. I was aware of what might happen but pushed on, and now I have the mess. Bad decision. Do not think "everything will be fine" just because it was until now, there are no warning signs before a cutout. hard gloves/wristguards are your friends. #1 safety clothing! there's literally no reason not to wear knee guards. Like your hands (palm/wrist), your knees are what realistically hits the ground in most crashes. be careful with higher and constant inclines. I did a 1.5 hour mountain night ride before which wasn't constantly this steep, and everything went perfect and it was quite spookily pleasant In hindsight, no idea how close to disaster I've been Also: F**k Gotway. The wheels are really nicely engineered, but the manufacturing sucks. Well, at least they say they fixed the issue (if it's the motor connectors). The best way to carry a 20kg disabled/non-turning wheel is to carry it on your (hunched) back, arms forward and folded around your head, holding the handle behind your neck, like a modern day millstone of (Gotway) shame. Maybe you get the picture It's better than the "like holding a baby" alternative, your arms will die soon. -- I'l sleep on it, possibly burn a GW effigy, and tell you more once I can look at the insides of the ACM. Looking forward to what your interpretation of the events is. Looks like the motor connector issue to me (or maybe it's a new, exciting Gotway quirk?), but I don't know for sure.
  36. 17 points
    I'm just recovering from a major fall. I broke my leg and ankle in three places, tore all my ligaments off my foot, going down a somewhat steep hill in SF. I am 240 lbs/ 105kg and I assume the thing couldn't handle me. I was on a GW V3 and my motor just cut out and there goes my leg.. I was not going fast a steady 6mph breaking on a maybe 10-12 degree slope when all of the sudden it cut out and yeah.. I found out that there are not only limits to how fast but also on how much breaking or voltage or whatever you can draw from those machines. I highly recommend wearing boots, motorcycle or very solid ankle protecting boots like the once worn by EMS personal to avoid having to deal with the ligament damage not to mention fractures.. Will I ride again? Probably but avoid those hills
  37. 17 points
    Look what the cat dragged in Well, back to work...
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    Since i did not find the original thread ( imho the posts were just "hidden" in some other thread..?) from the first dynamometer results published at http://electrotransport.ru/ (linked here by @Raptor) here a new thread with some new results: http://electrotransport.ru/ussr/index.php?msg=973382 The full tests including description of the measurements are published at http://airwheel.ru/test-monokoles-na-dinostende/ (also with a comment that the dynamometer is made for motorcycles with much more HP and so the results are not really exact absolute numbers but a nice comparison between the different wheels)! Also i did not see a comment about the "measurement probs" he mentioned in his first test: He could not start the dynamometer with full power from the wheels, because some fuses burnt... So he had to accelerate it "slowly" up to ~10-15km/h before he could apply full thrust. So some/most of the charts show some quite low powers for low speeds. Mabye he found a way to overcome this prob or it is still seen (imho in the charts for the high power 18 inch wheels?) Some interesting first points: - the IPS Zero shows some strange behaviour: The power output halves for speeds about 16 km/h! Also with a max power of 1.1kW it is one of the weakest of the tested models... - bigger batteries (capacity) give more power! ( how to translate "Na no na ned" to english? ) - nicely to be seen in the comparison between the KS16 340Wh and 840Wh model. - The MSuper V3 1600Wh 84V started a new era: it shows a max power of 4.7kW! - a nice statement regarding Airwheel (not included in the summary charts): "Test shatters all hope that this device can drive" -Test of ACM with custom LiFePo4 batteries: ~30% power increase! - Test of Inmotion V8 with Samsung INR18650-30Q 3000mAh cells: ~20% power increase, but the internal fuse was not able to withstand the increased current... It would be great to see the results from @EUC Extreme's custom Gotway in comparison to a standard factory version! A Quick overview of the results (links to the pics of his homepage): 14 inch wheels: 14 inch with more "power": 16 inch wheels: 18 inch wheels:
  40. 17 points
    Youtube is giving me trouble!! Video is loading as I write!! I'm gonna be a couple minutes late. UPDATE: I don't know if everyone is cool with it but it looks like it's gonna be 40 minutes before the link is ready. I did post my excuse before 12:00 though HERE WE GO!
  41. 17 points
    Hello my name is Tobias Olsen, I'm from Denmark and this is my submission for the 1st EUC talent contest. I hope you like it, this is my first video on this forum. Submitted 29/09/2016 - 19.46 Danish timezone
  42. 16 points
    @Hunka Hunka Burning Love I've quit until I moved into a new neighborhood, it is now done ! So I ride my EUC again, even though I'm a little nervous now when riding solo, and I got rid of my "slow" EUC, not because I like riding fast, but because I want to be able to escape if needed (28kph is a minimum, because most "normal" humans can't run that fast or not for long). I think that some events can take away the fun of EUC, but it is still an useful way of shifiting around in a city. I only know about one rider who stopped riding EUC, and moved on to electric scooters, he just felt like he couldn't go fast enough with his EUC (a V8), he was scared of fast EUC (in case of a failure) and wanted more power and speed, he is also a motorcycle enthousiast this may have influenced him. I think most people who get to know how to ride an EUC don't quit, even I who had the most trouble riding EUC in my city (that I know of) don't give up
  43. 16 points
    Was leisurely riding the bike trails this morning when a cyclist passes by me. I got to use my snappy comeback when he gave me some sass CYCLIST: You're not going to get any exercise on that thing. ME: I go to the gym for exercise. I do this for fun! CYCLIST: ... CYCLIST: Well, uh, go have fun somewhere else! A bit later, I passed him while going up a long incline and said "How's that exercise?" and then zoomed off. Hah!
  44. 16 points
    I've purchased 4 wheels from Jason at ewheels and I have experienced nothing but outstanding service. He has gone way over and beyond to make me happy as a customer. I hate reading comments trying to tear down his character saying he is just selling Gotways or any wheel for the money. If you read the many posts from him on this forum you will find that he has been an advocate for EUC riders and has pressed companies like Kingsong and Inmotion to make changes for the safety of the riders. Many of the safety characteristics raved about in Kingsongs was from Jason's constant input over the last couple of years. I'm glad to see ewheels selling Gotways now so maybe we can see the benefits of his tireless efforts in improving the QC at this company as well. We all love riding wheels and we all want to be safe of course. Let's keep our focus and efforts on pushing these companies to make the right improvements.
  45. 16 points
    I had a Monster Energy drink this morning & so embarked on the ambitious project of completing the 'Choosing the Right Battery Pack' Blog article. Euphoria has since worn off, will adding additional text tomorrow... https://www.ewheels.com/choosing-an-electric-unicycle-with-the-right-battery-pack-for-you/ There are now dozens of different battery cells being made by the big manufacturers LG, Samsung, Panasonic, & Sony. For use in an application like an Electric Unicycle, the two qualities that make a particular cell more suitable over another are it's power output (Amps) & energy density (Ah). Until fairly recently there was an inevitable trade-off between either high-powered cells (e.g. Sony VC3/A123) and energy dense cells—there's the example of the Panasonic NCR18650B, which had capacity, but could only deliver 2-3 sustained Amps. What has been one of the key drivers in powering the Personal Electric Vehicle revolution, is the introduction of >3Ah (>10Wh) batteries which can ALSO capable of sustaining high currents above 10 Amps. The Battery cells which are most commonly found in Electric Unicycles are shown above. Although lacking in capacity & somewhat outdated, the Samsung 22Ps are still quite common for many Self-Balancing devices because the cost per cell is very low. Ideally, a smaller battery pack (<32 cells) would have more powerful cells, like the HG2 (found in our small 12" IPS a130s) or the VC3 (used in the Solowheel) to provide the necessary sustained power even, if the speeds are modest. Because the cells are nearly all capable of the same 10A power output, the calculation then becomes one of how many battery cells you need for your requirements of speed & Rider weight—hill climbing expectations are also important factor for power, but to keep it simple, it's has not been shown here. These figures are probably on the conservative side, but for a device where getting enough power is the vital for survival, erring on the side caution is preferable. This next illustration shows how the battery cells are configured, their capacity & power outputs in several popular Electric Unicycles. There are two defacto standardized voltages for most Wheels: 67.2v, which is comprised of 16 cells in a series & 84.2v, with 20 cells in series. Good arguments exist for both voltages, but for higher performance Wheels, the increasing trend is converging towards the higher 84.2 voltage. This is mainly on account that motors of higher voltages are capable of higher speeds with better brown-out safety margins.
  46. 16 points
    Hi Everyone! As the proud new owner of an 820Wh MSuper V3 (Purchased from www.Tec-Toyz.com), I wanted to start a thread dedicated to Mods to the V3. Please add anything you've done and I'll do the same as I go along. I'll start off with my Carbon Fiber Side Panels. I'll also be wrapping around the headlight and switches too, but I won't have time till after this weekend. Planned Mods: Carbon Fiber Touches (Covering the Red Areas) - Decided to Paint Flat Black. Much Better! Thinning of the Side Pads. Maybe about 1/4" thinner on each side. - (After Riding More, Decided NOT to do this) Brighter Headlight - Done Mud Flap - Done Maybe some Special Effect LED's ?? Parking Stand while stopped for Coffee, etc. - Updated Bumpers! Works great now! Change Pedal Positions for More Support - Done! EL Lighting - Done! More Secretive Ideas still coming... Stay Tuned!!!! Carbon Fiber Vinyl to replace the Blueish pads. LED Headlight Upgrade: Mud Flap: Parking Stand (Updated!): https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DPH8VM4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Added Electric Blue Pinstripe:
  47. 16 points
    Ride responsibly and Wear suitable protective gear! = Safe Speed = 70kg rider >40% charge. Heavier rider or lower battery? Ride slower! 21 km/h - Ninebot One S2 (310Wh) 21 km/h - Ninebot One E+ (320Wh) 22 km/h - Gotway MCM4 (340Wh) 22 km/h - Kingsong KS14C (340Wh) 22 km/h - Kingsong KS14D (420Wh) 22 km/h - IPS 141 Zero (340Wh) 22 km/h - IPS 191 Lhotz (340Wh) 23 km/h - Inmotion V5F, V5F+ (320Wh, 480Wh) 25 km/h - Inmotion V8 (480Wh) 28 km/h - Gotway MCM4 (680Wh) 28 km/h - Kingsong KS14C (680Wh) 28 km/h - Kingsong KS16B (680/840Wh) 32 km/h - Kingsong KS16S (820Wh) 32 km/h - Kingsong KS18A-1200W (840Wh) 32 km/h - Gotway ACM (680/820Wh) 32 km/h - Gotway Msuper v3 (680/820Wh) 32 km/h - Rockwheel GT16 (680Wh) 35 km/h - Kingsong KS18A-1200W (1680Wh) 35 km/h - Rockwheel GT16 (858Wh) 40 km/h - Gotway ACM (1300/1600Wh) 40 km/h - Gotway Msuper v3s, v3s+ (1300Wh, 1600Wh) 40 km/h - Gotway Monster (2400Wh) 45 km/h - Kingsong KS18A-2000W (1680Wh) = Real Range = 20-25 km/h urban commuting, 70kg rider, not aggressive riding, not offroad, above 15°C ambient temperature, not hilly, not windy, new good condition batteries (5km rounded). 20 km - Ninebot One S2 (310Wh) 20 km - Ninebot One E+ (320Wh) 20 km - Gotway MCM4 (340Wh) 20 km - Kingsong KS14C (340Wh) 20 km - IPS 141 Zero (340Wh) 20 km - IPS 191 Lhotz (340Wh) 20 km - Inmotion V5F (320Wh) 25 km - Kingsong KS14D (420Wh) 30 km - Inmotion V5F+ (480Wh) 30 km - Inmotion V8 (480Wh) 40 km - Gotway MCM4 (680Wh) 40 km - Kingsong KS14C (680Wh) 40 km - Kingsong KS16B (680Wh) 40 km - Gotway ACM (680Wh) 40 km - Rockwheel GT16 (680Wh) 40 km - Gotway Msuper v3 (680Wh) 50 km - Kingsong KS16B (840Wh) 50 km - Kingsong KS16S (820Wh) 50 km - Gotway ACM (820Wh) 50 km - Kingsong KS18A-1200W (840Wh) 50 km - Gotway Msuper v3 (820Wh) 55 km - Rockwheel GT16 (858Wh) 80 km - Gotway ACM (1300Wh) 80 km - Gotway Msuper v3s (1300Wh) 100 km - Gotway ACM (1600Wh) 100 km - Gotway Msuper v3s+ (1600Wh) 105 km - Kingsong KS18A-1200W, KS18A-2000W (1680Wh) 150 km - Gotway Monster (2400Wh) * Real Range calculation: Capacity Wh / 16 = km Inmotion V8 example: 480Wh / 16 = 30km * Peak power calculation: Fully charged, new good condition batteries (100W rounded). battery pack voltage (serial) * number of packs (parallell) * nominal discharge rate * 95% switching efficiency Rockwheel GT16 (858Wh) example: 84V * 4packs * 10A * 0.95 = 3192W The standard battery cells used in EUCs have 10 Ampere nominal discharge rate. Dynanometer tests have shown the batteries have not delivered any more in practice so 10A was used for all calculations. 15-cell pack = 63V * 10A = 630W 16-cell pack = 67.2V * 10A = 672W 20-cell pack = 84V * 10A = 840W 95% efficiency (5% waste heat) * Safe Speed calculation: Ninebot One S2 (310Wh): 500W nominal, 1200W peak √ 500W = 22 km/h 22 km/h ^ 2 * 2.5 = 1210W Unsafe! 21 km/h ^ 2 * 2.5 = 1103W OK. Ninebot One E+ (320Wh): 500W nominal, 1200W peak √ 500W = 22 km/h 22 km/h ^ 2 * 2.5 = 1210W Unsafe! 21 km/h ^ 2 * 2.5 = 1103W OK. Gotway MCM4 (340Wh): 800W nominal, 1300W peak √ 800W = 28 km/h 28 km/h ^ 2 * 2.5 = 1960W Unsafe! 22 km/h ^ 2 * 2.5 = 1210W OK. Kingsong KS14C (340Wh): 800W nominal, 1300W peak √ 800W = 28 km/h 28 km/h ^ 2 * 2.5 = 1960W Unsafe! 22 km/h ^ 2 * 2.5 = 1210W OK. Kingsong KS14D (420Wh): 800W nominal, 1300W peak √ 800W = 28 km/h 28 km/h ^ 2 * 2.5 = 1960W Unsafe! 22 km/h ^ 2 * 2.5 = 1210W OK. IPS 141 Zero (340Wh): 1000W nominal, 1300W peak √ 1000W = 32 km/h 32 km/h ^ 2 * 2.5 = 2560W Unsafe! 22 km/h ^ 2 * 2.5 = 1210W OK. IPS 191 Lhotz (340Wh): 1000W nominal, 1300W peak √ 1000W = 32 km/h 32 km/h ^ 2 * 2.5 = 2560W Unsafe! 22 km/h ^ 2 * 2.5 = 1210W OK. Inmotion V5F, V5F+ (320Wh, 480Wh) : 550W nominal, 1600W peak √ 550W = 23 km/h 23 km/h ^ 2 * 2.5 = 1323W OK. Inmotion V8 (480Wh): 800W nominal, 1600W peak √ 800W = 28 km/h 28 km/h ^ 2 * 2.5 = 1960W Unsafe! 25 km/h ^ 2 * 2.5 = 1563W OK. Gotway MCM4 (680Wh): 800W nominal, 2600W peak √ 800W = 28 km/h 28 km/h ^ 2 * 2.5 = 1960W OK. Kingsong KS14C (680Wh): 800W nominal, 2600W peak √ 800W = 28 km/h 28 km/h ^ 2 * 2.5 = 1960W OK. Kingsong KS16B (840Wh): 800W nominal, 2600W peak √ 800W = 28 km/h 28 km/h ^ 2 * 2.5 = 1960W OK. Kingsong KS16S (820Wh): 1200W nominal, 2600W peak √ 1200W = 35 km/h 35 km/h ^ 2 * 2.5 = 3063W Unsafe! 32 km/h ^ 2 * 2.5 = 2560W OK. Kingsong KS18A-1200W (840Wh): 1200W nominal, 2600W peak √ 1200W = 35 km/h 35 km/h ^ 2 * 2.5 = 3063W Unsafe! 32 km/h ^ 2 * 2.5 = 2560W OK. Gotway ACM (680/820Wh): 1500W nominal, 2600W peak √ 1500W = 39 km/h 39 km/h ^ 2 * 2.5 = 3803W Unsafe! 32 km/h ^ 2 * 2.5 = 2560W OK. Gotway Msuper v3 (680/820Wh): 1500W nominal, 2600W peak √ 1500W = 39 km/h 39 km/h ^ 2 * 2.5 = 3803W Unsafe! 32 km/h ^ 2 * 2.5 = 2560W OK. Rockwheel GT16 (680Wh): 2000W nominal, 2600W peak √ 2000W = 45 km/h 45 km/h ^ 2 * 2.5 = 5063W Unsafe! 32 km/h ^ 2 * 2.5 = 2560W OK. Kingsong KS18A-1200W (1680Wh): 1200W nominal, 5100W peak √ 1200W = 35 km/h 35 km/h ^ 2 * 2.5 = 3063W OK. Rockwheel GT16 (858Wh): 2000W nominal, 3200W peak √ 2000W = 45 km/h 45 km/h ^ 2 * 2.5 = 5063W Unsafe! 35 km/h ^ 2 * 2.5 = 3063W OK. Gotway ACM (1300/1600Wh): 1600W nominal, 4800W peak √ 1600W = 40 km/h 40 km/h ^ 2 * 2.5 = 4000W OK. Gotway Msuper v3s, v3s+ (1300Wh, 1600Wh): 1600W nominal, 4800W peak √ 1600W = 40 km/h 40 km/h ^ 2 * 2.5 = 4000W OK. Gotway Monster (2400Wh): 1600W nominal, 8000W peak √ 1600W = 40 km/h 40 km/h ^ 2 * 2.5 = 4000W OK. Kingsong KS18A-2000W (1680Wh): 2000W nominal, 5100W peak √ 2000W = 45 km/h 45 km/h ^ 2 * 2.5 = 5063W OK.
  48. 16 points
    I sent Lewis a V8 to try out, (he has 7.1m Subscribers!) gets a decent airing, especially at the end....
  49. 16 points
    After seeing one of Alex's videos, Lee Jeans invited him to New York to do a shoot with an Electric Unicycle—believe this was aired in Asia on broadcast television... My minor part, was that I sent the King Song Wheel featured in the video.
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