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No sweat. There is a compromise on both ends when comparing both KS16 & V8, but it will depend on you which compromise is more satisfying for you.
Case in point: we have a lot of Ninebot One E+ riders in NYC, and while I personally can't understand how they can stomach the limited range and speed, I believe it is the design and the wow factor of their Ninebots that leads to them being satisfied with their wheels and willing to compromise with these limitations.
that all makes sense to me, as well
i love the idea of the Inmotion being more "put together" than the KS-16 but it's hard to ignore that range
i wish i could just stand on both... which is never possible. they are such different shapes
tall and thin or short and a bit wider. of course, i'd adapt to either, i'm sure
just thinking out loud...
at almost 54 i don't suppose i'd be able to walk too well after sleeping in the jeep...
i appreciate all of your thoughts, very much
Greg, i wouldnt buy both simply because you can always buy a 2nd one. For your sake, buy one at a time.
If you dont care about having speakers embedded in the wheel, the decision should be quite simple and basically depend on one parameter only - range. Rule of thumb is - get the wheel that will let you ride twice the range you think you need. If Inmotion satisfies this criteria : get inmotion. If it doesnt, get Ks16.
Like @houseofjob correctly said above, you need to have at least one long range wheel. So buy the one that satisfies the range as your first, and thendecide if you want to buy the other one too.
Unless you are set on sleeping in your jeep outside, then just get both.
that all makes sense to me
the best comment you made above, which resonates loudly with me: "And personally, owning multiple wheels, I wouldn't want all my wheels to be spec'd for the same purpose."
that is exactly right... i rode motorcycles for almost 40 years and never had less than 2 in the garage at any one time... so, i know exactly what you mean about that
perhaps the V8 is the best for me now and if i do start riding longer distances i'll get the KS-16 or equivalent then
again, thanks for the advice. i really appreciate it
If this is your 1st wheel, or you don't have a long distance driver, that's tough = (
Like I said before, can't emphasize enough how essential it is to actually get some test drive miles on the InMotion wheels. Once you do, you might start re-negotiating with yourself whether or not you can compromise battery size / range!
love this added info about the V8
i so appreciate you taking the time to tell us these thoughts
i must decide between this V8 and the KS-16 by tomorrow.... i must
or buy both.... and be banished to sleep outside in my jeep
Just got my V8 and did a quick test (joy) ride.
As the V5F+ has been my main driver for a few months now, some initial thoughts/comparisons:
Like others have stated, the V8 drives just like the V5F+, handling and all (obviously faster). In general, if you blindfolded me, it would be hard to differentiate which is which.
After firmware update, the V8 has more of the rocking when switching direction / leaning that my out-of-the-box stock firmware V5F+ used to have, FWIW
Hardness between the 2 is exactly the same
Flat land acceleration is, again, the same. (Haven't tried uphill yet to fully feel the 800 watts)
As others have stated, the plastic protrusions up top are not as uncomfortable as I presumed, so I will not be sticking anything there.
The short press On for the V8 is really confusing after coming from a long press On for the V5F+ *smh*. @HEC had me worried about accidental power off while riding, but I will confirm that the V8, while in motion, will not shut off with short power button press.
While I still prefer the V5's trolley solution, I can confirm that it is possible to wheel the V8 powered Off via the pull-out trolley handle (albeit with a tad less control than the V5 solution), and that's good enough for me!
I have a minor gripe about the 16" Kenda tire they use now on the V8. The V5F+'s Chao Yang / Hang Zhou Rubber Factory tire feels much more solid and impervious to bumps and jumping up/down curbs (I feel no bounce back riding the V5). The V8 with the Kenda however feels noticeably more airy and has a slight bounce when bumped. @Jason McNeil is there any way to procure the old Chao Yang / Hang Zhou tire in a size 16" x 2.125"? I way preferred that more solid block of rubber -type feel.
Also, as the V8 lacks the back brake lights and front blue visibility lights, plugging the V8 in for charging is less of a light show, as now only the battery meter lights up.
Will post more observations (if I have) as I ride more.
I've been wearing a Fitbit Charge HR lately. It has a heart rate monitor. On average the exercise sessions taken while EUC riding gives a HR in the 90's. The HR graphs have a great deal of variation (up&down). Faster rides (10 - 12 mph) on variable (not straight path) paths (turning, sidewalk ramps, gravel paths) maybe tend to give a higher HR. My resting HR during the day is in the 70s and sleeping HR is in the 60s.